Is The Future Of Consoles At Risk?

Thank you, that is exactly what I wanted to get out of this topic. The discussion on whether or not that is a possibility in the next generation coming.

The problem with your point is your discussing content versus delivery as if its the same thing. Its not. There will be a market for more theatrical full length expensive games. Many people still want quality over quantity. People don't stop going to movie theaters and watching tv because you can get free videos on youtube.

The only argument that does make sense is method of delivery, because at the end of the day free to play won't be the only demand out there.

No.

I didnt read anything on the first page,or anything on the 2nd either,only elanabelle's post because I couldnt help but see it.

Consoles arent dead,but they should be for the specs we're "rumored"to be getting in the next generation its absolutely appauling.

And yet it works. Friend of mine back in England has already been using it as he travels most of the time due to his job. The issue is more your own net connection being stable than theirs.

Annoyingly not available in Australia yet as the latency to their servers are too high -.-

When I was in England, Iplayer, 4OD, ITV player and TVcatchup completely replaced TV. While watching free films in higher quality while cinema prices increased certainly had an impact on my cinema going.

I might be more inclined to goto the cinema if their projectors weren't from the dark ages. I'd take a HD film over cinema any day of the week.

On demand services still use the same content used for tv, just at a later date. Again a difference in delivery, not a difference in content.

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/final-fantasy-iii-for-ipad/id430823968?mt=8

:O!!

Consoles have at least one more generation to go before tablets possibly run them off.

I have a question.

What makes a console a console and why can't something like iPhone or iPad not? Aren't they also a standard that doesn't change until the next generation comes out and during that time new Aps and games have to be limited to the specs of the device?

You must not game much on tablets.

Touch controls are very prohibitive.

Unless you are going to hook up a controller to a tablet and even then the screen is horrible.

Maybe they could take over for mobile gaming, but not consoles.

That.

Bluetooth devices(for "hardcore" people) + Tablet + Tablet Stand is the next generation.

Screens will get better, computing power will get better, and it doubles over as a computer and a gaming device.

Just because something's on a tablet doesn't mean it has to require touch(though most games, especially casual, will probably try to do this). Can have it check for Bluetooth controller to see if you can play.

I'd rather play it on my DS

or emulator on pc

!! Where?

So all ipad has to offer in terms of epic RPGs is games that have already been around a long time and can be emulated on almost anything?

Also, I find it funny that Kalilla likes posts saying just "No, consoles aren't dying" yet wants to debate with me and doesn't like anything I have to say, lol.

Likely, I think consoles have a while to go before they "die" while true that parents might buy things like ipads, iphones, etc for their kids instead of consoles, our generation that grew on on consoles and who have the money to buy them as they come out and not have to want for holidays, births etc, will keep buying consoles so it all evens out really. Unless ipads start getting games as good as those you find on ps3, xbox, they wont die.

And Nintendo consoles have the best advantage because they will never allow their first party games to be on other devices but their own.

I did not read the article that was attached to the OP. After reading through the thread I haven't seen anything mentioned about the quality of parts that the new generation consoles are using.

I understand inflation and because of this the cost of game consoles have gone up in price. With that said though, how do you justify spending $250 or more for one of these consoles and in a year or two have to replace the console. We all know about the xbox red ring of death and the PS's has its own problems. We all have our own horror stories or have a friend that has been through x amount of these consoles.

I have a friend and brother who went through so many xbox's they jumped to ps3 only to have problems on that front. Even if your lucky enough to have the problem develop while your under warranty, its still a major inconvenience.

To me the death of the console won't come from a tablet or even a pc. It will come from the console companies. No one wants to invest so much money into a console to have to keep buying new ones. I have one of the Original ps2's, the big one that you had the option to use the hard drive and had to buy the network adapter to connect online. My son now uses it. The console is older then him and still plays well.

To me the cost of that ps2 was worth the investment. My 2nd 360 is just a dust collector that sits on the floor. Light comes on, but does nothing. The point that I'm trying to make is that we compare the cost of the new generation console's at release to inflation. However, how is it worth the cost if the console breaks every few years. We hear that to keep the release price for the consumer down, they had to use cheaper materials in the console, which caused the problem.

I don't know to many people who are willing to keep throwing money away on any system that won't last. I would much rather spend another 250 or more on games. My ps2 still runs well, why can't we expect the same from newer generation systems?

?... I liked your post on page one lol...

lol no.

No one is going to carry around a tablet with a controller just to have a mobile gaming machine when they can play better games on the DS etc if they were that "hardcore".

Also when people are at home, are they going to play games on their small tablet with a controller or their 40"+ TV?

Not to mention the market for such games is incredibly small. You aren't going to find a company making a game for the tablet that requires a controller. They would be games that would be touch screen with the option of a controller.

If anything is going to kill consoles and replace them, it sure wont be tablets.

Not to mention if this kind of gaming was so popular, then laptops would have dominated the market long ago.

A console is just a piece of hardware, but unlike all-in-one devices like a tablet, they have no screen and have finite use which making it not ideal for everyone to purchase. If people continue to replace their computers with smartphones and tablets, they already have the hardware to play games, why wouldn't game developers create games for such a large market of people?

