[dev1049] New Weapon Skills (yes, All Of Them)

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By Leviathan.Draugo 2011-11-30 16:34:39
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Wait wait wait..... Axe gets the WS that has throwing stars on it?

/sad
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By Cerberus.Taint 2011-11-30 16:35:27
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Asura.Leonlionheart said: »
For the QQ'ers DRG/SAM (Abyssea, w/ Cruor Buffs, RR/SS/Apoc) Vougier's Contus: 2434(103+123 STR, 784 Attack, 112 TP) 2443(103+123 STR, 784 Attack, 101 TP) 3238(103+123 STR, 784 Attack, 121 TP) 1566(103+69 STR, ??? Attack, 101 TP) 3455(103+69 STR, ??? Attack, 141 TP) probably TA 1322(103+69 STR, ??? Attack, 104 TP) Every hit afterwards was a crit (not far of a stretch with RR)


Test them outside abyssea.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-11-30 16:36:35
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Asura.Xeth said: »
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Asura.Ludoggy said: »
Cerberus.Taint said: »
300tp Kaiten for extra att in TP build
What did I miss?
Relic AM duration scales with TP.
I think what he was hinting at is that saving up to 300tp for STP+7 is completely stupid.
What's a Dusty Wing?

Fenrir.Skarwind said: »
Wonder how this would do on VW content.
I really doubt it'll outright beat Drakesbane, but throwing one in periodically to maintain the criteva down effect is almost certainly advisable.
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2011-11-30 16:39:37
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I'm happy about the Askar upgrades though.



Add in the +5 pants you have no real sacrifices for a 5 hit with capped haste. Could go Dusk+1 gloves if you want. Odds are they will come out with better.

DRK got cut a nice break too. Makes 5 hitting a Scythe kind of effortless and 6 hitting a Gsword without effort

Only piece I dont have is the pants, I also regret throwing denali body lol..
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By Asura.Leonlionheart 2011-11-30 16:43:22
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Cerberus.Taint said: »
Test them outside abyssea.

Test them yourself?

In an earlier post I said I was heading to Kaggen, but I can't find the Voidwatch =GM= that hands you everything. (some douchebags disbanded party when I was 5/6 Tier 2 Jeuno)
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By Asura.Leonlionheart 2011-11-30 16:44:13
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Fenrir.Skarwind said: »
I'm happy about the Askar upgrades though.



Add in the +5 pants you have no real sacrifices for a 5 hit with capped haste. Could go Dusk+1 gloves if you want. Odds are they will come out with better.

DRK got cut a nice break too. Makes 5 hitting a Scythe kind of effortless and 6 hitting a Gsword without effort

Only piece I dont have is the pants, I also regret throwing denali body lol..

Where can I find these informations?
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By Odin.Skeero 2011-11-30 16:51:20
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Find it yourself?
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2011-11-30 16:52:49
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http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/27159/test-server-update-11302011/4/#1640674
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By Asura.Leonlionheart 2011-11-30 16:53:38
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TY
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2011-11-30 16:54:33
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thanks for the info leo, more anxious to see what a sam can do with that ws. I don't expect it to beat drakesbane, but polearm sam could be making a comeback.
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By Asura.Leonlionheart 2011-11-30 16:58:02
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I can't easily use Windower with the test server, or else I'd attempt to parse the crit evasion down effect right now.

Depending on the potency, that alone could make DRG or PA SAM much more viable in serious endgame situations...

Edit: I imagine coupling this WS with Ryunohige will completely destroy all other DD...
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2011-11-30 17:09:38
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Yeah. Pretty much.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Dawnn 2011-11-30 17:14:52
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Fenrir.Skarwind said: »
I'm happy about the Askar upgrades though.

askar upgrades?
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By Quetzalcoatl.Dawnn 2011-11-30 17:15:50
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oh found it!
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By Asura.Leonlionheart 2011-11-30 17:20:00
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WAR/SAM(Discipline+Coercion Lv10) VW T1 Jeuno Batalia Downs (Cherufe)
He used Granite Skin and Boiling Blood after the first WS.

For ALL WS(including Ukko's) I used a Attack>STR>VIT set (main notable pieces that wouldn't be in an Ukko's set were Twilight Helm(+2 would've been better but I wanted to maximize Attack, VIT, and STR instead of DA chance), Ares body, Heafoc Mitts, and Hecatomb Leggings +1 w/ STR+3 (and other non relevant to GA stats)) All WS were performed with Stalwarts and Braver's, 103+118 STR, over 999 Attack, and around 26% total DA.

