It really isn't an easy answer. I think that new Nyzul could actually be difficult if done right, but that is no competition.
I miss that fire of competition. The wait and the cheating/botting w/e you want to call it was just lame.
I don't know a solution to the problem now. It seems like it may be too big of a problem to solve and just have to keep patching the wound until it can't be managed any longer.
[Dev] Final Limit Break Quest
[Dev] Final Limit Break Quest
looking forward to seeing if SE releases any statement over their change in the morning.
Probably will ignore us or just say no in a long worded way.
Probably will ignore us or just say no in a long worded way.
Siren.Kalilla said: »
I miss that fire of competition. The wait and the cheating/botting w/e you want to call it was just lame.
That was one of the best aspects for me. I delighted in claiming over bot using LS's. DA was just dumb. However, DI/SW model at least leveled the playing field somewhat.
As much as I would savor Nyzul 2.0 being a true challenge the majority of the player base would rage if they didn't have instant access to what ever shinies it's going to drop. I think the only way we'll ever get a real challenge again is for the two playing paths to diverge.
SE needs to make one content path for the casual community, and one for the hard core.
Voidwatch isn't cutting it. Only thing truly hard in VW is actually getting a rare drop instead of a log.
I'm pretty sure it's going to be floors 101-200, they will already have to have access to 100 if I'm correct.
Or they are just going to replace everything from 1-100 and make it lame. It might not be lame but the idea is just lame when they could add more floors.
Personally want more floors :\
Also, the only way that would be able to work is if the rewards on each side were equal. Even at the end. People would cry and whine til it was changed and SE wouldn't want to mess with that.
Would like to see more challenges. Like... an army of behemoths spawn and attack your group.
yea, that sounds like fun for me!
Or they are just going to replace everything from 1-100 and make it lame. It might not be lame but the idea is just lame when they could add more floors.
Personally want more floors :\
Also, the only way that would be able to work is if the rewards on each side were equal. Even at the end. People would cry and whine til it was changed and SE wouldn't want to mess with that.
Would like to see more challenges. Like... an army of behemoths spawn and attack your group.
yea, that sounds like fun for me!
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Speaking of behemoth I would like to see a new version soon where it can't be kited around. Would probably only fit VW but not sure.
I wouldn't expect Nyzul to be that easy, upgrading from base to +5 is prolly gonna take a while. That said, the "hardcore community" isn't large enough to warrant catering to at this point of the games life cycle. Thats just the way it is.
I personally could care less about the difficulty of the 99 level cap, if its hard, ok, if its not, whatever. I'm looking forward to the new nyzul and other non-proc content. Not because of how difficult it may or may not be, but because its finally going to filter out the sense of "jobism" that has overcome the community, and people will be allowed to have fun again.
I personally could care less about the difficulty of the 99 level cap, if its hard, ok, if its not, whatever. I'm looking forward to the new nyzul and other non-proc content. Not because of how difficult it may or may not be, but because its finally going to filter out the sense of "jobism" that has overcome the community, and people will be allowed to have fun again.
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Yea I'm not really concerned about the difficulty all that much, I like what is coming for new content so it will be fine for me atm.
The only content I really am expecting to be challenging are the new Wyrms SE have announced.
So far they have only shown what Light might look like, but I really want to see those.
Not sure where they would be able to spawn...
Probably won't be random like the other wyrms and be a pop for some event. Even if it is that then it will be okay I guess. I'm glad we get to fight the rest finally.
Thunder wyrm should be badass :O
So far they have only shown what Light might look like, but I really want to see those.
Not sure where they would be able to spawn...
Probably won't be random like the other wyrms and be a pop for some event. Even if it is that then it will be okay I guess. I'm glad we get to fight the rest finally.
Thunder wyrm should be badass :O
i wanna see light one D:
Siren.Kalilla said: »
The only content I really am expecting to be challenging are the new Wyrms SE have announced.
So far they have only shown what Light might look like, but I really want to see those.
Not sure where they would be able to spawn...
Probably won't be random like the other wyrms and be a pop for some event. Even if it is that then it will be okay I guess. I'm glad we get to fight the rest finally.
Thunder wyrm should be badass :O
So far they have only shown what Light might look like, but I really want to see those.
Not sure where they would be able to spawn...
Probably won't be random like the other wyrms and be a pop for some event. Even if it is that then it will be okay I guess. I'm glad we get to fight the rest finally.
Thunder wyrm should be badass :O
I could be completely wrong but didn't one of the CS in the CoP line show all the wyrms?
Fenrir.Yuriki said: »
Siren.Kalilla said: »
The only content I really am expecting to be challenging are the new Wyrms SE have announced.
So far they have only shown what Light might look like, but I really want to see those.
Not sure where they would be able to spawn...
Probably won't be random like the other wyrms and be a pop for some event. Even if it is that then it will be okay I guess. I'm glad we get to fight the rest finally.
Thunder wyrm should be badass :O
So far they have only shown what Light might look like, but I really want to see those.
Not sure where they would be able to spawn...
Probably won't be random like the other wyrms and be a pop for some event. Even if it is that then it will be okay I guess. I'm glad we get to fight the rest finally.
Thunder wyrm should be badass :O
I could be completely wrong but didn't one of the CS in the CoP line show all the wyrms?
