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The Last Dance: Gearing Paradigms for a New Age
By Aeyela 2013-02-15 14:33:36
Maybe more importantly, no matter what your strategy DNC/THF is going to have a pretty difficult time breaking 250 currency without a mule, so congratulations: you've found a viable approach!
The real perk will always remain not having a rage attack everytime I see a Falcorr in Dynamis.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Dova 2013-02-15 14:44:43
Maybe more importantly, no matter what your strategy DNC/THF is going to have a pretty difficult time breaking 250 currency without a mule
Without 55 bst's in zone 250 is pretty reasonable...
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By Carbuncle.Pwnzone 2013-02-15 14:44:57
Maybe more importantly, no matter what your strategy DNC/THF is going to have a pretty difficult time breaking 250 currency without a mule
This is refering to doing ws procs or killing dc's? Soloing ep's while procing ja's, ending with 250 means you had really bad competition or had a difficult time with the 20 min.
By ScaevolaBahamut 2013-02-15 14:45:58
Yeah, well, considering I took PUP as far as 37 before realizing that THAT SPECIFIC REASON was probably not good enough for what I was getting myself into, I might take a look at this with my dubs teeps ***.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-02-15 14:49:52
Quetzalcoatl.Dova said: »Maybe more importantly, no matter what your strategy DNC/THF is going to have a pretty difficult time breaking 250 currency without a mule
Without 55 bst's in zone 250 is pretty reasonable...
Idk about you but I'm not farming Dynamis in Whitegate.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2013-02-15 14:55:05
Idk about you but I'm not farming Dynamis.
ftfy
I actually am considering finally upgrading and augmenting my Etoile Tiara, though. Then I'll store it. I don't need another another 20 seconds of a JA I never use, but it also seems dumb to have all the other junk for DNC that I do have and not have the augmented Tiara.
By ScaevolaBahamut 2013-02-15 14:58:41
Carbuncle.Pwnzone said: » Maybe more importantly, no matter what your strategy DNC/THF is going to have a pretty difficult time breaking 250 currency without a mule This is refering to doing ws procs or killing dc's? Soloing ep's while procing ja's, ending with 250 means you had really bad competition or had a difficult time with the 20 min.
I mean, I gotta be honest; I haven't really hauled *** for a full two hours in Dynamis since finishing Ebisu. These days I'll go in, get a hundred or so, get bored, and leave after an hour. But at no point was I ever at an EP camp with little enough competition to not get completely screwed by mobs that would Just Not Proc. It's why I stopped doing EPs entirely, unless I was feeling lazy, which in fairness I admit is basically all the time.
I guess what I'm saying is I want to live in a world where I can proc every EP and still maximize killrate.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-02-15 15:05:33
Idk about you but I'm not farming Dynamis.
ftfy
I actually am considering finally upgrading and augmenting my Etoile Tiara, though. Then I'll store it. I don't need another another 20 seconds of a JA I never use, but it also seems dumb to have all the other junk for DNC that I do have and not have the augmented Tiara.
I like to pretend I farm Dynamis.
By Aeyela 2013-02-17 03:32:22
What are people's opinion of closed position merits?
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By Siren.Mcclane 2013-02-17 11:22:24
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By Phoenix.Lillicarnage 2013-02-18 07:13:54
What are people's opinion of closed position merits?
For PVP... so...
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2013-02-18 07:28:15
Depends how you use your dancer, etc. At the moment, though, I don't feel there is much content in the game where I'm 15 Evasion away from the Hit Rate floor. I tend to either have no problem at all evading it (Abyssea, old content, etc.) or the huge sacrifices that I have to make in order to evade its non-lethal hits just make evasion-tanking a stupid idea (Salvage v2 bosses).
The one thing that I would find Closed Position merits useful for at the moment is the MMM Bugard (Liquidation Maze). I have been killing it just to try and get a Kogglemander to test, and wow. He hits for 600+ damage and is very accurate. I offhand the AGI/Eva Thokcha there, and it would help to have another 15 evasion.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2013-02-18 14:14:39
So, damage type weapons.
I obviously use daggers for Piercing. I recently got Shivaji Baghnakhs for blunt. That leaves Slashing, and currently I use Vampiric Claws for that.
Is there a better Slashing option? Sagasinger/Talekeeper? Are they actually Slashing, or piercing like most of the other swords we can wear?
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2013-02-18 14:18:57
So, damage type weapons.
I obviously use daggers for Piercing. I recently got Shivaji Baghnakhs for blunt. That leaves Slashing, and currently I use Vampiric Claws for that.
