The Last Dance: Gearing Paradigms For A New Age

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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-26 02:31:57
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IMO people will eventually get off the Tactician's Train and start using Chaos again when they realize how much Tactician's isn't actually buying them, but whatever.
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2012-01-26 02:33:28
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how much is chaos going to affect a wildfire cor?
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-26 02:34:59
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If only parses could add the extra damage resulting from buffs to the damage of the buffer.
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2012-01-26 02:37:05
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2 rolls that can last how long? and you are worried about that? you are really stretching it now.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-26 02:37:05
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Anyway, the type of hypothetical build your proposing which may or may not be possible and certainly isn't possible all the time, doesn't currently apply to any in-game content.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-26 02:37:53
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Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: »
2 rolls that can last how long? and you are worried about that? you are really stretching it now.

What I mean was the potential boost from COR buffs outweighs the extra 1-2 wildfires.
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2012-01-26 02:38:10
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Bismarck.Sylow said: »
Anyway, the type of hypothetical build your proposing which may or may not be possible and certainly isn't possible all the time, doesn't currently apply to any in-game content.
why not? im sure it's highly useful in dyna NM farming.
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2012-01-26 02:39:38
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Bismarck.Sylow said: »
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2 rolls that can last how long? and you are worried about that? you are really stretching it now.

What I mean was the potential boost from COR buffs outweighs the extra 1-2 wildfires.
you are again applying this to large groups (which you would not be doing this anyways, i've said this 3 times now), what happened to low man or duo?
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-26 02:40:01
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In which case there will be other people there fighting, and therefore weaponskilling, interfering with your attempts to create melee-chains.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-26 02:41:07
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Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: »
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Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: »
2 rolls that can last how long? and you are worried about that? you are really stretching it now.

What I mean was the potential boost from COR buffs outweighs the extra 1-2 wildfires.
you are again applying this to large groups (which you would not be doing this anyways, i've said this 3 times now), what happened to low man or duo?

Having fought Dynamis NMs, even at 99, you're going to be hard-pressed to low-man them.
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2012-01-26 02:41:46
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Bismarck.Sylow said: »
In which case there will be other people there fighting, and therefore weaponskilling, interfering with your attempts to create melee-chains.
perhaps figuring out a chain that includes the other ONE person in your party has become too complicated in today's ffxi
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2012-01-26 02:43:23
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Bismarck.Sylow said: »
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Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: »
2 rolls that can last how long? and you are worried about that? you are really stretching it now.

What I mean was the potential boost from COR buffs outweighs the extra 1-2 wildfires.
you are again applying this to large groups (which you would not be doing this anyways, i've said this 3 times now), what happened to low man or duo?

Having fought Dynamis NMs, even at 99, you're going to be hard-pressed to low-man them.
the lost NMs (qufim)? or the other typical money NMs? what are you including DL? ADL?
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-26 02:44:32
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I figured you must have meant lost NMs, because the regular NMs aren't all that much harder than the normal mobs, and by the time they're proc'd, you should be able to kill them in 2 WS.

ADL is a PD fight.
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2012-01-26 02:45:32
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Bismarck.Sylow said: »
I figured you must have meant lost NMs, because the regular NMs aren't all that much harder than the normal mobs, and by the time they're proc'd, you should be able to kill them in 2 WS.

ADL is a PD fight.
then yes they are quite doable lowman >.>;;; if anything the one i see that could be a kill joy is stringes
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-26 02:47:21
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I figured you must have meant lost NMs, because the regular NMs aren't all that much harder than the normal mobs, and by the time they're proc'd, you should be able to kill them in 2 WS.

ADL is a PD fight.
then yes they are quite doable lowman >.>;;; if anything the one i see that could be a kill joy is stringes

With what? On DNC? I suppose if you're playing more defensively. But then, we've once again killed your build.
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2012-01-26 02:49:17
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Bismarck.Sylow said: »
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I figured you must have meant lost NMs, because the regular NMs aren't all that much harder than the normal mobs, and by the time they're proc'd, you should be able to kill them in 2 WS.