I'm pretty sure there wasn't any secret ones there :x
Sylph.Sukasaroth said: »
i wanna see light one D:
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Easier then maat >.> I remember trying to get all prepared for SMN maat fight and was all wish me luck and being all nervous and 90 sec later. say wtf that is it ? So what is the fight gonna be like. Your six person party enters the fight all of you yell BOOO and he falls over dead? Least make it a challenge. I am figuring the mad rush trying to claim the to weak mobs for the drop item will be more of challenge then the fight it self. Remember fighting over gobs for ACP like they were a HNM popping ? Hope SE listens even though like others have said they wont.
To be honest, I'd rather just turn in my 20 merits, some *** item that I can get before the update, log in, turn it in, and get on with my life.
Carbuncle.Asymptotic said: »
To be honest, I'd rather just turn in my 20 merits, some *** item that I can get before the update, log in, turn it in, and get on with my life.
I dont have faith in SE being able to execute this level cap fight properly, so yeah, I would rather just get it over with as fast as the previous caps have been.
They can even throw in a poop mage for all I care.
less challenging then Maat fight? wait Maat fight was hard???
oh, silly SE, you make me laugh
oh, silly SE, you make me laugh
Bismarck.Klimzar said: »
less challenging then Maat fight? wait Maat fight was hard???
oh, silly SE, you make me laugh
oh, silly SE, you make me laugh
For certain jobs @ level 70 back in the day, yes it was pretty damned hard. I remember RDMs and WARs, in particular, complaining about the difficulty level. This was a really long time ago ... but yes, Maat was a beast, once upon a time.
Bahamut.Krizz said: »
Bismarck.Elanabelle said: »
Examples (totally hypothetical): WAR, RDM, RNG, BLU, DNC @ Waughroon; MNK, BLM, PLD, DRK, COR @ Qu'Bia; THF, WHM, NIN, DRG, PUP @ Horlais; SAM, BST, BRD, SMN, SCH @ Giddeus.
Sure it can. Players would still be allowed to enter the battlefield with 1 to 6 players, but only the assigned jobs for the specific arena would be able to enter at that site. In other words (using the semi-random hypothetical groupings I posted above), one could do a party of WAR/WAR/WAR/BLU/RDM/DNC ... or just WAR/WAR/RDM ... but one couldn't add a PLD or SCH to the mix, because those jobs are assigned to a different arena/zone.
It's just an idea!
It's monday, and of course SE has responded.
Also I have no idea what it says ~.~... Camate get to work!
whatever it is, it has 130 likes lol
Also I have no idea what it says ~.~... Camate get to work!
whatever it is, it has 130 likes lol
Oh yea they are pushing the date back a few days to get enough time to make the changes.
From what translators make out, there will be more than one item now, and split over the zone/s with a high drop rate from high-level monsters.
Random and doesn't seem right: You don't need to keep getting items, and can spend merits(?) if you lose to retry. (That doesn't seem right, but it seems the only thing multiple translators have in common)
Random and doesn't seem right: You don't need to keep getting items, and can spend merits(?) if you lose to retry. (That doesn't seem right, but it seems the only thing multiple translators have in common)
Yea, I'm not sure why there are 2 items now
Maybe 1 for an easy fight and one for a hard fight to please everyone?
Would they actually do that? lol...
Maybe 1 for an easy fight and one for a hard fight to please everyone?
Would they actually do that? lol...
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/17396-最後の限界クエについて（ややネタバレ）?p=237515#post237515
Here is the post if anyone is interested
Here is the post if anyone is interested
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Bismarck.Elanabelle said: »
Bismarck.Klimzar said: »
less challenging then Maat fight? wait Maat fight was hard???
oh, silly SE, you make me laugh
oh, silly SE, you make me laugh
For certain jobs @ level 70 back in the day, yes it was pretty damned hard. I remember RDMs and WARs, in particular, complaining about the difficulty level. This was a really long time ago ... but yes, Maat was a beast, once upon a time.
I remember winning on rdm first try was considered awesome back in the day and gave me bragging rights.
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I think it will be a simple balance thing.
Easy fight = hard item to get
Hard fight = easy item to get
not sure, can't wait for the translation .-.
Easy fight = hard item to get
Hard fight = easy item to get
not sure, can't wait for the translation .-.
Siren.Kalilla said: »
I think it will be a simple balance thing.
Easy fight = hard item to get
Hard fight = easy item to get
not sure, can't wait for the translation .-.
Easy fight = hard item to get
Hard fight = easy item to get
not sure, can't wait for the translation .-.
yea i think you are right, it also mentions something about easy fight = solo fight now, instead of a party.
also screw all you complainers! update just got pushed back cause of this :|
Fairy.Ghaleon said: »
Siren.Kalilla said: »
I think it will be a simple balance thing.
Easy fight = hard item to get
Hard fight = easy item to get
not sure, can't wait for the translation .-.
Easy fight = hard item to get
Hard fight = easy item to get
not sure, can't wait for the translation .-.
yea i think you are right, it also mentions something about easy fight = solo fight now, instead of a party.
also screw all you complainers! update just got pushed back cause of this :|
Solo? That would be interesting
There's an item needed to enter the BC, and an optional "weakening" item that presumably works in the same way as a lot of the CoP mission items worked (limits boss TP moves, etc). The BC is designed to be beaten by 6 people without the item, but can be done with less with the item. And the item takes time to prepare making, whereas without it you can enter immediately.
Should you fail the BC, the BC entry item won't be needed again, instead it'll probably cost merit points to reenter (or possibly seals, but they're thinking merits).
Should you fail the BC, the BC entry item won't be needed again, instead it'll probably cost merit points to reenter (or possibly seals, but they're thinking merits).
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