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 Shiva.Galbir
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By Shiva.Galbir 2012-04-13 07:48:17
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Still a bit confused on why Laevateinn though.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2012-04-13 08:41:36
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Mythic has some advantages to it, as well as dissadvantages.

One being inventory. It also WILL make bigger numbers if you can activate the gains from a 200tp WS. Meteor will also will benefit the most from it for the biggest épéen numbers evah.

However it does cost prolly 400-500 million to make and lost of the casting time reduction bonus will be more noticeable than you think. Gonna be interesting if SE makes a better casting staff in a future update.
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By Shiva.Galbir 2012-04-13 08:47:47
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How much Matk does aftermath 2 give?

Edit: Never mind found it on bg wiki.
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By Sylph.Knala 2012-04-14 19:13:09
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eh so kind of a noob question but assuming you had an optimal nuking build how much mab would the laevatenin need to pull ahead of a magian staff (AM2 down and up) and why, was trying to figure it out by looking at the damage equation but a bit confused.
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By Yamoto 2012-04-15 11:24:11
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Sylph.Knala said: »
eh so kind of a noob question but assuming you had an optimal nuking build how much mab would the laevatenin need to pull ahead of a magian staff (AM2 down and up) and why, was trying to figure it out by looking at the damage equation but a bit confused.

Using this set, which I believe is fairly optimal:


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Ao1w8f5obheMdG1IYTlBTjF2bE9wZkd0N3lJb1NmeVE&output=html

So around 81-82 MAB or greater would put Laev above ToM +6 staves.

I did Meteor at the end just for $h!t$ and giggles. The Laev has the ES bonus 10% applied to it. Looks pretty nice considering that also gets bumped up by 6.5x for the last caster in party.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Neisan 2012-04-15 11:26:44
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If you're going to use Nares Clogs Nares Saio will beat that Robe.
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By Yamoto 2012-04-15 11:28:24
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What is the set bonus on those? I didn't take that into account because I don't know the values.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Neisan 2012-04-15 11:29:21
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Set bonus is +2 Stats for 2 pieces, +5 for 3 pieces, +10 for 4 pieces, and +15 for 5 pieces.

From BGwiki. Even without Nares clogs Saio is 1 Int less than robe, which is most likely from legion, and currently unobtainable.
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By Yamoto 2012-04-15 11:33:26
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Ahh, yes you're right. Nares Saio would be better. +10INT for 4 pieces.
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By Valefor.Caelir 2012-04-17 12:53:57
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Addle also affects magic ACC

So how much magic ACC do you lose from that cape?
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By Asura.Malekith 2012-05-12 00:55:58
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Just wondering here...

Back in the day it BLM's used 320 skill/ 120 INT as the goal when gearing for consistent nuking vs. EG content.

I was wondering if a similar minimum skill/ int threshold was still needed for current end game content i.e. higher tier VW/ legion? At 99 that'd equate to 422 skill/ 158 INT.

I see that a lot of sets just cram in MAB in almost every slot. My own nuke set follows that same pattern.

Just looking for suggestions here... And yes I know I could easily slot in more INT gear. I already have pieces for such a set. Just talking aloud here and wanted feedback.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-05-12 00:58:44
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Nares Saio at 4/5 would be better.
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By Shiva.Galbir 2012-05-12 01:01:33
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Given the Vourukasha I that's your bliz set. Since /sch now gives hailstorm I would throw on a Hyorin Obi .
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By Asura.Malekith 2012-05-12 01:22:56
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
Nares Saio at 4/5 would be better.
Nares Saio will be the next piece I get after my next NI run... but seriously would it have killed SE to made new dats? Wearing Goliard v.2 makes me ill :/ Goetia looks sooooo much nicer!

Shiva.Galbir said: »
Given the Vourukasha I that's your bliz set. Since /sch now gives hailstorm I would throw on a Hyorin Obi .
Yarp got that! Depending on weather/ day I'll use relic legs/ zodiac ring/twilight cape/ obi

I'm here because I keep getting fluky numbers in VW and I'm wondering if all the INT I'm subtracting as I add in more MAB accounts for the variance. If that's the case then is there a minimum level of INT BLM's (especially elvaan like me) should maintain as was suggested in my first posting? :/
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2012-05-16 15:18:13
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Nares would let you pump out that spell for greater (not by much) & more consistant dmg, but Goetia will let you spam it more often, winning over time.

