Fenrir.Minjo said: »
Asura.Kaisuko said: »
Leviathan.Phenomena said: »
Ya sorry but ukkos needed to be gimped. no denying that. it needs a cap on its crit chance. 60-75% or something.
Voidwatch would like a word with you.
[dev1063] Job Adjustments: Warrior
[dev1063] Job Adjustments: Warrior
Uh, no. I keep seeing people complaing about how Ukko's had 80% crit @300TP. What retard what holding TP that long to make that noteworthy anyways? And Crit cap for 1 WS? Just no.
Voidwatch would like a word with you.
That pic atop the page is hilarious XD
But yeh, to all those 1 trick WARs I have one word...
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
But yeh, to all those 1 trick WARs I have one word...
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Ramuh.Sagittario said: »
That pic atop the page is hilarious XD
But yeh, to all those 1 trick WARs I have one word...
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
But yeh, to all those 1 trick WARs I have one word...
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
The lashing out of the have-nots is always entertaining.
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Want to know what else we can do to make Relics compare to Empyreans? Buff the weaponskills so that they don't suck and fix the aftermath. Remember how they buffed the Relic weaponskills if you have the level 90 version? Yeah, do that, except instead of just taking the old modifiers and adding 25% to the damage, actually adjust the weaponskill so that it doesn't suck anymore. And instead of giving a +7 subtle blow aura aftermath, alter the aftermath to be good, and then make it an aura! Congratulations, you now have an lolEmpy!
But, want to know who should really be pissed off? Masamune/Amano Samurai's that are now consistently being shown up by a Kentanotachi.
But, want to know who should really be pissed off? Masamune/Amano Samurai's that are now consistently being shown up by a Kentanotachi.
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Quetzalcoatl.Vodkaa said: »
Dude who cares my 85 ukon was smashing 95 bravura, people making points about empys are doing so because the 85 stage is a complete joke to get and still made the 95 relic ga a joke.
You sir make the best point. Empys broke alot of Relic due to their ws being so damn strong.
Cerberus.Kodaijin said: »
3 Ukonvasara 95s(http://www.ffxiah.com/item/19637/ukonvasara) vs 33 Bravura 95s(http://www.ffxiah.com/item/18670/bravura) disagrees with you.
Also people who do relics are in general gonna have a different drive to upgrading. Look how many people have 85's still on empys... It comes down to most empy owners are scrubs and they are easy to get. I say at least get 90... if you are somewhat serious about the job, cause 90 is hard yo just like abyssea. Only 90 that has some what of an excuse was Kannagi *if you say ochain I'll slap you cause if you didn't go for 90 ochain why the *** did yo u start it?*
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Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
Cerberus.Kodaijin said: »
3 Ukonvasara 95s(http://www.ffxiah.com/item/19637/ukonvasara) vs 33 Bravura 95s(http://www.ffxiah.com/item/18670/bravura) disagrees with you.
Also people who do relics are in general gonna have a different drive to upgrading. Look how many people have 85's still on empys... It comes down to most empy owners are scrubs and they are easy to get. I say at least get 90... if you are somewhat serious about the job, cause 90 is hard yo just like abyssea. Only 90 that has some what of an excuse was Kannagi *if you say ochain I'll slap you cause if you didn't go for 90 ochain why the *** did yo u start it?*
Ochain broke Pld I'm sorry I have to say that. That thing made Pld so broken that it shield blocks like 90-95% of the time.
Bahamut.Novadragon said: »
Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
Cerberus.Kodaijin said: »
3 Ukonvasara 95s(http://www.ffxiah.com/item/19637/ukonvasara) vs 33 Bravura 95s(http://www.ffxiah.com/item/18670/bravura) disagrees with you.
Also people who do relics are in general gonna have a different drive to upgrading. Look how many people have 85's still on empys... It comes down to most empy owners are scrubs and they are easy to get. I say at least get 90... if you are somewhat serious about the job, cause 90 is hard yo just like abyssea. Only 90 that has some what of an excuse was Kannagi *if you say ochain I'll slap you cause if you didn't go for 90 ochain why the *** did yo u start it?*
Ochain broke Pld I'm sorry I have to say that. That thing made Pld so broken that it shield blocks like 90-95% of the time.
You cannot block death, encumbrance, artificial weakness, or hate resets. Ochain hasn't broken a thing.
