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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2011-12-18 23:00:27
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Well thanks to the new Periapt of Clarity we can know 100% it's ninjutsu and not blackmagic.

So, Earth/Dark/Water/Ice Ninjutsu is pretty much our debuffs which is very very very hard to land on some of the higher Teirs.

You can get aceitics tonic, that helps sometimes
Can lower it's resistance with Elemental Ninjutsu's.

I tried looking into Magic Accuracy for Ninja, it's insanely limited minus doing Trial Katana's with Magic Accuracy.

Here's a decent set...
Ammo can be the Chakram from AV (+8 acc)
I have 2 MAB katana's which is +22INT together


Any other imputs about landing the debuffs accurately?
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By Odin.Calipso 2011-12-18 23:04:07
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Why not Relic feet +1/+2?
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2011-12-18 23:07:28
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Yeah skill +12 but
Need ANY magic accuracy right?
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2011-12-18 23:07:46
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What I use. Other than the book I assume it's the best currently.

I almost never get resisted on any VWNM with ascetic's unless it's something like Kurayami on Pil
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By Odin.Calipso 2011-12-18 23:15:38
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Someone might wanna specify the finer points of magic vs xxx skill, but I'm certain 10-12-15 ninjutsu skill is better than 3 macc :P

Ninjutsu skill first, the magic acc in slots you can't find ninjutsu skill, followed by INT.
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By Ragnarok.Kanryu 2011-12-18 23:15:50
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Stealth/Ninjutsu Earrings would be better for pure accuracy purposes. Angha or Balrahn's ring instead of Diamond. Artemis Medal depending on moon phase would probably beat out Ninja Torque but I'm not sure. Personally I still use Koga Sarashi but there is that new +5 Ninjutsu belt from the new KCNMs that has potential.

Other than that Relic feet of any sort should beat Denali.
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2011-12-18 23:18:38
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Odin.Llewelyn said: »


What I use. Other than the book I assume it's the best currently.

I almost never get resisted on any VWNM with ascetic's unless it's something like Kurayami on Pil

Have you fought any Teir 4/5/6's?
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2011-12-18 23:20:33
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Not on Ninja, no. But if you'd like I can do Ninja on Ig-Alima right now and give you the results in about 30 minutes.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-12-18 23:22:03
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Odin.Llewelyn said: »


What I use. Other than the book I assume it's the best currently.

I almost never get resisted on any VWNM with ascetic's unless it's something like Kurayami on Pil
Basically this. I use Sangoma Lappa instead of Denali in the leg slot, which is equal or slightly better depending on dINT, but with a good setup you shouldn't have much trouble landing anything unless the NM is just very resistant to that element or enfeeble. If that's the case, you might as well be using haste gear.
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2011-12-18 23:26:28
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Ninjutsu>INT>MACC?
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-12-18 23:35:16
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ninjutsu = macc >= INT

ITT: macc 101
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2011-12-19 00:20:08
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Says INT=Black Magic

IS there no stat for ninjutsu then?
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2011-12-30 02:19:20
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What weapon be better to stick? 2 MATK or HQ staves?
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2011-12-30 02:35:54
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Staves
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2011-12-30 02:45:07
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how that T6 go?

edit: i did one recently with a makeshift enfeeb set

got aisha/hojohi on pretty decently.
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2011-12-30 03:23:36
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Think Ig-Alima might resist water or something, I don't know. Aisha/Dokumori had troubles landing but Hojo was fine.
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2011-12-30 04:00:00
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Well hojo is fine when the Ukons stop landing slow :<
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By Phoenix.Chomeymatt 2011-12-30 04:30:55
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Balrahn's Ring included if you have that as well.
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2012-02-14 16:27:28
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I just recently fight Ig-alima again with a pretty decent build again
Water ninjutsu had no problem landing
Hojo landed once the ukons stoped (lol)
Kura/Yurin landed easily
Jubaku is still the hardest to land, on anything(t4~)

Main thing is my 2 MAB (+22int) katana's helped more than HQ staff

But I'm wondering if 1 MAB katana + 1 MAGACC katana will be even better

INT+11 MAB+11 MP+60 MAGACC 15~
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-02-14 16:35:24
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Two MAcc Katanas would be the best for you.
http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Magic_Accuracy

You are probably seeing a large boost from your 11 INT Katanas because your dINT is below 10, making them equivalent to +22 MAcc. Still though, 2x MAcc Katanas would be +30 MAcc. There is no point where adding base stat increases MAcc more than just adding MAcc. HQ Staves are only +15 MAcc, which explains why they don't stack up.


I don't know what stat goes with Jubaku. It is possible that it is MND instead of INT, but then I would expect the same for Slow.
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2012-02-14 16:36:42
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Bismarck.Rinomaru said: »
I just recently fight Ig-alima again with a pretty decent build again
Water ninjutsu had no problem landing
Hojo landed once the ukons stoped (lol)
Kura/Yurin landed easily
Jubaku is still the hardest to land, on anything(t4~)

Main thing is my 2 MAB (+22int) katana's helped more than HQ staff

But I'm wondering if 1 MAB katana + 1 MAGACC katana will be even better

INT+11 MAB+11 MP+60 MAGACC 15~

so what your asking is if 11 int is > 15 macc? id say no. but i'm sure night will correct me with dInt on higher tier nms. but 4 more acc should pull it ahead no?
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2012-02-14 19:26:52
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Well with Huton:San, and ice shot with my build Jubaku was resisted
Did SE implement the "They wont resist staggers" anymore?
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2012-02-14 19:31:47
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Don't think it was announced, no :/
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2012-02-14 19:46:27
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Jubaku, always causing problems..
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2012-02-14 19:49:52
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Needs more Jubaku: ni (I know it's been said a millionfifillionshubbledoodledoo times) :<
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By Siren.Kyte 2012-02-14 20:17:48
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Leviathan.Phenomena said: »
Bismarck.Rinomaru said: »
I just recently fight Ig-alima again with a pretty decent build again
Water ninjutsu had no problem landing
Hojo landed once the ukons stoped (lol)
Kura/Yurin landed easily
Jubaku is still the hardest to land, on anything(t4~)

Main thing is my 2 MAB (+22int) katana's helped more than HQ staff

But I'm wondering if 1 MAB katana + 1 MAGACC katana will be even better

INT+11 MAB+11 MP+60 MAGACC 15~

so what your asking is if 11 int is > 15 macc? id say no. but i'm sure night will correct me with dInt on higher tier nms. but 4 more acc should pull it ahead no?

11 INT can never provide more magic accuracy than 15 MACC. At best it can be 11.
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2012-02-14 21:19:33
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2 Macc katana's comin right up....
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