ADL is a PD fight.
then yes they are quite doable lowman >.>;;; if anything the one i see that could be a kill joy is stringes

With what? On DNC? I suppose if you're playing more defensively. But then, we've once again killed your build.
for nm's like that you'd need a mage to keep you playing offensively, we are now at 3 players. 4 if you want th. still very much a low man and still includes this mindset.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-26 02:51:48
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The Lost NMs will pretty much require you to sub NIN and/or use evasion gear (probably both).

They hit reallllllllyyy harrrdddd.
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2012-01-26 02:54:37
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Bismarck.Sylow said: »
The Lost NMs will pretty much require you to sub NIN and/or use evasion gear (probably both).

They hit reallllllllyyy harrrdddd.
i know they do, but they should not be able to one shot you with the exception of stringes, there is something incredibly *** up with that bat.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-26 02:57:39
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Tree can one-shot you with leafstorm. I'm sure the golem can one-shot you. Regular Fairy Ring can hand you your ***. Lost Nan'Tina spams 2k WS then charms. I'm sure the lost dragons in Bubu can *** you up, but I've no experience with them.
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2012-01-26 03:00:10
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Bismarck.Sylow said: »
Tree can one-shot you with leafstorm. I'm sure the golem can one-shot you. Regular Fairy Ring can hand you your ***. Lost Nan'Tina spams 2k WS then charms. I'm sure the lost dragons in Bubu can *** you up, but I've no experience with them.
golem isnt that bad, the dragons in bubu i can attest to though, i'll pass on that. leafstorm should be easy to get around if you had proper buffs.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-26 03:01:06
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"Proper Buffs"?
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2012-01-26 03:05:23
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shell, baraera etc etc
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-26 03:06:41
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It'a a 3-hit physical AoE attack from Treants. No clue why it's a wind spell for BLU.
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2012-01-26 03:08:58
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Bismarck.Sylow said: »
It'a a 3-hit physical AoE attack from Treants. No clue why it's a wind spell for BLU.
i do not remember fan reducing it's damage
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-26 03:09:54
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It definitely does.
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2012-01-26 03:11:47
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if thats the case i got nothing for that then.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-26 03:15:03
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I don't know how Lost Stringes/Scolopendra are, they could be better or worse.

I also don't know about the city/northland dyna NMs, they could be better.

Quadav/Kindred/Hydra have disgusting defense though, so blech.
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2012-01-26 03:18:05
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you know (off subject). now that i think about it. why did dnc have to farm quadav for a testimony anyways? i mean thats like going after a rock with 2 butter knives.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-26 03:19:44
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I actually know the answer to that.

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It so happened that in those days, mountainfolk from the hinterlands of the Gustaberg region would sometimes travel to Bastok to peddle medicinal herbs. The quelling of the near-maniacal outbreaks of saturnalia would find its form in the native dancers of these tribes. With no hesitation despite the apparent dangers of contagion to themselves, they would roam the city streets and visit barracks, displaying the aggressive yet graceful steps of their people's traditional dance, the Kriegstanz, with a timeless elegance. The majestic rhythms pounded out by these confident women and their motions, full of life, captivated observers instantaneously. And it was not long before the morose Totentanz rituals faded away as quickly as they had come. Some years later, the significant role the dancers played in the defeat of the deadly epidemic which claimed so many Bastokan lives was commemorated by the president in a now famous speech: "Though none can deny the scientific strides made by our great alchemists in curing this foul plague, praise is due also to those fearless masters of dance who came to us in our most dire hour. For it was their impassioned artistry that delivered us from the tyranny of this most lethal of epidemics, and the terror which had fast gripped our very hearts." And so it was that the dancers came to be credited with ending the Bastokan Blight.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-26 03:21:25
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for nostalgia

edit: wtf, is she wielding Asteria?
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