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Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
Cerberus.Kodaijin said: »
3 Ukonvasara 95s(http://www.ffxiah.com/item/19637/ukonvasara) vs 33 Bravura 95s(http://www.ffxiah.com/item/18670/bravura) disagrees with you.
Also people who do relics are in general gonna have a different drive to upgrading. Look how many people have 85's still on empys... It comes down to most empy owners are scrubs and they are easy to get. I say at least get 90... if you are somewhat serious about the job, cause 90 is hard yo just like abyssea. Only 90 that has some what of an excuse was Kannagi *if you say ochain I'll slap you cause if you didn't go for 90 ochain why the *** did yo u start it?*
The reason I left my empyreal at 85 is because I actually have respect for my friends and focus on getting theirs done and out of the way. Especially since some want the harp which requires apademak horns to even be useful vs my kannagi already being useful getting a slight boost its better to let my friends finish theirs first.
Regardless, Bravura may not have the raw damage capabilities of a Ukon, but it does offer much better party support than a Ukon ever will which makes it better than any level Ukon imho.
Bahamut.Novadragon said: »
Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
Cerberus.Kodaijin said: »
3 Ukonvasara 95s(http://www.ffxiah.com/item/19637/ukonvasara) vs 33 Bravura 95s(http://www.ffxiah.com/item/18670/bravura) disagrees with you.
Also people who do relics are in general gonna have a different drive to upgrading. Look how many people have 85's still on empys... It comes down to most empy owners are scrubs and they are easy to get. I say at least get 90... if you are somewhat serious about the job, cause 90 is hard yo just like abyssea. Only 90 that has some what of an excuse was Kannagi *if you say ochain I'll slap you cause if you didn't go for 90 ochain why the *** did yo u start it?*
Ochain broke Pld I'm sorry I have to say that. That thing made Pld so broken that it shield blocks like 90-95% of the time.
Ochain 90-95% on fodder mobs yeah. Still high regardless, but 90% of ***is ja's, tp moves, and spells. You can't always block tp's and ja's you can't *cept like 100fists* Aegis Imo > Ochain in majority of situations.
Shiva.Squally said: »
Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
Cerberus.Kodaijin said: »
3 Ukonvasara 95s(http://www.ffxiah.com/item/19637/ukonvasara) vs 33 Bravura 95s(http://www.ffxiah.com/item/18670/bravura) disagrees with you.
Also people who do relics are in general gonna have a different drive to upgrading. Look how many people have 85's still on empys... It comes down to most empy owners are scrubs and they are easy to get. I say at least get 90... if you are somewhat serious about the job, cause 90 is hard yo just like abyssea. Only 90 that has some what of an excuse was Kannagi *if you say ochain I'll slap you cause if you didn't go for 90 ochain why the *** did yo u start it?*
The reason I left my empyreal at 85 is because I actually have respect for my friends and focus on getting theirs done and out of the way. Especially since some want the harp which requires apademak horns to even be useful vs my kannagi already being useful getting a slight boost its better to let my friends finish theirs first.
Regardless, Bravura may not have the raw damage capabilities of a Ukon, but it does offer much better party support than a Ukon ever will which makes it better than any level Ukon imho.
If your brd friends play all songs in empy bard harp and full time af3+2.. that's a waste of horns.
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Fenrir.Minjo said: »
Bahamut.Novadragon said: »
Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
Cerberus.Kodaijin said: »
3 Ukonvasara 95s(http://www.ffxiah.com/item/19637/ukonvasara) vs 33 Bravura 95s(http://www.ffxiah.com/item/18670/bravura) disagrees with you.
Also people who do relics are in general gonna have a different drive to upgrading. Look how many people have 85's still on empys... It comes down to most empy owners are scrubs and they are easy to get. I say at least get 90... if you are somewhat serious about the job, cause 90 is hard yo just like abyssea. Only 90 that has some what of an excuse was Kannagi *if you say ochain I'll slap you cause if you didn't go for 90 ochain why the *** did yo u start it?*
Ochain broke Pld I'm sorry I have to say that. That thing made Pld so broken that it shield blocks like 90-95% of the time.
You cannot block death, encumbrance, artificial weakness, or hate resets. Ochain hasn't broken a thing.
Well I didn't think of that but it still prevents any interuptions on Pld all the time. Even seeing some taking all of the dynamis mobs and spamming AE on them. (It is annoying though. I know I can run and kill them but don't wanna cause drama) Switching target for claims to proc and kill. I miss the old Pld/Nin style tanking. That made it really fun.
