The Last Dance: Gearing Paradigms For A New Age

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 Bismarck.Sylow
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-07 11:18:17
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It makes more sense then.

Your standard NA VW PUG can expect a 0-50% success rate at Rex. I think the main issue is that NA BLMs don't zerg hard enough.
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2012-03-07 11:18:43
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Idk about you, but 18 dancer alliance makes rex easy~
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-07 11:19:29
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Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: »
Idk about you, but 18 dancer alliance makes rex easy~

Real men solo Rex on DNC.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-03-07 11:21:07
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I've never won a Botulus that Chainspells more than once. Typical setup for the groups I've gone with has been something like:
1) DD party, ideally DRK, WAR, MNK, COR, BRD, SMN
2) Melee Proc Party, ideally WAR, SAM, DRG, COR, WHM, BRD
3) Magic/Ranged Proc Party, ideally RNG, BLM/SCH, BLM/DRK, RDM, COR, NIN

DD party never switches to take care of weaknesses unless it is in a weapon type that they are proficient in. For instance, GA would be both-WARs doing it. GS would be the DRK, Scythe would be the DRK, H2H would be the Monk. NIN has Katana and Ninjutsu. SAM has GKT. DRG has PLM. Second-WAR has anything he can hold that isn't covered elsewhere.

Magic/Ranged proc party has an obvious job. Do as much damage as you can while proccing when appropriate. It is important for melee to be honest about their accuracy. Typically even high-Acc DDs require Pizza to cap Acc on Botulus.

They changed proc behavior on Botulus last patch to make him easier, so if your experiences were mostly pre-patch then he's considerably easier now. You can force NQ staggers to upgrade to HQ staggers if they're done while a monster is casting or TPing, but this wasn't the case for Botulus or Ig-Alima until the last patch. That made it a lot harder, because there were many fewer full-temp restores.
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2012-03-07 11:21:59
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Bismarck.Sylow said: »
Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: »
Idk about you, but 18 dancer alliance makes rex easy~

Real men solo Rex on DNC.
That awkward moment when you realise you've been playing the game wrong for years
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By Shiva.Galbir 2012-03-07 11:22:05
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Bismarck.Sylow said: »
Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: »
Idk about you, but 18 dancer alliance makes rex easy~

Real men solo Rex on DRK.
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By Fupafighters 2012-03-07 11:25:58
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Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
I've never won a Botulus that Chainspells more than once. Typical setup for the groups I've gone with has been something like:
1) DD party, ideally DRK, WAR, MNK, COR, BRD, SMN
2) Melee Proc Party, ideally WAR, SAM, DRG, COR, WHM, BRD
3) Magic/Ranged Proc Party, ideally RNG, BLM/SCH, BLM/DRK, RDM, COR, NIN

DD party never switches to take care of weaknesses unless it is in a weapon type that they are proficient in. For instance, GA would be both-WARs doing it. GS would be the DRK, Scythe would be the DRK, H2H would be the Monk. NIN has Katana and Ninjutsu. SAM has GKT. DRG has PLM. Second-WAR has anything he can hold that isn't covered elsewhere.

1 stagger and and you get another fools. Don't use fools unless you see chainspell and you should be fine. I personally haven't seen a mnk on botolus, or rng.
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By Phoenix.Lillicarnage 2012-03-07 17:42:10
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Supernal >.> That is sadly the coolest thing I have gotten from voidwatch so far.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-07 17:44:28
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It's a really common drop D:
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-07 17:47:49
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Too common D:
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By Phoenix.Lillicarnage 2012-03-07 17:57:06
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Two people in my LS have gotten Athos :<

I hate everything!
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-07 18:08:02
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I think athos is a pretty common drop too, to be honest.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Dova 2012-03-07 18:11:55
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Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: »
Idk about you, but 18 dancer alliance makes rex easy~

You have more than 5 dancers on your server you would take to rex o.O!?
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-07 18:15:12
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I'm not sure there are 18 dancers across all servers I'd take to Rex.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Dova 2012-03-07 18:15:57
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LOL. Way to crush that ray of light that was starting to beam for me
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-07 18:31:16
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Budget Exenterator

Avoids expensive stuff and voidwatch drops.
Lolyi's gorget doesn't count as a voidwatch drop.

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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-03-07 18:48:36
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Lithe boots and Solemn ring are super much cheaper.
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2012-03-07 18:57:11
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Eurus' ledelsens if you don't need that DEX.
Or Areion's Gamashes when the STR may be required~?
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-07 19:05:45
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Eurus is the same price as Scopuli on my server, but I think I may change it to Lithe or Areion.

Areion probably beats Lithe.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-07 19:08:48
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I gotta admit though...Areion's Gamashes...I didn't know they existed.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-07 19:10:39
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Super Budget Exenterator

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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2012-03-07 19:14:10
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Bismarck.Sylow said: »
I gotta admit though...Areion's Gamashes...I didn't know they existed.

I only think they were Relevant to blu I think for the 90 cap period, I always forgot I had them myself lol.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-07 19:16:41
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Actually wait, I take it back, Lithe should win.

5 3 2.5 <---> 6
5 2.5 <---> 3
2.5 <--> 1.75

0 <--> 0.92

Lithe are slightly better.
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By Phoenix.Lillicarnage 2012-03-07 19:27:04
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Would I be a bad person if I use this supernal knife in Abyssea?

I don't have Twash*, my 2 usual daggers are STR and AGI Thokchas.
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By Fupafighters 2012-03-07 19:41:47
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Can't wait for my damn str thokcha lol. 1 more fire day to do 300 bird and I should be done :D
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-07 19:56:40
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Phoenix.Lillicarnage said: »
Would I be a bad person if I use this supernal knife in Abyssea?

I don't have Twash*, my 2 usual daggers are STR and AGI Thokchas.

It's Abyssea. Use swords for all it really matters.
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2012-03-07 20:08:18
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Bismarck.Sylow said: »
Phoenix.Lillicarnage said: »
Would I be a bad person if I use this supernal knife in Abyssea?

I don't have Twash*, my 2 usual daggers are STR and AGI Thokchas.

It's Abyssea. Use swords for all it really matters.
And here I respected you.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-03-07 20:08:48
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/WAR gets vorpal blade!
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-07 20:11:14
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
/WAR gets vorpal blade!

Also sanguine blade so you can fulltime saber dance.
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By Phoenix.Lillicarnage 2012-03-07 20:12:45
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Sometimes I offhand Verdun with my Joyeuse so people think I have TWO JOYEUSES.
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