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Nyzul Uncharted Static -- LFM
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-04-25 17:55:34
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Fenrir.Minjo said: »
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...blowing LS leader, etc.

You're one to talk.

Hey, I killed Ix'MNK 20 times on my own, I'm desperate at this point.
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By Fairy.Ghaleon 2012-04-25 17:55:53
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Fenrir.Minjo said: »
Bismarck.Sylow said: »
...blowing LS leader, etc.

You're one to talk.

is it bad that i laughed at that? D:
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-04-25 17:57:40
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If I'm not particularly lucid at the moment, it's because I have been playing the Ix'MNK drinking game.

No drop: 2 shots
Deed: 1 shot
Vice: Pass out
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By krish 2012-04-25 18:05:07
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Bismarck.Sylow said: »
Hey, I killed Ix'MNK 20 times on my own, I'm desperate at this point.

Doesn't everyone miss sea? I miss sea like I miss salvage. Hours and hours and hours or work with nothing to show for it. I do like the drinking game idea though, except I'd be dead.

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By Asura.Eurewyen 2012-04-26 02:02:58
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krish said: »
I just thought it was funny that Eurewyen was addressing Minjo's second point while Minjo is refusing to discuses it because Eurewyen isn't talking about his first point.


Thank you, can only second this :)

And to everyone, I know this is a recruitemnt topic that Russ made. I simply wanted to ask why he write as he did, not making a huge argue, offending people. I know everyone has different oppinions wich is a good thing, otherwise the world would look, well prolly crazy!

So again do not take this personaly, and I'd pm Russ to apologize, never aspected this to go out of hands.
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By Gimpness 2012-04-26 02:24:03
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Bismarck.Sylow said: »
If I'm not particularly lucid at the moment, it's because I have been playing the Ix'MNK drinking game.

No drop: 2 shots
Deed: 1 shot
Vice: Pass out

if you weren't such a loldnc you'd have one by now.













just thought I'd add some helpful input to the thread.
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By Asura.Tamoa 2012-04-26 06:10:52
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Ragnarok.Psych said: »
Not seeing sam af3+2 body on OP's equip history makes me scared though lol

Why? Only means he hasn't actually been scanned while wearing it - look at the rest of his gear that has been scanned, I really don't think it likely that he doesn't have sam af3 +2 body.

Edit: here, I went and checked him for you:
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By Asura.Pergatory 2012-04-26 10:25:45
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Asura.Eurewyen said: »
Well I have a job wich are not allowing me to havemuch playtimes, and also have time for the family, that dosen't makes me "lazy" or less worth as player as mediacore player, no certenly not. I'm dedicated enough, when ingame helping my LS doing things, just don't have enough time to do an empy LS anymore, but again dosen't mean I'm as player are less worth.
I don't think the "busy real life" card really cuts it anymore. This game is almost a decade old now. Even the most casual of players, if serious about a given job, will have a relic, empy, or mythic by now.

If you don't have one, either you haven't been playing very long, or you are spreading your efforts over a large number of jobs and not specializing in any. I've been playing 9 years and have only 3 jobs. How long have you been playing and how many do you have? Looking at your profile you have seven at 99... so to have invested the same effort in those as I have in mine, even if you're a hardcore player who plays a lot, you would've had to be playing for about 23 years.

Neo-Nyzul is HARD. It requires the hardcore players, or specialist casual players. Some rag-tag group of people with mediocre gear who are excellent at their jobs can't just walk in and do it without some major luck. Literally every single second counts. If a relic DD would've killed something one swing sooner, that MATTERS in Neo-Nyzul. Even with the perfect team you need luck, so every slight improvement you can make in your team makes a huge difference.

Not saying that the fast & hard relic/mythic/empy-only rule is a good one. I think there are exceptions like the TP Bonus SAM or Hoarfrost/Borealis DRK. However, it's still a good bar to set when looking for serious players. If someone is serious and thinks they're competitive with a relic/mythic/empy DD, they could always ask him anyway, doesn't hurt. I've gotten into groups with my Hoarfrost DRK that way, even though they asked for relic/empy only. It's like on a job application when they put "4 years experience required" half the people who apply will never have done that job before.
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By Asura.Eurewyen 2012-04-26 11:33:27
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Asura.Pergatory said: »
Asura.Eurewyen said: »
Well I have a job wich are not allowing me to havemuch playtimes, and also have time for the family, that dosen't makes me "lazy" or less worth as player as mediacore player, no certenly not. I'm dedicated enough, when ingame helping my LS doing things, just don't have enough time to do an empy LS anymore, but again dosen't mean I'm as player are less worth.
I don't think the "busy real life" card really cuts it anymore. This game is almost a decade old now. Even the most casual of players, if serious about a given job, will have a relic, empy, or mythic by now.

