[dev1063] Job Adjustments: Warrior
[dev1063] Job Adjustments: Warrior
what about wildfire and jishnu's >.> why dont SE lower them too
Shiva.Narkash said: »
Tanaka: "We reduced restraint.....but this NA WAR is still doing much more damage than my mythic GK....I got it! Let's screw them over with this!"
Hyperbole much? lol... Mythic GK is top tier weapon anyways. Nobody knows how much crit bonus they are losing from Ukkos, or Smite, so let's QQ less during the "speculation" phase, shall we? And the loss of crit dmg from BR isn't even THAT bad. War still gets good crit dmg bonus, and this also affects EVERY job in range of BR anyways, not just the war's epeen. Also, this is for balance, seriously. Ukko's would do absurdly high dmg. You guys QQ that abyssea ruined everything, but Ukko's still did "abyssea style" dmg, outside of abyssea, as does smite in some cases. inb4 "FU man. You don't have a job that was nerfed.." Because I do... Pup.. Remember the days of like 6k magic morters... yeah... Did I cry? No. It was OP lol.
All in favor of jumping ship to ff14 in protest say aye!
I don't even play war, just not liking the direction the game seems to be going >.>
I don't even play war, just not liking the direction the game seems to be going >.>
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I'm not really annoyed with my job getting weaker since I have SAM to fall back on. It's just that nerfing doesn't promote job growth.
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Ragnarok.Zanary said: »
what about wildfire and jishnu's >.> why dont SE lower them too
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Asura.Ina said: »
All in favor of jumping ship to ff14 in protest say aye!
I don't even play war, just not liking the direction the game seems to be going >.>
I don't even play war, just not liking the direction the game seems to be going >.>
different game, same people, that's not really protesting at all.
They will still be getting your money.
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Jesus Christ. Next they'll lower the Attack boost we get from Berserk on WAR main. -_-;
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Odin.Eikechi said: »
Shiva.Narkash said: »
Tanaka: "We reduced restraint.....but this NA WAR is still doing much more damage than my mythic GK....I got it! Let's screw them over with this!"
Hyperbole much? lol... Mythic GK is top tier weapon anyways. Nobody knows how much crit bonus they are losing from Ukkos, or Smite, so let's QQ less during the "speculation" phase, shall we? And the loss of crit dmg from BR isn't even THAT bad. War still gets good crit dmg bonus, and this also affects EVERY job in range of BR anyways, not just the war's epeen. Also, this is for balance, seriously. Ukko's would do absurdly high dmg. You guys QQ that abyssea ruined everything, but Ukko's still did "abyssea style" dmg, outside of abyssea, as does smite in some cases. inb4 "FU man. You don't have a job that was nerfed.." Because I do... Pup.. Remember the days of like 6k magic morters... yeah... Did I cry? No. It was OP lol.
That is a terrible example lol pup automation being able to do that was clearly unbalanced<if not unintentional>, i mean at 75 i could solo about 20k dmg in a master/pet combo lol. ukon can just spike high big woop. Fix other jobs before bringing out a nerf bat is what people want.
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This is a surprise? If anything it may be a very late one.
Ukko's Fury is ridiculously strong. 300% TP is around what? 80% Crit Rate?
How is that fair/reasonable/balanced? It simply isn't and you can't defend it lol.
Blood Rage is the only real nerf I see, it sucks to see a useful party tool just trashed. However, they're still keeping the critical hit rate. That much is decent.
This is more than likely to compensate a lot of the new gear we've seen with augments like: Critical Hit Damage +15%, and Double Attack Damage +15%.
The trade offs sound promising. Double Attack Augment, and Critical Attack Bonus Augment too. Other jobs are obviously getting the shaft, ie: Victory Smite probably two of many to come.
Ukko's Fury is ridiculously strong. 300% TP is around what? 80% Crit Rate?
How is that fair/reasonable/balanced? It simply isn't and you can't defend it lol.
Blood Rage is the only real nerf I see, it sucks to see a useful party tool just trashed. However, they're still keeping the critical hit rate. That much is decent.
This is more than likely to compensate a lot of the new gear we've seen with augments like: Critical Hit Damage +15%, and Double Attack Damage +15%.
The trade offs sound promising. Double Attack Augment, and Critical Attack Bonus Augment too. Other jobs are obviously getting the shaft, ie: Victory Smite probably two of many to come.
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Someone please fire this Tanaka guy, or maybe Fireja everyone and Employga those who would bring brand new breathtaking content and new future for the game.
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Ragnarok.Amador said: »
This is a surprise? If anything it may be a very late one.
Ukko's Fury is ridiculously strong. 300% TP is around what? 80% Crit Rate?
