Random Question Thread (FFXI Related)

Isn't there a target cap of 20 at a time or so?

I believe that applies to what will show up in your chat log / what will generate enmity toward.

For enmity, it's 15 mobs. Your direct target, and the 14 highest mob IDs in the AoE, get added to the hatelist.

For damaging the targets, I believe it's around 64 mobs. Although I have not verified that exact value. Should be in that ballpark though. It actually gets to be fairly difficult to count out mobs reliably when there's that many of them present...

But I have observed enough to say that there is a limit, and that some of the massive pulls in the Crawler's nest [S] exceeded it(pre Locus mobs). You' end up with a bunch of mobs still at full HP even as half the pull was dying.

I'm not certain if other actions, like sleeping mobs, have the same limit, but I think it is likely. I suspect that the action just doesn't even get applied to mobs past the limit. Wouldn't be too hard to test that part. Mass pull on one character, sleepga on another and then move on the puller and see if anything didn't get slept.

when you log in SE account management, there is a token page and a recovery code you can save. that way anytime you have any issues you can come back there, enter the code and remove the token or buy another one etc

I removed the token crap years ago and all playonline accounts on the same SE account have kept their inventory bonuses that it gave so it's pretty moot at this point.

Where is that at? I see the 'one time password' under the 'services and options' tab, but i dont see anything about a recovery code anywhere.

I just looked again to try and screenoshot it for you. looks like they removed that feature. Maybe once they added the third party authenticator support but not sure.

The BGwiki pages for Distract 1-3 and Frazzle 1-3 were recently edited to include a line stating that they have +150 magic accuracy.

I'm 99% sure this is BS since there are no sources listed for this, but can anyone else confirm?

I thought it was ~100, not 150.
Either way the source was SE themselves if I recall.
Those spells cannot produce Immunobreaks, so SE decided to give them an innate macc bonus to make them land more easily.

you can check the revision history as well as who made the change, and yeah looks like someone who made custom changes/spells to their server

You know you can edit the pages too, and get rid of the *** information.

Even if the Distract spells had some innate extra macc, I'd believe it a lot more if every tier had a different macc value. lv35 Distract coming with a hidden +150 macc bonus? Cmon, I dont even think you can reach 150 macc at that level.

What kinda gear do you need to be packing in a Dyna D group?

gear at around dyna-d's time was escha tier gear

There's a source linked here: https://www.bluegartr.com/threads/134257-Status-resistance-and-other-miscellaneous-JP-insights

I think this tweet in particular: https://twitter.com/MBZ2arZNkm174sV/status/1292994041722724352

It is likely true.

BG wiki is pretty bad for just straight up copying long_horned, luteff11's and other's info without sourcing where they got the info from.

Distract = ディストラ
I dont see that word anywhere on the yellow chart.

Frazzle = フラズル
I do see frazzle there, but giving it 150 seems sus for the aforementioned reason of a low level spell getting that much macc.

Distract having a macc boost makes no sense.

I kinda remember it being stated at some point that Frazzle and Distract had innate an magic accuracy boost due to immunobreak not being a thing for them, but I'll leave it to someone else to bother finding a source.

EDIT: Think this may be where I was remembering it from, though I have to say that I'm not so sure that I understand where that conclusion is coming from.

I think it'll depend on your group and what you are after.

I've never been super cereal about Dyna-D, but we've pulled casual 12ish man alliances together and done fine despite having some less geared than others. More serious groups may have more serious requirements, but I'm not sure how many of those still exist. It's not exactly the highest tier content anymore, it's not trivial either, but there is more flexibility esp if you are just after RP. We've made good progress through wave 3, but were more focused on RP/drops than we were killing the bosses, so keep that in mind. I've never played a critical job vs a W3 boss, so someone else should comment on that. We were also mostly drunk and fooling around when we went. We were intentionally getting charmed for instance, as part of some kind of *** up PvP system, so it wasn't really that serious any of the runs we did but we would still clear w1/w2 and chunks of w3 this way.