Bravura is in no way superior to Ukonvasura in any sense of party support. The only limiting factor in most content is how quickly you can kill something, or how quickly you can cap alignment so you can kill something. Bravura's latent MDT and PDT aren't in the same ballpark as Ukko's Fury.
Fenrir.Minjo said: »
Bahamut.Novadragon said: »
Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
Cerberus.Kodaijin said: »
3 Ukonvasara 95s(http://www.ffxiah.com/item/19637/ukonvasara) vs 33 Bravura 95s(http://www.ffxiah.com/item/18670/bravura) disagrees with you.
Also people who do relics are in general gonna have a different drive to upgrading. Look how many people have 85's still on empys... It comes down to most empy owners are scrubs and they are easy to get. I say at least get 90... if you are somewhat serious about the job, cause 90 is hard yo just like abyssea. Only 90 that has some what of an excuse was Kannagi *if you say ochain I'll slap you cause if you didn't go for 90 ochain why the *** did yo u start it?*
Ochain broke Pld I'm sorry I have to say that. That thing made Pld so broken that it shield blocks like 90-95% of the time.
You cannot block death, encumbrance, artificial weakness, or hate resets. Ochain hasn't broken a thing.
Bahamut.Novadragon said: »
Fenrir.Minjo said: »
Bahamut.Novadragon said: »
Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
Cerberus.Kodaijin said: »
3 Ukonvasara 95s(http://www.ffxiah.com/item/19637/ukonvasara) vs 33 Bravura 95s(http://www.ffxiah.com/item/18670/bravura) disagrees with you.
Also people who do relics are in general gonna have a different drive to upgrading. Look how many people have 85's still on empys... It comes down to most empy owners are scrubs and they are easy to get. I say at least get 90... if you are somewhat serious about the job, cause 90 is hard yo just like abyssea. Only 90 that has some what of an excuse was Kannagi *if you say ochain I'll slap you cause if you didn't go for 90 ochain why the *** did yo u start it?*
Ochain broke Pld I'm sorry I have to say that. That thing made Pld so broken that it shield blocks like 90-95% of the time.
You cannot block death, encumbrance, artificial weakness, or hate resets. Ochain hasn't broken a thing.
Well I didn't think of that but it still prevents any interuptions on Pld all the time. Even seeing some taking all of the dynamis mobs and spamming AE on them. (It is annoying though. I know I can run and kill them but don't wanna cause drama) Switching target for claims to proc and kill. I miss the old Pld/Nin style tanking. That made it really fun.
Casting spells is not an integral part of playing PLD. Time spent casting is time spent not accruing enmity through swings, and time spent not dealing damage to increase alignment values or outright killing something.
Bismarck.Helel said: »
I'm all for this, just so I can drink delicious WAR tears (and MNK).
Fenrir.Minjo said: »
Bahamut.Novadragon said: »
Fenrir.Minjo said: »
Bahamut.Novadragon said: »
Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
Cerberus.Kodaijin said: »
3 Ukonvasara 95s(http://www.ffxiah.com/item/19637/ukonvasara) vs 33 Bravura 95s(http://www.ffxiah.com/item/18670/bravura) disagrees with you.
Also people who do relics are in general gonna have a different drive to upgrading. Look how many people have 85's still on empys... It comes down to most empy owners are scrubs and they are easy to get. I say at least get 90... if you are somewhat serious about the job, cause 90 is hard yo just like abyssea. Only 90 that has some what of an excuse was Kannagi *if you say ochain I'll slap you cause if you didn't go for 90 ochain why the *** did yo u start it?*
Ochain broke Pld I'm sorry I have to say that. That thing made Pld so broken that it shield blocks like 90-95% of the time.
You cannot block death, encumbrance, artificial weakness, or hate resets. Ochain hasn't broken a thing.
Well I didn't think of that but it still prevents any interuptions on Pld all the time. Even seeing some taking all of the dynamis mobs and spamming AE on them. (It is annoying though. I know I can run and kill them but don't wanna cause drama) Switching target for claims to proc and kill. I miss the old Pld/Nin style tanking. That made it really fun.
Casting spells is not an integral part of playing PLD. Time spent casting is time spent not accruing enmity through swings, and time spent not dealing damage to increase alignment values or outright killing something.