Is there a better Slashing option? Sagasinger/Talekeeper? Are they actually Slashing, or piercing like most of the other swords we can wear? lex talionis ftw
By ScaevolaBahamut 2013-02-18 14:21:19
Chiroptera Dagger....?
Probably too straight up weak.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2013-02-18 14:22:02
Vampiric Claws are better with capped H2H skill:
D39, 229 delay (no DW) vs. D47, 240 delay (no merits)
Short of Sagasinger or Talekeeper being slashing, I don't think Swords are the way to go.
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2013-02-18 14:24:10
I could be wrong, but I remember Perseus's Harpe having slashing type damage apart from Weapon skills.
Was it ever tested to see if this persisted for all kinds of Harpe weapons?
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2013-02-18 14:27:03
BGwiki claims Perseus's Harpe is Slashing damage too, but the other two wikis don't.
I guess Angr Harpe isn't exactly hard to get to test this. Perhaps I'll take a Talekeeper and Angr Harpe to the damage-type Apollyon tonight.
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2013-02-18 14:27:09
Vampiric Claws are better with capped H2H skill:
D39, 229 delay (no DW) vs. D47, 240 delay (no merits)
Short of Sagasinger or Talekeeper being slashing, I don't think Swords are the way to go. Sword would have a stronger/slashing ws, but for just melee dot, Vampiric may beat Lex then.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2013-02-18 14:29:07
DNC doesn't get Vorpal Blade or even Savage Blade natively, so we're looking at either using Fast Blade or getting +15% DPS by switching to Vampiric Claws.
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2013-02-18 14:31:46
DNC doesn't get Vorpal Blade or even Savage Blade natively, so we're looking at either using Fast Blade or getting +15% DPS by switching to Vampiric Claws. Oh, I was thinking /war. Only situation I can really think about for needing slashing is damage resist Limbus and Jailor of Whatever.
Limbus I would /war, and the Jailor I would be on a different job anyways (ie Thf or Drk).
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2013-02-18 14:33:10
The possiblity of Harpes intrigues me though, good offhand to Lex for slashing stuff. (Since dagger ws's are still piercing.)
And if you can dual wield Lex/Harpe, that would beat Claws I would think.
Edit: Don't mind my semi word jumble, kinda distracted by hunger atm.
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2013-02-20 20:35:37
So I was joking around with a friend, and proposed this question.
anrin obi for the second ws in a Darkness skillchain in Dynamis (double dark weather). Yay or nay?
Basically, guaranteed 25% skillchain bonus (vs 1/3 chance normally) vs a real ws belt.
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By Siren.Mcclane 2013-02-20 20:35:57
So I was joking around with a friend, and proposed this question.
anrin obi for the second ws in a Darkness skillchain in Dynamis (double dark weather). Yay or nay?
Basically, guaranteed 25% skillchain bonus (vs 1/3 chance normally) vs a real ws belt.
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Stupid edit causing me to choose a different picture
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2013-02-20 20:37:00
So I was joking around with a friend, and proposed this question.
anrin obi for the second ws in a Darkness skillchain in Dynamis (double dark weather). Yay or nay?
Basically, guaranteed 25% skillchain bonus (vs 1/3 chance normally) vs a real ws belt.
This is you:
I am a broken link? T.T
(More poorly drawn than broken, but whatever.)
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2013-02-20 21:18:53
I don't think it's actually guaranteed to give the bonus in double weather, but I could be wrong. It typically picks the least resistant element.
http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Darkness
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2013-02-20 23:19:17
Aw, that is disappointing (thank goodness).
Oh yeah, did you find out any cool new things about Angr Harpe and its ilk?
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2013-02-21 06:39:58
Still haven't tested it. I've been doing a lot of afking lately.
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By Fenrir.Yuriki 2013-02-21 08:51:52
My apologies if this has been answered recently, but I didn't see anything in the last few pages.
What are we looking at as far as the optimal Curing Waltz set nowadays? Outside of random +CHR pieces, I'm using:
Anwig Salade with Waltz Ability delay -2
AF1 body
Asklepian ring
Valseur's ring
Roundel earring
Dance shoes with 3% potency (still trying, years later)
Is CHR gear for the other slots all that important, keeping inv space in mind? 1-5 extra HP is not worth it in my opinion, 50 HP would be. If so, what are you guys using? Also, any other cure potency other than what I have, outside of AF2 head and Sonia's?
I'm working to get this all updated and stuff, until then, read what's already here!
Current sets on pages 83-84.
In general, check the last few pages of the thread, as the most updated information will be there.
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