I've gone in on PLD, DNC, GEO, and DRK. I think the main thing is keeping yourself alive and not getting caught in squishy gear. Even the r0 Odyssey gear is helpful here. There's a lot of AoE floating around at times and you'll wanna be as self sufficient as possible, but that's true of most endgame content now. We organized parties around who had what types of gear, with more geared chars in parties with better buffers/support and those being carried more in other parties.

For PLD I main tanked a few zones IIRC, I was using Burt, full Sakpata, capped SIRD, decent FC gear, and the base JSE pieces where relevant. Nothing super special or unique and I almost think you could get away w/o Burt, but I never tried. If your DDs are using anywhere near current gear, stuff just doesn't live long, and the main risk is either over pulling or someone triggering the wrong mob. Tanking the bosses will be the main concern unless someone does something wrong. I kinda got thrown off the deep end on our first run, I joined as PLD and they threw me at it with no heads up, but it went fine despite me having 0 experience at it.

DRK same story, I had r15 Calad, full Sakpata, r20 Nyame (at the time, been a while). One of the others TPd in Sakpata but was using herc WSD gear for weaponskills, he didn't die from it. We were mowing through mobs and you could get away with less most likely. The main challenge is learning to target efficiently so you are keeping up on DPS, but we didn't really care and I venture with this content most won't these days either. There are some mobs you'll want to leave for DDs that can kill them quicker, though, if you are behind on gear.

You'll also need to consider mob types. Some of them charm, explode, or do other things you'll want to avoid. If you go with people who have experience, this would be a question to ask depending on zone, to make sure you know what to touch and what to leave for last or avoid.

Going in as 6, you'll have a higher gearing expectation. Going with 18, you have a lot more margin to not be fully geared out. The main thing I'd worry about (depending on job ofc) if you are a DD or support is staying in DT gear and knowing how to interact with the mobs/map. Just talk with whoever you are going with and see what they expect, but you can get by with a lot less than you can other content.

Here is the link to the version update notes regarding the increase in magic accuracy to Distract/Distract II/Frazzle/Frazzle II.


Distract II is fourth from the bottom of the chart, just translate the image with google lens.

I don't see Distract III/Frazzle III in that chart, however.

Because they didn't exist at that time.
They were created when they added "Gifts" as secondary feature of the Job Points system.

Login points this month lists Sheet of Mapitoto tunes under 500 pts. Is that a mistake? I dont have those and don't see it available

Correct, but the testing in that chart was posted in 2020. Basically my point is that it cannot be assumed that Distract III/Frazzle III also have the same innate magic accuracy bonuses as tiers I and II.

There's still also the fact that it's not listed by how much. 150 seems excessive even for III and would imagine its something more tame like +50 across the board

According to jpwiki's Stun page they have Stun listed as having an innate +200 magic accuracy and cite this freshly picked video. If Stun (a lvl 37 spell for DRK) has that much magic accuracy then it does not seem out of the realm of possibility to me that the spells listed on that table could have 150+ magic accuracy. Does anyone have any testing to prove otherwise?

Stun (and flash) are exceptions since they're meant to be quick blocks, stun by interruption and flash by drastically lowering enemy accuracy for a very short time. Also were around when player magic accuracy in gear capped at maybe 15, While Frazzle/distract are long duration debuffs, one of which that drastically eases the difficulty of landing further debuffs, on a job that has really high macc when it comes to enfeebling spells, added in a time where macc is plentiful in both gear/food.

Not saying it can't be that high, but find it very unlikely, but dont know of any testing on it either.

Yeah not seeing it. I already have them but I have no idea where they came from. I had thought it might be Harvest Festival but it wasn't.

Here is the dev post you were referencing.

According to the Orchestrion page, it's from Login points, I've just never seen it. Odd that it's incorrect?

April 2023
August 2023

https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Repeat_Login_Campaign/Past_Login_Campaign_Rewards

If I have slow (status) does going above the 25% gear haste help mitigate its effect? I'm wondering if its worth a line in my lua, especially in those edge cases where slow can't be removed due to an aura or just being spammed too often without a Yagrush WHM.