Bst Th1 Pet Gimp In Dynamis, Big Difference?
Bst Th1 pet gimp in Dynamis, big difference?
How much of a reduction in coins per run have you bst seen since the th1 gimp was imposed on your pets? I was going to raise bst for Dynamis farming, is it still the best choice? Or should I try dnc/thf? Any helpful advice would be appreciated.
I would wager killspeed is now the main difference between BST and DNC.
BST has less TH than a DNC/THF but kills far faster. BST probably pulls a little ahead due to this.
BST has less TH than a DNC/THF but kills far faster. BST probably pulls a little ahead due to this.
THF/DNC isnt too bad too. Mobs hardly hit my friend's THF/DNC (EP side)
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depends on the player/gear. i'm sure a well geared dnc/thf would/could pull in more than a gimp bst, and viceversa etc.
Well, after 6 runs of TH1 Falcorr, my yield hasn't changed one bit. Between 170 and 210 with my mules.
Camps were completely empty so it's not modified by any possible competition.
My mules are AH puppets, made of 5/5 Perle and Ruby rings so it's up to you, BST takes little to no effort, the pet does most of the work.
Camps were completely empty so it's not modified by any possible competition.
My mules are AH puppets, made of 5/5 Perle and Ruby rings so it's up to you, BST takes little to no effort, the pet does most of the work.
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Faithful lost TH1 but gained the full 2 hour duration of Dynamis, and enhanced attack. Not sure it's that big of a gimp now.
still using dipper, no change in currency yield per run.
I notice the difference.
And my numbers:
Before: 170-190
yesterday: 2 runs: 151 and 159.
Any mob that I kill without proc never drops anything. Before I could still get a coin on those.
Im not complaining thou.. just need 200 more and I go looking for a loan! woot! nerf away!
Oh Falcorr is a MoNsTeR now... that change was nice. If your interested on having some fun - when the mob is proc'd already - use fantoid (boost) for bigger numbers - once falcorr doubleattacked on it and was 1500+1500 ... I was o.0
And my numbers:
Before: 170-190
yesterday: 2 runs: 151 and 159.
Any mob that I kill without proc never drops anything. Before I could still get a coin on those.
Im not complaining thou.. just need 200 more and I go looking for a loan! woot! nerf away!
Oh Falcorr is a MoNsTeR now... that change was nice. If your interested on having some fun - when the mob is proc'd already - use fantoid (boost) for bigger numbers - once falcorr doubleattacked on it and was 1500+1500 ... I was o.0
I usually avg about 180-200 a run in bubu.
Yesterday I did a low of 133 but there was a few factors to that. Mostly just pushing towards being a bad run. One of the unhelpful factors was a party of 6 people fighting together at two of my camps. And having competition at crawlers which only supports one person, and switching to birds was pointless from the party of 6 camping that hard core.
Yesterday I did a low of 133 but there was a few factors to that. Mostly just pushing towards being a bad run. One of the unhelpful factors was a party of 6 people fighting together at two of my camps. And having competition at crawlers which only supports one person, and switching to birds was pointless from the party of 6 camping that hard core.
Why do people do dynamis, on EP mobs, in pts of 3~6 is beyond me.
Make 3 pts of 2 people and you will make 3x as many coins w/o trying.
I understand soloing gets boring, as i havent done dynamis in a bit because of that fact, but seeing 6 people in a pt on EP mobs is just HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE.
Make 3 pts of 2 people and you will make 3x as many coins w/o trying.
I understand soloing gets boring, as i havent done dynamis in a bit because of that fact, but seeing 6 people in a pt on EP mobs is just HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE.
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Odin.Ladyrikku said: »
THF/DNC isnt too bad too. Mobs hardly hit my friend's THF/DNC (EP side)
This is what I do. With my BLU/RDM mule (for a little 'tect, some haste and sleeps - and the sleeps are only necessary when I have to fight for mobs) I do 190+ with no competition.
When you get to SA every time you proc, THF solo damage goes way up.