If you don't have one, either you haven't been playing very long, or you are spreading your efforts over a large number of jobs and not specializing in any. I've been playing 9 years and have only 3 jobs. How long have you been playing and how many do you have? Looking at your profile you have seven at 99... so to have invested the same effort in those as I have in mine, even if you're a hardcore player who plays a lot, you would've had to be playing for about 23 years.

Neo-Nyzul is HARD. It requires the hardcore players, or specialist casual players. Some rag-tag group of people with mediocre gear who are excellent at their jobs can't just walk in and do it without some major luck. Literally every single second counts. If a relic DD would've killed something one swing sooner, that MATTERS in Neo-Nyzul. Even with the perfect team you need luck, so every slight improvement you can make in your team makes a huge difference.

Not saying that the fast & hard relic/mythic/empy-only rule is a good one. I think there are exceptions like the TP Bonus SAM or Hoarfrost/Borealis DRK. However, it's still a good bar to set when looking for serious players. If someone is serious and thinks they're competitive with a relic/mythic/empy DD, they could always ask him anyway, doesn't hurt. I've gotten into groups with my Hoarfrost DRK that way, even though they asked for relic/empy only. It's like on a job application when they put "4 years experience required" half the people who apply will never have done that job before.


Hi Pergatory,

I have to disagree on the first part, but that's me.

"I don't think the "busy real life" card really cuts it anymore. This game is almost a decade old now. Even the most casual of players, if serious about a given job, will have a relic, empy, or mythic by now."

Well its matter of oppinions really, someplayers have alot more time even if working fulltime job on side, but I haven't.

Normally I only play during weekends, unless it is my work weekend on tornus scheme, and I work evening night's and have a transport each day back and fourth for little over 2hrs 30min, and I walk all from 10-25km each day, so when I finally get home I'm busted. And so when comming to weekends it general gives me less playtimes due to beeing tired etc.. But you are all entilted to you oppinions.
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By Asura.Pergatory 2012-04-27 15:27:10
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Asura.Eurewyen said: »
Hi Pergatory,

I have to disagree on the first part, but that's me.

"I don't think the "busy real life" card really cuts it anymore. This game is almost a decade old now. Even the most casual of players, if serious about a given job, will have a relic, empy, or mythic by now."

Well its matter of oppinions really, someplayers have alot more time even if working fulltime job on side, but I haven't.

Normally I only play during weekends, unless it is my work weekend on tornus scheme, and I work evening night's and have a transport each day back and fourth for little over 2hrs 30min, and I walk all from 10-25km each day, so when I finally get home I'm busted. And so when comming to weekends it general gives me less playtimes due to beeing tired etc.. But you are all entilted to you oppinions.
That's fine, not saying there's anything wrong with that... but I am saying that Neo-Nyzul is probably not the event for you.

You have to account for the fact that this is a massively-multiplayer game with one difficulty that must apply to all players, casual and hardcore alike. If they make everything accessible to casual players, then the hardcore players will get bored. Neo-Nyzul is a hardcore event. You don't "need" anything from this event for anything at all, ever, period.

If your real life hasn't afforded you the opportunity to spend much time in-game, and thus you haven't developed a job to the bar of entry for most Neo-Nyzul groups, then you really should not be trying to convince people to let you in their group anyway. Instead, you should be doing the events those people did to get them where they are: work on a relic or empyrean weapon for example. Those are accessible to casual players now. People solo and duo Dynamis very effectively.
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By Asura.Failaras 2012-04-28 23:47:03
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Requiring Empyrean/Relic/Mythic for Drk and Sam? What the silly is this.