Already the iPad 3 matches the sheer RAM of a PS3. The screen has a resolution of 2048 × 1536. And can host Bluetooth devices just like the PS3 controller. As hardware gets replaced companies decide if it's worth the cost to make something for the market. If a Playstation 6 isn't going to sell, why would they bother making it?

My guess is that the tablet market will likely have 3 large players. Android based, Apple based, and Windows based, and developers who can afford to port games to each of these markets will do so.

People still play NES and SNES games on console. So it's not like the world will stop using them altogether. But once it isn't profitable for a business to make it, they just won't do so. You'll still be playing your console while the rest of the world has moved on with an all-in-one device that has games. And if Nintendo decides that it can't make ground into the tablet market in 15 years, then you may see them porting over their games to the tablet leaders for dough.

Think about it... Carry around a controller and device that has some games that connects to a TV, or carry around your all-in-one device that has some games and also can connect to a TV.

In my opinion, iPad gaming is in its Intellivision stages: popular, but hasn't quite boomed yet. When the Nintendo stage hits, I'm hoping there's going to be a second coming of awesome games.

They will already be carrying around their tablet so why wouldn't game designers take advantage of that? It's short sighted to force someone to bring around a separate device just to play a game.


Why not hook up the tablet to a TV? It takes all of one cable.


Perhaps now, but as tablets proliferate it will be a much larger market for games. It's silly to think that things will just stop as they are now and never progress.


I'm not saying this will happen in 5 years, maybe not even 10. I'm sure that consoles can exist 12ish years before being wiped out by all-in-one devices.

I think the thing is consoles won't die, they will evolve. Much like 360, ps3 and Wii have evolved and aren't the same kinda consoles we grew up with.

The question is how can they evolve and proliferate enough to make a name in a market already dominated by an all-in-one tablet. Yes, Sony can make their future PlayStation an all-in-one device, like an iPhone or larger tablet. However, it'd be competing with the original iOS and Android devices, as well as the Nintendo and Microsoft all-in-one that those companies would also have to adapt for the market. And would you buy all three just to play your favourite exclusive franchises from Nintendo? Maybe so, but it is safe to say very few would, so like Mahayaya is saying, the classic game developers would become third-party. It would be in their best interest.

Just look at how Microsoft struggled to introduce the first Xbox, or how the PS3 struggled even more heavily upon release due to its hefty price tag. Every one of these systems would have a similar price - the hardcore gamer will demand availability, and it will be harder and harder to buy every console from every developer.

Besides that, this case is already almost cut and dry for the casual gamer. The proliferation of all-in-one devices like the iPhone or iPad has already stolen the entire market of casual games that began as Pogo or Shockwave games and are now the ever-popular Facebook games our grandmothers play. DS and PSP games are already being ported to iOS (FFT: The War of the Lions comes to mind), and I know since I'm already carrying my iPhone on me when I ride the bus, I'm choosing to play it any time I have the chance.

Handheld games never equated to portable games in this way; it was rare I would ever ride the bus with my Gameboy or DS unless I was really into the game I was playing at the time. Even as a child, it'd be the front step of the house, the park nearby, or with all the other kids on the block who played Pokemon. All-in-one devices really put the title 'portable' back in the handheld. A title it never deserved.

I'm just going to say that I don't agree at all with what you are saying, and that unless they have a system that heavily bombs, I doubt Nintendo will ever become a third-party developer.

I've just about stopped going to the movies altogether if I can download it online. Not worth the cost or time to drive to the theater and pay to have jackasses in front/behind you ruining a movie.

Some of these can reach that 60hour mark, Others can come close:

http://dlgames.square-enix.com/na/ipod/

Absolutely. I only go to the movies about twice a year anymore for these exact reasons and even then I'm usually being dragged there by someone.

Actually, i wasn't discussing content at all. The question on the table is whether "consoles" are dying. Not whether all-in-one devices can provide good content. If we are going to tweak the semantics and say "iPhones and facebook are like the next consoles bro!", then the discussion becomes moot altogether.

If we are changing the semantics of what a "console" is to say that something is a "console" regardless of its delivery method, i could very well say that the American "arcade" is still alive an well, it's just private and in my living room now.


They most certainly do, as others have attested to above. It's a matter of oppourtunity costs. Does going to the movies, the time and money spent in doing so, grant me a sufficiently greater number of utiles than just watching it at home? For some people going out to the movies is still an all encompassing enjoyable experience, others don't care for the extra atmosphere. Check up on how movie publishers feel about online movie pirating if you think it isn't making an impact on their market.



Excpet that it won't because there are way less people that care about games than people that don't. Hardcore gaming has always been, and will likely always be, a niche market which feeds off the average consumer to pay most of its bills. Nintendo, Sony and microsoft all play to the average consumer with stupid motion controls, desperatly trying to get that uninformed mom to buy one for christmas. Desperately trying to get that football jock to get one for the frat to play motion games at thier next kegger. They didn't introduce that crap for people like you and me. That's for sure.

Also: Sega is already (trying) to develop apps for iOS among other platforms. Go back in time to the late 80's and ask a kid who own a Genesis and not an NES if he thinks that'll ever ever happen.