Sylph.Zefyr said: »
Odin.Ladyrikku said: »
THF/DNC isnt too bad too. Mobs hardly hit my friend's THF/DNC (EP side)
This is what I do. With my BLU/RDM mule (for a little 'tect, some haste and sleeps - and the sleeps are only necessary when I have to fight for mobs) I do 190+ with no competition.
When you get to SA every time you proc, THF solo damage goes way up.
Good! I hope all the haters who cried about Bst, and then rejoiced when the nerf was announced are nonplussed.
I'm not a fan of idiot Bst's holding more than 3 mobs at a time, or being greedy or douchey in other ways. However, with the way people came out to cheer about Bst TH nerf it serves them right if they were all excited to see Bst's start to thin out post nerf, and nothing changes now. Suck it haters.
I'm not a fan of idiot Bst's holding more than 3 mobs at a time, or being greedy or douchey in other ways. However, with the way people came out to cheer about Bst TH nerf it serves them right if they were all excited to see Bst's start to thin out post nerf, and nothing changes now. Suck it haters.
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Sylph.Zefyr said: »
Odin.Ladyrikku said: »
THF/DNC isnt too bad too. Mobs hardly hit my friend's THF/DNC (EP side)
This is what I do. With my BLU/RDM mule (for a little 'tect, some haste and sleeps - and the sleeps are only necessary when I have to fight for mobs) I do 190+ with no competition.
When you get to SA every time you proc, THF solo damage goes way up.
You should try to control the BLU and have the THF there just for TH.
Using THF + BLU I dualbox 300+ every time, as long as there is'nt competition up my ***.
Even doing DC mobs, then with 15-25 forgottens on top of it.
Getting on average 160-190 with my lovely server's competition before was ~230
Ramuh.Laffter said: »
I would wager killspeed is now the main difference between BST and DNC.
BST has less TH than a DNC/THF but kills far faster. BST probably pulls a little ahead due to this.
BST has less TH than a DNC/THF but kills far faster. BST probably pulls a little ahead due to this.
Bahamut.Fistandantilus said: »
Good! I hope all the haters who cried about Bst, and then rejoiced when the nerf was announced are nonplussed.
I'm not a fan of idiot Bst's holding more than 3 mobs at a time, or being greedy or douchey in other ways. However, with the way people came out to cheer about Bst TH nerf it serves them right if they were all excited to see Bst's start to thin out post nerf, and nothing changes now. Suck it haters.
I'm not a fan of idiot Bst's holding more than 3 mobs at a time, or being greedy or douchey in other ways. However, with the way people came out to cheer about Bst TH nerf it serves them right if they were all excited to see Bst's start to thin out post nerf, and nothing changes now. Suck it haters.
Fupafighters said: »
Ramuh.Laffter said: »
I would wager killspeed is now the main difference between BST and DNC.
BST has less TH than a DNC/THF but kills far faster. BST probably pulls a little ahead due to this.
BST has less TH than a DNC/THF but kills far faster. BST probably pulls a little ahead due to this.
And honestly, how many good DNCs are out there anyway?
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Fupafighters said: »
Ramuh.Laffter said: »
I would wager killspeed is now the main difference between BST and DNC.
BST has less TH than a DNC/THF but kills far faster. BST probably pulls a little ahead due to this.
BST has less TH than a DNC/THF but kills far faster. BST probably pulls a little ahead due to this.
Yeah actually a good combo pre nerf was bst, and a dnc. Used to do that with a friend of mine. Her, and I proc'd while the pet supertanked. When one was staggered she busted out some nice damage. Between that, and ruinator it went pretty quick.
Bahamut.Fistandantilus said: »
Fupafighters said: »
Ramuh.Laffter said: »
I would wager killspeed is now the main difference between BST and DNC.
BST has less TH than a DNC/THF but kills far faster. BST probably pulls a little ahead due to this.
BST has less TH than a DNC/THF but kills far faster. BST probably pulls a little ahead due to this.
Yeah actually a good combo pre nerf was bst, and a dnc. Used to do that with a friend of mine. Her, and I proc'd while the pet supertanked. When one was staggered she busted out some nice damage. Between that, and ruinator it went pretty quick.