First: Upheaval 300%: 1974
Second: Mighty Strikes 300% Upheaval: 4944
Third: Mighty Strikes 100% Ukko's Furry: 2222 (probably a miss, but Save TP and heavy Regain skewed my TP return so I couldn't tell)
Fourth: Mighty Strikes 100% Upheaval: 3339

Then I died :<

Edit: I think Ukko's will still win for more relevant NMs, because of crits. This WS however might push Bravura over Ukonvasara though.
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2011-11-30 17:29:19
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Eyeballing a few upheavals I was doing myself, for roughly 2k with only 1 merit.
This was on EP crap in Terrigan though.
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By Asura.Vyre 2011-11-30 17:29:28
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Hmm, so gearing all 9 of my weapons has finally paid off. Just have to cap all the pesky skills again since my repose.
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By Asura.Leonlionheart 2011-11-30 17:45:43
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Fenrir.Leoheart said: »
Eyeballing a few upheavals I was doing myself, for roughly 2k with only 1 merit.
This was on EP crap in Terrigan though.

pretty sure 5/5 makes a huge difference
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By Bahamut.Krizz 2011-11-30 17:46:40
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Asura.Leonlionheart said: »
Fenrir.Leoheart said: »
Eyeballing a few upheavals I was doing myself, for roughly 2k with only 1 merit.
This was on EP crap in Terrigan though.

pretty sure 5/5 makes a huge difference
I can't remember if it was a previous page or on BG, but I saw something like 60%+ difference in the modifiers or something.

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Leviathan.Phenomena said: »
just curious as to how big the diff is between 1-5...
Ophannus said: »
68% stronger modifier. Which is MASSIVE.
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2011-11-30 17:50:39
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So can somebody explain how merits work for this? You get a max of 5 for each weapon skill? What is the actual limit for these? (Max number of weaponskills you can unlock and max out)
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-11-30 17:50:46
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Every merit put in increases the modifier of the weaponskill by 17%

You can put a maximum of 5 in each weaponskill, but you can only put 15 in the category.

Essentially you can only have 3 fully merited WSs.
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2011-11-30 17:51:55
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Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Every merit put in increases the modifier of the weaponskill by 17%

Merits for this category cap at what though (ex: 0/15 for the overall category)

Edit" Oh okay thanks. I'm guessing I'd do

GAXE/GSword/Polearm personally.
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2011-11-30 17:52:13
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Fenrir.Skarwind said: »
So can somebody explain how merits work for this? You get a max of 5 for each weapon skill? What is the actual limit for these? (Max number of weaponskills you can unlock and max out)

You can merit in that category 15 times, each ws can be merited 5 times like this: 10,15,20,25,30 merits.
So 100 merits to fully upgrade something, and you can only max 3 out :(
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2011-11-30 17:53:11
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Gives me a reason to merit on jobs that have been previously capped now though. I've always liked dicking around with Gsword on WAR with mighty strikes up <_<
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2011-11-30 17:54:03
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Oh, I heard you need 15 merits to even unlock the Weaponskill category First.
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By Phoenix.Cathaldus 2011-11-30 17:57:11
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Fenrir.Leoheart said: »
Oh, I heard you need 15 merits to even unlock the Weaponskill category First.

By category you mean a WS right? Because all you spend merits on is first unlocking the WS then increased the strength.
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By Asura.Leonlionheart 2011-11-30 18:03:36
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10>15>20>25>30

I didn't notice needing 15 merits to unlock it, but I just popped into the MH got 99 and got 30 merits a million times

Edit: didn't see information in a previous post
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By Leviathan.Quetzacoatl 2011-11-30 18:06:07
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Fenrir.Kendraian said: »
Well as DRK using Resolution SE and Scarlet Dillerium in Abyssea(which i was @999 pre scarlet dilerium) I managed a 6000 Resoulution >.> cant remember if i used my WS set though i Screen shot it but apparently that doesnt work in Full Screen mode T_T any ideas how to get the test client into a windowed mode?
Was this on an EP-EM mob? What does it do against T-IT and High-Tier NMs? I just about wrote off Scythe almost completely until I saw this
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By Leviathan.Draugo 2011-11-30 18:06:57
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Leviathan.Draugo said: »
Wait wait wait..... Axe gets the WS that has throwing stars on it?

/sad
>.>

Anyway anyone played with the Katana one yet? 5 hits is pretty wow!
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2011-11-30 18:07:56
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Phoenix.Cathaldus said: »
Fenrir.Leoheart said: »
Oh, I heard you need 15 merits to even unlock the Weaponskill category First.

By category you mean a WS right? Because all you spend merits on is first unlocking the WS then increased the strength.

Like I said it's something I heard, sounded like a prerequisite for when it's actually implemented onto the real servers.
Might just be false information, however.
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