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I don't think the "busy real life" card really cuts it anymore. This game is almost a decade old now. Even the most casual of players, if serious about a given job, will have a relic, empy, or mythic by now.
I'm completely serious about my drk, serious enough to know what a waste of time making a Caladbolg is when I have a Hoarfrost blade that is just as good as 85 Calad/ barely worse than 90 Calad.

It really does come down to the player themselves, hence why I handpicked all the DDs in my succesful nyzul 100 group so I could know that they actually did damage and not just got a LS made Ukon.
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By Bahamut.Aios 2012-04-28 23:54:08
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Funny how only one person answered the whole topic with being interested in the static. While the rest are arguing over the same argument people have been arguing for the past 10 years of ffxi.
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2012-04-29 00:01:50
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Asura.Failaras said: »
Requiring Empyrean/Relic/Mythic for Drk and Sam? What the silly is this.

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I don't think the "busy real life" card really cuts it anymore. This game is almost a decade old now. Even the most casual of players, if serious about a given job, will have a relic, empy, or mythic by now.
I'm completely serious about my drk, serious enough to know what a waste of time making a Caladbolg is when I have a Hoarfrost blade that is just as good as 85 Calad/ barely worse than 90 Calad.
if you scrolled down a bit, you'd see he made that exception among a few others.
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By Asura.Failaras 2012-04-29 00:12:36
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Kin37ix said: »
Asura.Failaras said: »
Requiring Empyrean/Relic/Mythic for Drk and Sam? What the silly is this.
Ragnarok.



Couldnt find you in game Russ. PM sent. I'll send a tell if I see you online.
Is good but hardly something that should be required.
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By Sylph.Kiaru 2012-04-29 00:19:47
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Embrava with 400+ enhancement skill for SCH's.
You should have over 400 as a SCH by being level 99, if you don't I don't know what you're doing ;p
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By Siren.Fupafighters 2012-04-29 00:53:59
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No excuse to not have a empy/relic or something well geared with a magian weapon. Even if you have only two hours a day, you can make it count. It's annoiying hearing "I'm busy". Wish I were on your server OP, no one on siren will do nyzle isle it seems lol :/ good luck.
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By Asura.Failaras 2012-04-29 01:06:24
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Siren.Fupafighters said: »
No excuse to not have a empy/relic or something well geared with a magian weapon. Even if you have only two hours a day, you can make it count. It's annoiying hearing "I'm busy". Wish I were on your server OP, no one on siren will do nyzle isle it seems lol :/ good luck.
Drk and Sam both have great non-Magian or Empy/Relic/Mythic options, Drg probably does too but I don't know anything about Drg. Stop trying to apply an Emp/Mythic/Relic rule on jobs that don't need them to do well.
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By Siren.Fupafighters 2012-04-29 01:21:12
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K sorry "no excuse to not have one IF you desire one". Better?
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-04-29 01:31:04
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not really. if they desired one, they'd do it.
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By Asura.Fondue 2012-04-29 01:52:27
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Quetzalcoatl.Newty said: »
Two things:
1. Where are you getting 400->440 enhancing... no. 500 Enhancing or /goodbye.

really not that necessary
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By Sylph.Kiaru 2012-04-29 01:54:16
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SCH's without 500 skill are clearly gimped, that 1 extra regain man
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-04-29 02:01:53
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A SCH with 400 skill vs. a SCH with 500 skill is not nearly such an extreme jump in relative power as a WAR with a Widowmaker vs. a WAR with a useful weapon; don't even attempt to make it seem like it is.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-04-29 02:05:04
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3 posts in this thread and I can already tell what kind of person you are. Just stop while you're ahead, it'll save everyone a lot of frustration and you a metric *** of embarrassment.
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By Sylph.Kiaru 2012-04-29 02:05:33
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Quetzalcoatl.Newty said: »
Sylph.Kiaru said: »
SCH's without 500 skill are clearly gimped, that 1 extra regain man

2% Haste and 1 Regain across a potential 30 minute zone.. 450 > 500 respectively. I'll take the 500, enjoy your widowmaker.
Magic Haste capped with 440 skill + haste.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-04-29 02:08:47
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And if you're curious, assuming absolutely perfect parameters and your regain from Embrava is up for the entire 30 minute duration of Nyzul with absolutely no interruption from any factor whatsoever (not going to happen) and no TP overflow, that extra 1/tic regain is worth a whopping... 6 maximum extra weaponskills.
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