Flash says, "Hai to you" but flash also in general is for dmg mitigation not just hate. That's a slight difference
Asura.Kaisuko said: »
Fenrir.Minjo said: »
Bahamut.Novadragon said: »
Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
Cerberus.Kodaijin said: »
3 Ukonvasara 95s(http://www.ffxiah.com/item/19637/ukonvasara) vs 33 Bravura 95s(http://www.ffxiah.com/item/18670/bravura) disagrees with you.
Also people who do relics are in general gonna have a different drive to upgrading. Look how many people have 85's still on empys... It comes down to most empy owners are scrubs and they are easy to get. I say at least get 90... if you are somewhat serious about the job, cause 90 is hard yo just like abyssea. Only 90 that has some what of an excuse was Kannagi *if you say ochain I'll slap you cause if you didn't go for 90 ochain why the *** did yo u start it?*
Ochain broke Pld I'm sorry I have to say that. That thing made Pld so broken that it shield blocks like 90-95% of the time.
You cannot block death, encumbrance, artificial weakness, or hate resets. Ochain hasn't broken a thing.
The only things that ever kill my PLD are the same things that would kill anyone without an Ochain. White damage intake has become a comical aspect of VW.
Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
Fenrir.Minjo said: »
Bahamut.Novadragon said: »
Fenrir.Minjo said: »
Bahamut.Novadragon said: »
Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
Cerberus.Kodaijin said: »
3 Ukonvasara 95s(http://www.ffxiah.com/item/19637/ukonvasara) vs 33 Bravura 95s(http://www.ffxiah.com/item/18670/bravura) disagrees with you.
Also people who do relics are in general gonna have a different drive to upgrading. Look how many people have 85's still on empys... It comes down to most empy owners are scrubs and they are easy to get. I say at least get 90... if you are somewhat serious about the job, cause 90 is hard yo just like abyssea. Only 90 that has some what of an excuse was Kannagi *if you say ochain I'll slap you cause if you didn't go for 90 ochain why the *** did yo u start it?*
Ochain broke Pld I'm sorry I have to say that. That thing made Pld so broken that it shield blocks like 90-95% of the time.
You cannot block death, encumbrance, artificial weakness, or hate resets. Ochain hasn't broken a thing.
Well I didn't think of that but it still prevents any interuptions on Pld all the time. Even seeing some taking all of the dynamis mobs and spamming AE on them. (It is annoying though. I know I can run and kill them but don't wanna cause drama) Switching target for claims to proc and kill. I miss the old Pld/Nin style tanking. That made it really fun.
Casting spells is not an integral part of playing PLD. Time spent casting is time spent not accruing enmity through swings, and time spent not dealing damage to increase alignment values or outright killing something.
Flash says, "Hai to you" but flash also in general is for dmg mitigation not just hate. That's a slight difference
Casting Flash with an Almace in hand shows a severe lack in understanding of enmity mechanics.
Fenrir.Minjo said: »
Bahamut.Novadragon said: »
Fenrir.Minjo said: »
Bahamut.Novadragon said: »
Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
Cerberus.Kodaijin said: »
3 Ukonvasara 95s(http://www.ffxiah.com/item/19637/ukonvasara) vs 33 Bravura 95s(http://www.ffxiah.com/item/18670/bravura) disagrees with you.
Also people who do relics are in general gonna have a different drive to upgrading. Look how many people have 85's still on empys... It comes down to most empy owners are scrubs and they are easy to get. I say at least get 90... if you are somewhat serious about the job, cause 90 is hard yo just like abyssea. Only 90 that has some what of an excuse was Kannagi *if you say ochain I'll slap you cause if you didn't go for 90 ochain why the *** did yo u start it?*
Ochain broke Pld I'm sorry I have to say that. That thing made Pld so broken that it shield blocks like 90-95% of the time.
You cannot block death, encumbrance, artificial weakness, or hate resets. Ochain hasn't broken a thing.
Well I didn't think of that but it still prevents any interuptions on Pld all the time. Even seeing some taking all of the dynamis mobs and spamming AE on them. (It is annoying though. I know I can run and kill them but don't wanna cause drama) Switching target for claims to proc and kill. I miss the old Pld/Nin style tanking. That made it really fun.
Casting spells is not an integral part of playing PLD. Time spent casting is time spent not accruing enmity through swings, and time spent not dealing damage to increase alignment values or outright killing something.
Ha has change hasn't it? I miss the old style of Pld.
