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By Odin.Hitoseijuro 2011-11-30 23:48:51
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Shijin Spiral : 5 hit ws, additiona effect: Plague. Tp modifies the chances of plague.

Dex mod, 5/5 merits is said to be a 100% Mod.

That being said I thought for people thinking of unlocking this ws for whatever reason might consider a build like this:


note: Prosilio/Justicier pieces for low attack buffs/berserk down. Athos gloves for high buffs/non-high def mob.

My main overall goal with this build was balance, I didnt go all out on mod gear pieces outside of pieces that contained a good enough boost. The other slots I filled in with attack and accuracy.

Not sure if this warrants a new thread, but I didnt want to hi-jack the smite thread, and people who are interested will post and help, those not will not.


Additional builds: So I realize that this top build focus more on high-tier gear. Not everyone has access/time for that nor the gil for that. That being said Im hoping the next 2 pieces(mid level, lower level) builds are reasonable for people.

Hito, I dont have gil to spend nor do I do VW, what can I substitute for now til I do??
Mid-level


Hito I dont do salvage nor plan to, Im limited on abyssea aswell or drops just dont drop.
Lower-level


Notes: I know KO has more dex/str over Usukane and nice augments, but I chose Usukane over that for the +12 accuracy as the acc was lower in that build. I chose shura kabuto for that, as the only available head piece without accounting for VW/Abyssea was +6, I think the NQs +2% ws would be better than 6 dex along side the accuracy and str/att. If you dont have shura, go with the +6 dex piece or if you already have, go with A.bonnet.

If you have victory smite, I wouldnt consider Shijin if you cant have access to higher tier gear. Medium tier probably wont cut it if you have VS.

Hope to get some helpful critiques on the 2 builds again, with reasonable understanding of why the build are set how they are.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-11-30 23:53:58
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Why TP bonus?
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By Odin.Hitoseijuro 2011-12-01 00:01:22
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Ugh, its plague effect isnt it, why would you do this SE...

I guess a +4 dex earring should do it, 4str earring was comparible if not slighlty better than +7 earring iirc.

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By Odin.Eikechi 2011-12-01 00:03:14
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
Why TP bonus?

Cuz plague is awesome... :P
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2011-12-01 00:04:36
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Why Mantis Eye?
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-12-01 00:06:22
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Do we know the fTP of it?

Also probably black tathlum I'd guess or thunder sachet.
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By Odin.Minefield 2011-12-01 00:07:14
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Being DEX mod, Mithra could put pretty decent use to this~ yayz :3

I hope it does some awesome damage overall, because by god it looks gorgeous, I wanna use it over and over and over and over and over!
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By Odin.Hitoseijuro 2011-12-01 00:09:15
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Siren.Thoraeon said: »
Why Mantis Eye?
Its a 5hit ws, you're going to want to have a high accuracy rating. Theres nothing else I can think of outside of black tathlum and thew bomblet anyhow.

1 dex may or may not give you a base damage increase. Thew bomblet gives +10attack, so its really comes down to your accuracy. We have agg/focus combo but lack 2h-dex conversion thus all that dex/acc is probably just around the same accuracy we already have on a smite build probably(give or take).

The rate that you proc on VWs and obtain drinks, may or maybe not affect needing accuracy.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-12-01 00:10:29
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If it's 100%, you'll get one WSC per DEX.
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By Fenrir.Skadoosh 2011-12-01 00:10:46
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Demonry core!
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-12-01 00:12:16
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Fenrir.Skadoosh said: »
Demonry core!
Buying that crap now before it goes up to 3M.
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By Odin.Hitoseijuro 2011-12-01 00:14:00
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
If it's 100%, you'll get one WSC per DEX.
146 dex *.85(alpha seems to be the same at 99) = 124

147 dex* .85 = 124

Just for reference.

Obviously since its a mod, we can calculate for ourselves to see if we get anything.



Fenrir.Skadoosh said: »
Demonry core!
I hadnt thought of that D: thanks

Demonry Core vs Black tathlum???
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-12-01 00:14:58
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
If it's 100%, you'll get one WSC per DEX.
Alpha still applies, so 0.85 base damage floored.

Accuracy will probably be pretty decent given the DEX mod, but Mantis Eye is definitely an easy and efficient swap... Beats the hell out of awkward ***like a 100% MND mod.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-12-01 00:16:00
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
If it's 100%, you'll get one WSC per DEX.
Alpha still applies, so 0.85 base damage floored.
I completely forgot about that, yeah.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-12-01 00:26:11
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Pretty!

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By Odin.Hitoseijuro 2011-12-01 01:33:04
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Updated with some other choices in gear for people without access/gil for higher tier gear.
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By Asura.Fuxi 2011-12-15 18:47:36
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Anyone get good results from Shinji Spiral now that the updates out? From what I've seen doesn't beat Ascetic's Fury or Victory Smite inside aby.
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By Creecreelo 2011-12-15 18:50:14
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Asura.Fuxi said: »
Anyone get good results from Shinji Spiral now that the updates out? From what I've seen doesn't beat Ascetic's Fury or Victory Smite inside aby.

I never would've guessed.
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By Asura.Fuxi 2011-12-15 18:58:11
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Creecreelo said: »
Asura.Fuxi said: »
Anyone get good results from Shinji Spiral now that the updates out? From what I've seen doesn't beat Ascetic's Fury or Victory Smite inside aby.

I never would've guessed.
lol granted, but anyone get results about outside then? I havn't really had a chance to test it outside of a exp pt.
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By Shiva.Alistrianna 2011-12-15 21:50:30
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Melee Gaiters +2 have STR/DEX +7 on them. There are also hands with all stats +7 and Enhacnes WS dmg depending on day in the update that might be good for this WS.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-12-15 22:09:04
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The bonus is specifically for elemental WS. Should come out pretty similar to Hachi hands though aside from the loss of accuracy.
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By Cerberus.Watanabie 2011-12-15 22:27:56
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What ele gorget/belt is Shijin alligned with?
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By Bahamut.Mizuharu 2011-12-15 22:33:17
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It's Fusion/Reverberation; so Flame/Light/Water

Dragon Kick > Shijin Spiral = Light (Frag + Fusion)

Rampage > Shijin Spiral = Reververation (Scission + Reverberation)
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By Cerberus.Watanabie 2011-12-15 22:33:58
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Thanks!
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By Odin.Eikechi 2011-12-16 03:42:34
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I still say this WS is moreso made for pup, with the dex mod. Pup gets some insane dex gear and a high dex base. Mine is only 1/5 so far, so I can't give ya good numbers yet though :(.
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By Cerberus.Watanabie 2011-12-17 09:38:30
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At 5/5 seems considerably more consistent than Ascetic's.
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By Shiva.Alcadias 2011-12-17 19:18:07
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Odin.Eikechi said: »
I still say this WS is moreso made for pup, with the dex mod. Pup gets some insane dex gear and a high dex base. Mine is only 1/5 so far, so I can't give ya good numbers yet though :(.
Do you think you could post a gear set? because idk what good dex pieces there are for pup aside from Toci's and ocelomeh headpiece.
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By Shiva.Kollosis 2011-12-17 21:45:52
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By Shiva.Galbir 2011-12-17 21:51:08
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Shiva.Alcadias said: »
Odin.Eikechi said: »
I still say this WS is moreso made for pup, with the dex mod. Pup gets some insane dex gear and a high dex base. Mine is only 1/5 so far, so I can't give ya good numbers yet though :(.
Do you think you could post a gear set? because idk what good dex pieces there are for pup aside from Toci's and ocelomeh headpiece.
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