The Last Dance: Gearing Paradigms For A New Age

Since we're on Exenterator subject, earrings should be Brutal/AGI3+ or Aesir?

I'm seeing bad averages with mine (Note that I'm not done with some AF3+2s yet) and was wondering what financially prudent improvements I could make. Can see my DNC spellcast HERE. Scroll down just a bit for ws sets. Belt in Exen set tends to change but I use Anguinus cuz I think I'm missing a hit or two in Exen too often for my liking.

Oh, eek, you did mention that about Drone Earring back on page 43. Well, that's good enough for me. Time to get Aesir back into my inv. Thanks for the crazy quick reply.

One follow up question. Hopped to BG but couldn't find what I was looking for as I didn't know exactly what to look for. This alpha - where do I find out more about that? Or find a ws formula that I can try to dissect?

http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/27566/the-last-dance-gearing-paradigms-for-a-new-age/43/#1786577

Should answer both questions!

@ Laffter

Page 44 of this thread features the top notch Exenterator set Sylow came up with and Page 45 features the Super Budget Exenterator. Probably easiest if you check those out and see what you could improve. So much great info in this thread, hard to pinpoint stuff at times. ^^

Edit: Pasting links is much easier than thought, now that I saw Sylow beat me to the punch. Copy + Paste ftw ^^;

WS Forumula


Damage = fTP*(WD+WSC+fSTR)*pFIF

fTP: JP call this Damage Ratio.

WD: Weapon base damage
WSC: Modifiers

WSC = WSC = floor (floor((A x A%) + (B x B%)) x α)

ignoring the floor part makes it easier to read:

(A*A% + B*B%) * α

At level 75+ α=0.85

Basically alpha just scales the stat contribution down.

So for exenterator (100%AGI)

WSC = 0.85 * AGI

fSTR is a function for your STR vs. the enemy's VIT. It caps.

pDIF is a complicated function based on attack and defense of the target. It's slightly randomized.

Looks like I'll be hittin dat VW more often soon. Thanks.

Just wanted to know since I was getting a really wide average this morning. Like 500-1800. Granted some of that is on Crawlers/Crabs with their damned Defense TP moves.

Exenterator will vary pretty wildly.

Partially because you only have a < 80% chance to land all 5 hits at capped accuracy.

Epic, this is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks a ton. The Alpha part always threw me, but if you're telling me it's static and 0.85 then I'm very happy accepting that as solid truth. :D

Just checked WSC and Weaponskill Damage on BG - and man, I'd be lost without your post. Way cool. Inching my way ever closer to understanding!

Alpha used to vary, but ever since 75 it has been a constant .85.

From looking at WSC on BG, I'm guessing that Alpha got incrementally lower as you leveled up because of rising stats. And for whatever reason they deicided to go back up to .85 after the first level cap increase?

I'll stop here tho, don't wanna derail an awesome.

Alpha is one of those things I sort of look at and go "Why?"

When it comes down to it, I can't plumb the depths of SE's mind and figure out why they randomly added alpha to the game. They obviously felt it was necessary to arbitrarily reduce WS damage as player level increased, and saw fit to do it by reducing the stat modifier component of base weapon damage.

They crazy.

Heh, actually makes me glad hearing you 2 say that. I didn't wanna bother you with further questions but looking at BG's WSC some more, I couldn't figure out the use for Alpha. I like Byrth's way of calling it "arbitrarily reduc[ing] WS damage as player level increased".

http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Exenterator

It was a buff!

byrth has good news for us. i'll let him post it and let the apprehension kill you.



edit: ffffffffffff damnit

So it's evasion down now? lol

the effect never changed, the duration did

Then why does the link byrth posted say "evasion down" and not "Accuracy down?"

probably a derp

So can we start talking new gear or is it too early?