How is that fair/reasonable/balanced? It simply isn't and you can't defend it lol.
Blood Rage is the only real nerf I see, it sucks to see a useful party tool just trashed. However, they're still keeping the critical hit rate. That much is decent.
This is more than likely to compensate a lot of the new gear we've seen with augments like: Critical Hit Damage +15%, and Double Attack Damage +15%.
The trade offs sound promising. Double Attack Augment, and Critical Attack Bonus Augment too. Other jobs are obviously getting the shaft, ie: Victory Smite probably two of many to come.
Ukko's Fury is ridiculously strong. 300% TP is around what? 80% Crit Rate?
How is that fair/reasonable/balanced? It simply isn't and you can't defend it lol.
Blood Rage is the only real nerf I see, it sucks to see a useful party tool just trashed. However, they're still keeping the critical hit rate. That much is decent.
This is more than likely to compensate a lot of the new gear we've seen with augments like: Critical Hit Damage +15%, and Double Attack Damage +15%.
The trade offs sound promising. Double Attack Augment, and Critical Attack Bonus Augment too. Other jobs are obviously getting the shaft, ie: Victory Smite probably two of many to come.
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Asura.Ina said: »
All in favor of jumping ship to ff14 in protest say aye!
I don't even play war, just not liking the direction the game seems to be going >.>
I don't even play war, just not liking the direction the game seems to be going >.>
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If something is deemed King due to a broken ws which has 80% Critical Hit Rate half the time then by what merit did it earn the right to be king before it?
Raging Rush? lol.
I don't think so.
Ukko's Fury made Warrior a beast due to it's broken ridiculousness, which is why so many people had use out of it. Very simply that. While yes improving jobs is a better route to take, it still wouldn't change the fact that warrior's would have remained with Ukko's Fury 80% Crit Rate, which would of implied what exactly?
Bring WAR to everything? It's a joke.
Raging Rush? lol.
I don't think so.
Ukko's Fury made Warrior a beast due to it's broken ridiculousness, which is why so many people had use out of it. Very simply that. While yes improving jobs is a better route to take, it still wouldn't change the fact that warrior's would have remained with Ukko's Fury 80% Crit Rate, which would of implied what exactly?
Bring WAR to everything? It's a joke.
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Ragnarok.Amador said: »
If something is deemed King due to a broken ws which has 80% Critical Hit Rate half the time then by what merit did it earn the right to be king before it?
Raging Rush? lol.
I don't think so.
Ukko's Fury made Warrior a beast due to it's broken ridiculousness, which is why so many people had use out of it. Very simply that. While yes improving jobs is a better route to take, it still wouldn't change the fact that warrior's would have remained with Ukko's Fury 80% Crit Rate, which would of implied what exactly?
Bring WAR to everything? It's a joke.
Raging Rush? lol.
I don't think so.
Ukko's Fury made Warrior a beast due to it's broken ridiculousness, which is why so many people had use out of it. Very simply that. While yes improving jobs is a better route to take, it still wouldn't change the fact that warrior's would have remained with Ukko's Fury 80% Crit Rate, which would of implied what exactly?
Bring WAR to everything? It's a joke.
Ya'll need to calm down I think.
If you look at the details of the "nerf" more closely, and actually inspect them, rather than just emo-raging, you'll see that these adjustments are only designed to tone down Ukko's Fury damage. Outside of that, WAR will remain just as viable as it is now, most likely.
Why not try out Ruinator, Upheaval, and/or Stardiver, Warriors? Might be fun.
If you look at the details of the "nerf" more closely, and actually inspect them, rather than just emo-raging, you'll see that these adjustments are only designed to tone down Ukko's Fury damage. Outside of that, WAR will remain just as viable as it is now, most likely.
Why not try out Ruinator, Upheaval, and/or Stardiver, Warriors? Might be fun.
Ragnarok.Amador said: »
This is a surprise? If
This is more than likely to compensate a lot of the new gear we've seen with augments like: Critical Hit Damage +15%, and Double Attack Damage +15%.
This is more than likely to compensate a lot of the new gear we've seen with augments like: Critical Hit Damage +15%, and Double Attack Damage +15%.
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Asura.Ina said: »
All in favor of jumping ship to ff14 in protest say aye!
The equivalent of punching yourself repetitively in the scrotum in protest against something you don't agree with? I can think of better ways.
For the record, I think the Blood Rage nerf is a load of crap. I don't personally play WAR, but I definitely enjoy the buff I get from my friends who do. As for the Ukko's Fury/Victory Smite nerf, I don't really have an opinion for or again. I just hope it doesn't hurt either job in the long run.