Fenrir.Minjo said: »
Bravura is in no way superior to Ukonvasura in any sense of party support.
Bahamut.Novadragon said: »
Fenrir.Minjo said: »
Bahamut.Novadragon said: »
Fenrir.Minjo said: »
Bahamut.Novadragon said: »
Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
Cerberus.Kodaijin said: »
3 Ukonvasara 95s(http://www.ffxiah.com/item/19637/ukonvasara) vs 33 Bravura 95s(http://www.ffxiah.com/item/18670/bravura) disagrees with you.
Also people who do relics are in general gonna have a different drive to upgrading. Look how many people have 85's still on empys... It comes down to most empy owners are scrubs and they are easy to get. I say at least get 90... if you are somewhat serious about the job, cause 90 is hard yo just like abyssea. Only 90 that has some what of an excuse was Kannagi *if you say ochain I'll slap you cause if you didn't go for 90 ochain why the *** did yo u start it?*
Ochain broke Pld I'm sorry I have to say that. That thing made Pld so broken that it shield blocks like 90-95% of the time.
You cannot block death, encumbrance, artificial weakness, or hate resets. Ochain hasn't broken a thing.
Well I didn't think of that but it still prevents any interuptions on Pld all the time. Even seeing some taking all of the dynamis mobs and spamming AE on them. (It is annoying though. I know I can run and kill them but don't wanna cause drama) Switching target for claims to proc and kill. I miss the old Pld/Nin style tanking. That made it really fun.
Casting spells is not an integral part of playing PLD. Time spent casting is time spent not accruing enmity through swings, and time spent not dealing damage to increase alignment values or outright killing something.
Ha has change hasn't it? I miss the old style of Pld.
Flash was arguably never a wise use of one's time outside of an initial Sentinel-augmented VE boost. Its utility died entirely when Atonement was introduced.
The "old style" of anything in this game was typically born out of ignorance. It shifted because we realized we were making a mistake.
Fenrir.Minjo said: »
Bahamut.Novadragon said: »
Fenrir.Minjo said: »
Bahamut.Novadragon said: »
Fenrir.Minjo said: »
Bahamut.Novadragon said: »
Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
Cerberus.Kodaijin said: »
3 Ukonvasara 95s(http://www.ffxiah.com/item/19637/ukonvasara) vs 33 Bravura 95s(http://www.ffxiah.com/item/18670/bravura) disagrees with you.
Also people who do relics are in general gonna have a different drive to upgrading. Look how many people have 85's still on empys... It comes down to most empy owners are scrubs and they are easy to get. I say at least get 90... if you are somewhat serious about the job, cause 90 is hard yo just like abyssea. Only 90 that has some what of an excuse was Kannagi *if you say ochain I'll slap you cause if you didn't go for 90 ochain why the *** did yo u start it?*
Ochain broke Pld I'm sorry I have to say that. That thing made Pld so broken that it shield blocks like 90-95% of the time.
You cannot block death, encumbrance, artificial weakness, or hate resets. Ochain hasn't broken a thing.
Well I didn't think of that but it still prevents any interuptions on Pld all the time. Even seeing some taking all of the dynamis mobs and spamming AE on them. (It is annoying though. I know I can run and kill them but don't wanna cause drama) Switching target for claims to proc and kill. I miss the old Pld/Nin style tanking. That made it really fun.
Casting spells is not an integral part of playing PLD. Time spent casting is time spent not accruing enmity through swings, and time spent not dealing damage to increase alignment values or outright killing something.
Ha has change hasn't it? I miss the old style of Pld.
Flash was arguably never a wise use of one's time outside of an initial Sentinel-augmented VE boost. Its utility died entirely when Atonement was introduced.
The "old style" of anything in this game was typically born out of ignorance. It shifted because we realized we were making a mistake.
Ya I did enjoy the Atonement Pld times but since Hate is so easy to cap it rather became useless -_-... Also due to mob resistance.
Asura.Ludoggy said: »
Fenrir.Minjo said: »
Bravura is in no way superior to Ukonvasura in any sense of party support.
Assuming the effect lands, the duration is extremely short. This is a mostly self-defeating mechanism in the current day's content. One typically wants most damage to be concentrated into blitzes, which not only guarantee(d) an extremely formidable Ukko's Fury, but supply everyone with items that substantially boost their attack. The defense down effect also diminishes severely as you deduct additional melee.
