The Beast Within -- A Guide To Blue Mage

Charged Whisker and Thermal Pulse are still strong, but they're also very expensive as opposed to just spamming Subduction. I still use them in the only 2 places I BLU cleave (Einherjar/Nyzul Isle) since there's usually mobs to Magic Hammer on anyway.

Fair enough. Ya that spell is pretty amazing for what it does and the mp/recast. I think I'll spend tomorrow toying with some of the other spells and seeing whats up with them too. Sure wish we could get a form of Refresh II tho ^^

If BLU could spam spells endlessly, it would be incredibly broken for some things. In just your typical refresh/DT set with battery charge, I can cast a good 30 subductions in a row without running out of MP, and if there's anything to aspir, I'm good for as long as there's stuff to target. There really aren't many situations where spamming spells it ideal anyway.

Plus, for situations where you're focused on magical damage there's also a decent chance you may be /RDM and have the benefit of Convert to add even more ability to keep on spamming.

Is Tizona/Nehushtan a viable combo or does it not pull ahead of Tizona/(bura/uson) enough to warrant the skirm lottery for STP augments?

Even with 3 da or 10 stp doubt its a better offhand, the extra delay. Double nehus work to go for a xhit due to the higher delay but paired with Tizona not seeing it.

Which clubs are top tier for subduction? I have bolelabung but I get the odd feeling that skirmish clubs might be stronger.

Gabaxorea path A

Hands down.

Anyone ever try /drk for stunning? wondering if I should bother leveling drk as sub but *shrug*

Can we even get enough Macc to matter? I know we get ok FC gear and can load trait heavy for Fast Cast but have no clue what the performance would be for say Toji and lower.

Just a random thought.

The problem with blu/drk for stunning is a total lack of dark skill. Stun has good acc even without that but after the first couple stuns you are going to run in to issues with anything that matters. We also don't get as much macc as other mages so the brd or other support jobs are going to do it better without gimping the dd's.

Sudden lunge doesnt work?

Sudden Lunge works for 1-5, but it wouldn't be very effective on bosses. They'd build resistance to it very quickly. Temporal Shift is an option, but it has too long of a recast for a BLU to depend on it for solo stunning.

Sudden lunge aside, with proper support, there's always Flat blade...

I recall a thread where a mnk was the primary stunner with shoulder tackle so flat blade could be a possibility - of course significantly lowering your dps in the process

Likely was just catching Lahar. truthfully /drk if it worked seems like less of a DPS loss than holding tp.

How much Macc are brds packing on for stunning. I would make Hagondes +macc if it was viable. Worth it to not have to wait on a Sch, yet to have a rdm do toji well 8/, yeah I kno thats player not Job but just saying.

BRD can't wear Hagondes

The problem with lunge is that you have dual checks you have to pass. You have to physically land it so even with capped acc you have 5% fail rate. Then you have to land the effect. It's hard to pack on enough acc and macc to land on high level mobs for more than a couple stuns. You can tell quite quickly how it deteriorates. First stun will normally last a decent bit but with high level mobs, it very rarely lasts the full duration even from the first stun. You'll watch it go from ~15 secs to 5 sec to 1 sec to resists nearly every stun.

The advantage the spell stun has(and temporal shift) is they have several resist states. So even if you resist, it still stuns. This is why you can stun with sub skill but mobs who gain resistance will very quickly overcome those advantages. But As was said by Llewlyn shift's recast is huge. Capping out recast will still get you no where near the 9 sec recast your going to need to stun all tp moves. Maybe if you have 2 blues?

With a geo you could do meva down and macc up but if you have a geo they should be stunning anyway.

Blu whears Hagondes.... I was asking how much Macc Brds have, since they can stun well enough with no native skill.

My major concern for any toji is Lahar, so in the even of no stunner available then it be nice to have the option.

In a perfect world a Geo would be able to take over for stun... in reality Many geos do not have Macc sets. Geo as of late has suffered from Bandwagonitis

BRDs can stun Delve1 pretty easily.

Marin Staff +1, Mephitis Grip, Auerole
Nahtirah Hat, Orunmila/Voltsurge, Enchanter's +1, Loquacious
Vanir, Gende. +1, Sangoma, Prolix/Weather.
Ogapepo, Ninurta, Artsieq(B), Artsieq(B)

Macc total on that?

+162 MACC total

Is that with a Macc aug on gende?

Gendewitha doesn't get Macc augments.

Ah, I thought they did. Not that I can't say I've ever tried for them since I always shot for song casting time.

I doubt a GEO would need a MACC focused stun set for tojil.

Unlike BRD, GEO has native dark skill. If only a C(373 skill) Add a 119 staff and MACC will probably be sufficient for any reasonable length Tojil fight.

/blm yields 150 Skill. So a GEO with just capped skill is 223 MACC ahead of a BRD for stuns, before gear. If a BRD can stun unresisted in that +162 MACC set up above(and I'm not doubting they can), then GEO could probably do it in sparks gear.

And if not, there's still Indi-Focus(I'd assume the GEO spell would be dedicated to frailty, so no GEO-Langour)

So even the most bandwagoned GEO should be capable of stunning assuming they at least skilled dark magic. Now, if they just suck at stunning, that's a different matter.

GEO can reliably stun Tojil even with Apamajas II so there's really no need for serious macc in gear if you're choosing to go with an Ilv staff.

Do brds merit drk mag.?
Edit: Also counting maxed gifts? Blu gets soem more maac with Gifts.

Merited drk mag. and decently aug'd hagondes Blu should also be able to stun, just becomes a matter of FC.

Its knit picky but just need something else to work on for the time being. I could mess around with a tank set... but wouldn't want to even try on stuff that matters.

Guys since it seems nobody mentioned already, are those ugly zoar subligar +1 worth the hunt for pt set situation? Or still DA iuitl+1 are the bis option? Also on thf forum i can't find an answer!

So weapon skill offhand affects only the offhand, but what about the magic accuracy skill bonus in offhand? I forget if that adds macc, magic damage+ does in offhand, so not sure.

The magic accuracy skill stat is only active in the mainhand.