I'm basically waiting for the "you can stop doing Pil" part XD

Tessera Saio
lvl 99
DEF:66 STR+13 DEX+13 AGI+13
Attack+17 Ranged Attack+17
"Magic Attack Bonus"+5 Haste+3%
MNK, THF, RNG, NIN, BLU, COR, PUP, DNC

That will also be from VW.

also, it's a new model!

http://www.ffxiah.com/item/10485/tessera-saio

it's this:

Just from my quick scanning, feel free to correct my opinions

This:
Kudzu Aketon
lvl 99
DEF:60 STR+10 AGI+10
Attack+13 Ranged Attack+13
"Double Attack"+3% "Store TP"+5
MNK, RDM, THF, BST, RNG, NIN, DRG, COR, PUP, DNC

VS This:
Khepri Jacket
lvl 99
DEF:64 STR+15 DEX+15 AGI+15
Accuracy+18 Ranged Accuracy+22
Adds "Regen" effect
MNK, THF, RNG, NIN, BLU, COR, DNC

For PK? Exe? Maybe ruds/evis?

Myrmex Mittens
lvl 99
DEF:28 HP+30 STR+10 DEX+7
AGI+7 Accuracy+10 Attack+10
MNK, THF, BST, RNG, NIN, BLU, COR, PUP, DNC


Mustela Gloves
lvl 96
DEF:29 STR+10 DEX+6 AGI+6
"Double Attack"+2%
Set: Increases rate of critical hits
MNK, THF, RNG, SAM, NIN, COR, PUP, DNC

dunno if either of these beat our current options for anything...especially if you're closing an SC



Ghadhab Nails
lvl 99
DEF:22 Attack+15 Enmity+5
Haste+3% Damage received +2%
WAR, RDM, THF, PLD, DRK, BST, BRD, RNG, SAM, NIN, DRG, BLU, COR, DNC


lvl 99
DEF:24 DEX+6 AGI+6
Critical hit rate +3% Haste+3%
Enhances "Snapshot" effect
MNK, THF, RNG, NIN, BLU, COR, DNC

Don't know about either of these over charis, but the second one looks better than the first for crit rate

Khepri Bonnet
lvl 99
DEF:35 STR+12 DEX+12
Accuracy+13 "Waltz" potency +8%
MNK, THF, RNG, NIN, BLU, COR, DNC

New non Exe/CF rudra WS head + AF2+2 head replacement...nuff said

Khepri Kecks
lvl 99
DEF:49 STR+12 DEX+12
Attack+10 Evasion+5 "Subtle Blow"+8
MNK, THF, RNG, NIN, BLU, COR, DNC

drool

Sthira Trousers
lvl 97
DEF:46 AGI+9 Attack+9
Enhances "Resist Silence" effect
WAR, RDM, THF, PLD, DRK, BST, BRD, RNG, SAM, NIN, DRG, BLU, COR, DNC

best exe pants?

Asklepian Ring
lvl 96
Potency of "Cure" and "Waltz"
effects received +3%
All jobs

self waltz, nuff said

Wanion Belt
lvl 99
DEF:9 STR+8 DEX+8 VIT-5
AGI-5 INT+8 MND-5
All jobs

another non Exe piece

Ghillie Earring +1
lvl 99
Accuracy+3 Attack+9 Evasion-6
All jobs

bye bye aesir

What about this in comparison to STR Thokha as offhand?

Would seem on par if not better, right? Not on yet and can't for the life of me remember Thokha's base dmg.

Aluh Jambiya Rare
[Main] All Races
DPS: 1522 DMG:51 Delay:201STR+10 VIT-10 Attack+15Increases critical hit damage
LV 99 WAR RDM THF BST BRD RNG NIN COR DNC

Delay:201

So the attack wins out over the increased STR/DEX/AGI + acc of Kapri and the DA of Kudzu?


And yeah saw that dagger and thought it would be comparable to STR thockcha...but delay kinda ruins it

Also thought this was interesting...just wish it had DMG in the mid 40s...

Pugiunculus
DPS: 1480 DMG:37 Delay:150"Triple Attack"+5%
LV 99 THF BRD DNC