Ok...ok...you know, after thinking about it, I'd have been fine with the Crit rate nerf on my Ukon...but seriously, leave Blood Rage alone.
Fenrir.Minjo said: »
Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
Fenrir.Minjo said: »
Bahamut.Novadragon said: »
Fenrir.Minjo said: »
Bahamut.Novadragon said: »
Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
Cerberus.Kodaijin said: »
3 Ukonvasara 95s(http://www.ffxiah.com/item/19637/ukonvasara) vs 33 Bravura 95s(http://www.ffxiah.com/item/18670/bravura) disagrees with you.
Also people who do relics are in general gonna have a different drive to upgrading. Look how many people have 85's still on empys... It comes down to most empy owners are scrubs and they are easy to get. I say at least get 90... if you are somewhat serious about the job, cause 90 is hard yo just like abyssea. Only 90 that has some what of an excuse was Kannagi *if you say ochain I'll slap you cause if you didn't go for 90 ochain why the *** did yo u start it?*
Ochain broke Pld I'm sorry I have to say that. That thing made Pld so broken that it shield blocks like 90-95% of the time.
You cannot block death, encumbrance, artificial weakness, or hate resets. Ochain hasn't broken a thing.
Well I didn't think of that but it still prevents any interuptions on Pld all the time. Even seeing some taking all of the dynamis mobs and spamming AE on them. (It is annoying though. I know I can run and kill them but don't wanna cause drama) Switching target for claims to proc and kill. I miss the old Pld/Nin style tanking. That made it really fun.
Casting spells is not an integral part of playing PLD. Time spent casting is time spent not accruing enmity through swings, and time spent not dealing damage to increase alignment values or outright killing something.
Flash says, "Hai to you" but flash also in general is for dmg mitigation not just hate. That's a slight difference
Casting Flash with an Almace in hand shows a severe lack in understanding of enmity mechanics.
Who said anything about almace? I'm talking in general for the lulz, and I also said it's more for dmg mitigation
There's virtually no point in playing the job without an Almace and Ochain/Aegis. Its hardly a defensive increase over competent DD, and will not keep hate off of anyone with Vorpal Blade and an Honorbound. Its simply not feasible.
And Flash sometimes allows you to evade one hit from a higher level target. More often than not, I'm still hit.
And Flash sometimes allows you to evade one hit from a higher level target. More often than not, I'm still hit.
Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
Shiva.Squally said: »
Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
Cerberus.Kodaijin said: »
3 Ukonvasara 95s(http://www.ffxiah.com/item/19637/ukonvasara) vs 33 Bravura 95s(http://www.ffxiah.com/item/18670/bravura) disagrees with you.
Also people who do relics are in general gonna have a different drive to upgrading. Look how many people have 85's still on empys... It comes down to most empy owners are scrubs and they are easy to get. I say at least get 90... if you are somewhat serious about the job, cause 90 is hard yo just like abyssea. Only 90 that has some what of an excuse was Kannagi *if you say ochain I'll slap you cause if you didn't go for 90 ochain why the *** did yo u start it?*
The reason I left my empyreal at 85 is because I actually have respect for my friends and focus on getting theirs done and out of the way. Especially since some want the harp which requires apademak horns to even be useful vs my kannagi already being useful getting a slight boost its better to let my friends finish theirs first.
Regardless, Bravura may not have the raw damage capabilities of a Ukon, but it does offer much better party support than a Ukon ever will which makes it better than any level Ukon imho.
If your brd friends play all songs in empy bard harp and full time af3+2.. that's a waste of horns.
You're an idiot if you think just because he got the harp he plays all songs like that. He plays the first songs with normal instruments and tunes the 3rd with the harp. Thats not gimp thats a free min V you tool.
Bravura offers evasion down and def down and makes it easier for wars to tank or just to survive in situations. Also the ease of getting a 95 bravura vs 95 ukon makes bravura a much more ideal DoT until ukon is commonplace.
Just because the def down has diminishing returns as people get higher attack doesnt mean that it wont boost the damage people do. I highly doubt that EVERY dd job in the game gets 2x the enemy def in attack on EVERY mob in the game.
Alexander.Mastersquall said: »
you tool.
Shiva.Squally said: »
Regardless, Bravura may not have the raw damage capabilities of a Ukon, but it does offer much better party support than a Ukon ever will which makes it better than any level Ukon imho.
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