In before terrible petition spam.
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Bismarck.Elanabelle said: »
Ya'll need to calm down I think.
If you look at the details of the "nerf" more closely, and actually inspect them, rather than just emo-raging, you'll see that these adjustments are only designed to tone down Ukko's Fury damage. Outside of that, WAR will remain just as viable as it is now, most likely.
Why not try out Ruinator, Upheaval, and/or Stardiver, Warriors? Might be fun.
If you look at the details of the "nerf" more closely, and actually inspect them, rather than just emo-raging, you'll see that these adjustments are only designed to tone down Ukko's Fury damage. Outside of that, WAR will remain just as viable as it is now, most likely.
Why not try out Ruinator, Upheaval, and/or Stardiver, Warriors? Might be fun.
Because I put few months and 200M into Ukonvasara?
Give it back and we can talk about other options.
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*** this, im playing lucent heart. put that in your pipe and smoke it tanaka!
Ragnarok.Amador said: »
If something is deemed King due to a broken ws which has 80% Critical Hit Rate half the time then by what merit did it earn the right to be king before it?
Raging Rush? lol.
I don't think so.
Ukko's Fury made Warrior a beast due to it's broken ridiculousness, which is why so many people had use out of it. Very simply that. While yes improving jobs is a better route to take, it still wouldn't change the fact that warrior's would have remained with Ukko's Fury 80% Crit Rate, which would of implied what exactly?
Bring WAR to everything? It's a joke.
Raging Rush? lol.
I don't think so.
Ukko's Fury made Warrior a beast due to it's broken ridiculousness, which is why so many people had use out of it. Very simply that. While yes improving jobs is a better route to take, it still wouldn't change the fact that warrior's would have remained with Ukko's Fury 80% Crit Rate, which would of implied what exactly?
Bring WAR to everything? It's a joke.
I am curious...did you just say pre emp war was trash? i might be misreading it but if that is the case omglol >.>
I bailed the warboat before it was mainstream to do so. Enjoy doing the new ukko's fury critrate testing whoever gets stuck w/ the job.
Bismarck.Elanabelle said: »
Ya'll need to calm down I think.
If you look at the details of the "nerf" more closely, and actually inspect them, rather than just emo-raging, you'll see that these adjustments are only designed to tone down Ukko's Fury damage. Outside of that, WAR will remain just as viable as it is now, most likely.
Why not try out Ruinator, Upheaval, and/or Stardiver, Warriors? Might be fun.
If you look at the details of the "nerf" more closely, and actually inspect them, rather than just emo-raging, you'll see that these adjustments are only designed to tone down Ukko's Fury damage. Outside of that, WAR will remain just as viable as it is now, most likely.
Why not try out Ruinator, Upheaval, and/or Stardiver, Warriors? Might be fun.
Um no, a big hell no. Unless you own a Ukonvasara, you dont feel the sting we do.
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And what about all the relic users who felt the sting when empy's came out?
How about when SE nerf'd ninja tanking when the level cap was still 75?
Or when they nerf'd ranged attacks?
they did that in what 2005?
quick someone call 911 and get a whaaaambulance over here.
How about when SE nerf'd ninja tanking when the level cap was still 75?
Or when they nerf'd ranged attacks?
they did that in what 2005?
quick someone call 911 and get a whaaaambulance over here.
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Sylph.Arckain said: »
And what about all the relic users who felt the sting when empy's came out?
How about when SE nerf'd ninja tanking when the level cap was still 75?
Or when they nerf'd ranged attacks?
they did that in what 2005?
quick someone call 911 and get a whaaaambulance over here.
How about when SE nerf'd ninja tanking when the level cap was still 75?
Or when they nerf'd ranged attacks?
they did that in what 2005?
quick someone call 911 and get a whaaaambulance over here.
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For the record, they withheld WAR's level 96-99 traits specifically so they could use them as collateral like this. They existed on the test servers until the day before the update when live and I had already finished testing them.
Odin.Tsuneo said: »
Sylph.Arckain said: »
And what about all the relic users who felt the sting when empy's came out?
How about when SE nerf'd ninja tanking when the level cap was still 75?
Or when they nerf'd ranged attacks?
they did that in what 2005?
quick someone call 911 and get a whaaaambulance over here.
How about when SE nerf'd ninja tanking when the level cap was still 75?
Or when they nerf'd ranged attacks?
they did that in what 2005?
quick someone call 911 and get a whaaaambulance over here.
I'm sorry but what the *** are you talking about?
Relics take a few months at least to finish (now at least, used to take years of dedication if you gathered coins by yourself)
A weapon that takes a week at most to finish should not be top tier, EVER.
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