Ramuh.Laffter said: »
Fupafighters said: »
Ramuh.Laffter said: »
I would wager killspeed is now the main difference between BST and DNC.
BST has less TH than a DNC/THF but kills far faster. BST probably pulls a little ahead due to this.
BST has less TH than a DNC/THF but kills far faster. BST probably pulls a little ahead due to this.
And honestly, how many good DNCs are out there anyway?
This is probably true. DNC puts out way more damage than a BST does (even considering BST's superior WS), but BST pets have gotten a substantial boost and probably pull slightly ahead vs. low level targets.
I will let bst's have the glory of being better damage wise on EP mombs :P
Shiva.Galbir said: »
Sylph.Zefyr said: »
Odin.Ladyrikku said: »
THF/DNC isnt too bad too. Mobs hardly hit my friend's THF/DNC (EP side)
This is what I do. With my BLU/RDM mule (for a little 'tect, some haste and sleeps - and the sleeps are only necessary when I have to fight for mobs) I do 190+ with no competition.
When you get to SA every time you proc, THF solo damage goes way up.
I'm dualboxing. Right now he's just there to toss out cures, crowd control if I get a bunch of links, give me haste and protect3. However:
Cerberus.Kvazz said: »
You should try to control the BLU and have the THF there just for TH.
Using THF + BLU I dualbox 300+ every time, as long as there is'nt competition up my ***.
Even doing DC mobs, then with 15-25 forgottens on top of it.
Using THF + BLU I dualbox 300+ every time, as long as there is'nt competition up my ***.
Even doing DC mobs, then with 15-25 forgottens on top of it.
Hrm... I could give this a shot I suppose. My THF's geared really well, and the BLU is just a mule, but it does have most of the AF3+2 and a couple other modern pieces, including weapons and all spells up to the 95 cap.
Same question as above: are you doing magic procs? I could definitely get behind trying this approach if so, I'm super sick of being like "ope, 15 people in valk, over half of them are solo BSTs, it's gonna be a shitstorm at hippos and prolly funguars too."
BLU\DNC + THF\DNC doing JA proc.
Using MP only for dmg spells and haste\refresh, and occational sleepga when needed.
Using mostly thf mule for cures.
Just rape through mobs, dont ever hold mobs for ages trying to proc.
Using MP only for dmg spells and haste\refresh, and occational sleepga when needed.
Using mostly thf mule for cures.
Just rape through mobs, dont ever hold mobs for ages trying to proc.
Fupafighters said: »
I will let bst's have the glory of being better damage wise on EP mombs :P
DC too. Ruinator is probably one of the best WS in the game.
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I'm not sure about bst dmg, but I do know some have moved from the EP camps to the DC camps. My BF and I duo dnc/thf and sam/dnc and we definitely out kill them. I'm typically there for proc and pull, while he skill chains up a storm to kill everything. Every couple of mobs I make him stop so I can do a skillchain /blush
The only real bummer is seeing the bsts moving from EP > DC recently because it used to be competition free.
The only real bummer is seeing the bsts moving from EP > DC recently because it used to be competition free.
Well, of course DNC + SAM will outkill solo BSTs, lol.
Did tav today and did really well, had some competition in the bee frame but nothing bad, was destroying worms while they were down.
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220 coins with TH1 from falcorr, i love the 120 mins duration now lol, only have to use 1 falcorr per run : D
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220 coins with TH1 from falcorr, i love the 120 mins duration now lol, only have to use 1 falcorr per run : D
i stoped using bst for dynamis long time ago it isnt even that great compared to other jobs u can take in
i go thf/dnc now solo no dual box whm or anyything and get 200-250 a run
from what ive seen other bsts around me kill i kill 1.5-2x faster than them on ep mobs
i go thf/dnc now solo no dual box whm or anyything and get 200-250 a run
from what ive seen other bsts around me kill i kill 1.5-2x faster than them on ep mobs
farmed around 200 coins here
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