The Last Dance: Gearing Paradigms For A New Age

Language: JP EN DE FR
2010-09-08
New Items
users online
Forum » FFXI » Jobs » Dancer » The Last Dance: Gearing Paradigms for a New Age
The Last Dance: Gearing Paradigms for a New Age
First Page 2 3 ... 6 7 8 ... 117 118 119
 Lakshmi.Byrth
VIP
Offline
Server: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
user: Byrthnoth
Posts: 6184
By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-01-02 06:44:33
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Can you test if Coruscanti affects both hands or only the Coruscanti hand, please?
 Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu
Offline
Server: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1060
By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2012-01-02 12:50:39
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
Can you test if Coruscanti affects both hands or only the Coruscanti hand, please?
i havent done a thorough test myself since i assumed it would just be the hand its equipped but just by eyeballing it, looks like it's only increasing that hand. Sorry i would do an actual test but i can no longer log in at the moment.
 Bismarck.Sylow
Offline
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3111
By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-02 13:48:05
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
Can you test if Coruscanti affects both hands or only the Coruscanti hand, please?

Best way to do this would be to one-shot mandies in Saru with the main hand, right?
 Fenrir.Minjo
Offline
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
user: Tsuko
Posts: 1326
By Fenrir.Minjo 2012-01-02 14:19:53
Link | Quote | Reply
 
The Abyssea method should work. Get your critical hit rate up to the point where Coruscanti would put you at exactly 100%, and see if your main hand is able to score non-crits.
 Bismarck.Sylow
Offline
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3111
By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-02 14:29:45
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Fenrir.Minjo said: »
The Abyssea method should work. Get your critical hit rate up to the point where Coruscanti would put you at exactly 100%, and see if your main hand is able to score non-crits.

That would have been so much less time consuming than the 100 saruta mobs I just killed, but I'm missing a Salvage chariot :(

Or possibly 2, I don't know, I've done Salvage a total of 3 times ever.
 Bismarck.Sylow
Offline
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3111
By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-02 15:54:43
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Oh wait, duh, Rancor Mantle should take me to 95% crit rate with Razed Ruins / Gnarled Horn / Scorpion Queen. *retard*
 Bismarck.Sylow
Offline
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3111
By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-02 16:08:39
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Using Razed Ruins, Gnarled Horn, Scorpion Queen + Rancor Mantle, still able to land non-critical hits with mainhand.
 Cerberus.Tikal
Offline
Server: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
user: Tikal
Posts: 4945
By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-01-02 16:11:22
Link | Quote | Reply
 
30+20+20+10+5?
 Bismarck.Sylow
Offline
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3111
By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-02 16:13:17
Link | Quote | Reply
 
25% (base) + 5% (merits) + 30% (RR) + 20% (GH) + 10% (SQ) +5% (Mantle) = 95%

If Coruscanti's +5% were affecting mainhand, I'd have 100% crit rate. But I don't.
 Cerberus.Tikal
Offline
Server: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
user: Tikal
Posts: 4945
By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-01-02 16:14:58
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Ah, forgot merits, but could've sworn base crit rate was 20% when capped.
 Bismarck.Sylow
Offline
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3111
By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-02 16:17:12
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Cerberus.Tikal said: »
Ah, forgot merits, but could've sworn base crit rate was 20% when capped.

It's highly possible I'm HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE.
[+]
 Bismarck.Cicada
Offline
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
user: Narshee
Posts: 8472
By Bismarck.Cicada 2012-01-02 16:18:22
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Bismarck.Sylow said: »
Cerberus.Tikal said: »
Ah, forgot merits, but could've sworn base crit rate was 20% when capped.

It's highly possible I'm HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE.
Imma + this.. >.> only cause it made me laugh.. not cause I think you're tarded. 8V
[+]
 Cerberus.Tikal
Offline
Server: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
user: Tikal
Posts: 4945
By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-01-02 16:18:39
Link | Quote | Reply
 
I do ***like that all the time. /comfort
 Bismarck.Sylow
Offline
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3111
By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-02 16:20:15
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Yeah, it's 20%, in which case it actually looks like Coruscanti is affecting mainhand crit rate, too.
 Bismarck.Sylow
Offline
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3111
By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-02 16:23:26
Link | Quote | Reply
 
And I just tested to be sure, I *am* able to land non-crits with the Coruscanti.
 Cerberus.Tikal
Offline
Server: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
user: Tikal
Posts: 4945
By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-01-02 16:24:46
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Wait. If you're able to land non-crits with 100% crit rate, doesn't that mean that the Crit bonus on Coruscanti doesn't work in the offhand at all?