On another note, BG now reports that the fast cast on the Nares head piece is 10!!! if you can obtain it, you can just about put away that Goetia for your precast set and only use it in situations that call for a HEAVY boost to accuracy. 10% fastcast vs. 12% casting time delay is nearly negligible, especially since its quite easy to cap on BLM with elemental celerity.
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By Asura.Malekith 2012-05-19 20:39:01
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4/5 Nares = +10 to stats?
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-05-19 20:46:04
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yes
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By Sylph.Takitu 2012-06-12 11:40:00
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So now the optimal set for a blm is 4/5 nares and goetia legs?

If my poor math skills are right <.<...

goetia

head int+8 mab+0 mac+0 mgcrit +0 ele skill+15
body int+0 mab+11 mac+11 mgcrit +0
hand int+7 mab+8 mac+0 mcrit +5
leg int+0 mab+7 mac+7 mcrit +0
feet int+10 mab+0 mac+0 mcrit +0

total int+25 mab+26 mac+18 mcrit +5 enmity-16 ele skill+15 Ele skill casting time and delay -12% mp+100

nares (with goetia legs)

head int+12 mab+5 mac+0 mcrit +5 conserve mp+5
body int+9 mab+8 mac+12 mcrit +0
hand int+0 mab+13 mac+0 mcrit +0 hmp+4
feet int+0 mab+7 mac+7 mcrit +0
Gleg int+0 mab+7 mac+7
set int+10

total int+31 mab+40 mac+26 mcrit +5 conserve mp+5 enmity-5 mp+6% Fast cast+10
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-06-12 11:52:27
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Valk legs with mab augment would be better, but yeah basicly
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By Cerberus.Pukushu 2012-06-13 12:38:19
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Two questions:
Nares body vs Pharm body:

Nares gives +10 bonus but isnt that a +5 net gain making it 14int vs 15int? or is it +10 for every piece (which would be a net of +20 int)

M crit:

There are several options that give large boosts to m crit rate and damage. How big of an impact do they make? Also (and forgive my noobness on this question) does m crit give 100% boost if it procs? or is it some other % boost?
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By Bismarck.Oswin 2012-06-23 00:54:56
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Nares would let you pump out that spell for greater (not by much) & more consistant dmg, but Goetia will let you spam it more often, winning over time.

Wondering if Goetia would win outside of Abyssea and VW. Clearly there is not a huge press for MP in those two events and you normally get super buffs anyway.

However for something like Legion or playing around soloing DMG staves; would it be more wise to stick with 5/5 Goetia instead of 4/5 Nares and Goetia Legs?
 
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By Ragnarok.Blindphleb 2012-07-03 17:53:59
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I remember during the 75 cap a lot of different gear sets were necessary for a BLM i.e. Enfeeb, Nuke, Eledebuff, Hmp, Idle, SS, etc. I've started using BLM again but mainly for VW so it's really boring and sets don't really matter all that much.

My question is what are the more useful gear sets for an end game blm now?
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By Ragnarok.Blindphleb 2012-07-04 16:02:42
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By Ragnarok.Blindphleb 2012-07-05 06:53:42
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anyone?
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-07-05 06:57:00
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Idle, fastcast, nuke, stoneskin, cure, enfeeb, pdt and mdt
Just halfass the cure set and aim for around capped potency (blm can easily do that) not to take up too much space.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-07-05 07:00:10
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Also keep in mind you don't really need alot of MND(if any extra at all) these days to cap stoneskin.
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By Ragnarok.Blindphleb 2012-07-05 07:00:55
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Thanks Kvazz, how crazy do we need to get with macc in our enfeeb sets now? I remember bad things happening to Blms in dynamis who didn't have adequate macc in their sleep macros. It looks like enfeeb skill and macc are fairly easy to come by now.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-07-05 07:03:17
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A few VW can be quite resistant to certain elements, so I just *** as much as I can without completely killing my inventory.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-07-05 07:04:13
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This is what I use personally

Edit: I don't really have any MND pieces with me on BLM so I use this for slow\para aswell :p
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