Or do you mean it doesn't affect your main hand?
 Bismarck.Sylow
Offline
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3111
By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-02 16:25:28
Link | Quote | Reply
 
This kind of fits with what I saw against my 200 mandies in Saruta, too.

Crits: 64

Non Crits: 136
 Bismarck.Gaspee
Offline
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
user: Gaspee
Posts: 1351
By Bismarck.Gaspee 2012-01-02 16:32:48
Link | Quote | Reply
 
I like any topic that has the word "paradigms" in the title... (and with Sylow).

That is all.
[+]
 Bismarck.Sylow
Offline
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3111
By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-02 16:39:59
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Wait, I don't know, I think I'm confusing myself.

Okay.

20 (base) + 5 (merits) + 30 (RR) + 20(SS) + 10(SQ) + 5(Mantle) = 90% Before Corusc.
Corusc. (+5%) --> 95% crit rate.
 Cerberus.Tikal
Offline
Server: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
user: Tikal
Posts: 4945
By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-01-02 16:43:57
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Yeah, so... either find an additional 5% crit rate somewhere, or math it out and make sure its 5% crit rate you're missing. Mathing it out will be hard though, since you'll have to exclude all off-hand hits.
 Bismarck.Sylow
Offline
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3111
By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-02 17:01:26
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Anyway, I ran out of visitant status not paying attention but:

1418 attacks in Abyssea with 90% crit rate on Mainhand and +5% on offhand (Coruscanti):


Melee Crit Damage
Player #Crit C.Low/Hi C-0.Avg Crit%
Sylow 1351 14/274 205.79 95.28 %

Crit rate should approach the average of the two hands if the +5% is only applying to one hand (92.5%)

That's not what I'm seeing here, although I'm not sure if the sample is large enough to exclude either case.

Definitely warrants further testing. But at this stage it looks like it's affecting both hands.
 Lakshmi.Byrth
VIP
Offline
Server: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
user: Byrthnoth
Posts: 6184
By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-01-02 17:11:44
Link | Quote | Reply
 
You can force a 100% Crit rate:
Merits+Base+dDEX+Razed Ruins+Gnarled Horn+Dark Depths = 95%
95% + Coruscanti = 100%

If you crit 608 times with Something/Coruscanti, then it's a 100% crit rate on each hand.
 Bismarck.Sylow
Offline
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3111
By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-02 17:12:21
Link | Quote | Reply
 
I don't have Dark Depths :(
DNC can't wear anything from Salvage :D
 Lakshmi.Byrth
VIP
Offline
Server: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
user: Byrthnoth
Posts: 6184
By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-01-02 17:17:06
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Okay, well 1351/1418 = 95.28% +/- 1.6% (halved the sample size to compensate for only half the hits coming from Coruscanti)

Still, it looks like Coruscanti's Crit rate affects both hands. This makes me wonder about Senju and stuff.
 Bismarck.Sylow
Offline
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3111
By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-02 17:21:55
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Oh, I can try that new Kacura crap to force 100%
 Bismarck.Sylow
Offline
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3111
By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-02 17:23:58
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Or I could just get a larger sample size instead of spending 3 mil! Give me a target N!
 Cerberus.Tikal
Offline
Server: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
user: Tikal
Posts: 4945
By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-01-02 17:26:35
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Lux Purgio mainhand and another +1% critical hit rate would cap you.
 Bismarck.Sylow
Offline
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3111
By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-02 17:29:09
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Cerberus.Tikal said: »
Lux Purgio mainhand and another +1% critical hit rate would cap you.

I never got NQ dagger from Qilin, lol. I got a gorget the same run as Coruscanti, but before that I had never even gotten HMPs from him.
 Bismarck.Sylow
Offline
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3111
By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-02 18:08:55
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Anyway, gonna get ~3000 hits and see what gives.
Offline
Posts: 1285
By mortontony1 2012-01-02 18:25:01
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Pants question. I have Alcide's subligar (doesn't look like a sub thank God) for EVA, but what about normal TP set? I have Calmecac and Charis +1. Would the loss of 1 haste be made up by the 2 of DA and TA?
First Page 2 3 ... 6 7 8 ... 117 118 119
Log in to post.