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 Lakshmi.Greggles
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By Lakshmi.Greggles 2011-11-17 16:03:46
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Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Bahamut.Cuelebra said: »
really now?
regen
Level 18 Scholar
Level 21 White Mage
Level 21 Red Mage
regen2
Level 37 Scholar
Level 44 White Mage
Level 76 Red Mage
regen3 (this is when SE decided to reverse it..)
Level White Mage 66
Level Scholar 83
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anyways whm has cura3 and cure5(not mentioning cure6 since the consensus is that thats a abyssea used spell only). be happy.

you totally misinterpreted the point, which is whm and rdm had regen before the scholar job even existed in this game.

Well, SCH is in the game now. And it's getting regens earlier than the other jobs. :P
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By Bahamut.Cuelebra 2011-11-17 16:06:24
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Phoenix.Sehachan said: »
Whm even has regen merits, it's obvious that it was meant to be its speciality. Only now SE has decided to make it sch's, since they didn't know what else to do with the job.

well in all fairness the regen merits were there b4 WoTG expansion was released correct? so yah it was their specialty up till WoTG release etc.

not fair to royally f over the job because its a newer job.

Lakshmi.Greggles said: »
Well, SCH is in the game now. And it's getting regens earlier than the other jobs. :P
Also quite pleased no mention of haste2. plus... no more needing to sub /whm for events. sch/rdm with haste rawr!
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By Lakshmi.Greggles 2011-11-17 16:13:15
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Bahamut.Cuelebra said: »
Phoenix.Sehachan said: »
Whm even has regen merits, it's obvious that it was meant to be its speciality. Only now SE has decided to make it sch's, since they didn't know what else to do with the job.

well in all fairness the regen merits were there b4 WoTG expansion was released correct? so yah it was their specialty up till WoTG release etc.

not fair to royally f over the job because its a newer job.

Lakshmi.Greggles said: »
Well, SCH is in the game now. And it's getting regens earlier than the other jobs. :P
Also quite pleased no mention of haste2. plus... no more needing to sub /whm for events. sch/rdm with haste rawr!

I wonder if that means they might change Manifestation to allow people to aoe haste since SCH can cast it now. O_o. That'd be friggin awesome.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2011-11-17 16:13:51
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Odin.Eikechi said: »
How is sch turning into a DoT mage (somebody said it)? They don't even get bio II without the right sub, or poison spells, and their helix spells were given to every other job..... I'm confused by that person's statement, considering they didn't outline T2 helix spells either. Though I'm psyched about regen 5, and my break might be shorter than longer... If this stuff is implemented soon, that is.

Thats the "vision" SE is working on. As far as I'm concerned, the job is still incomplete.

Both regens and t1 helixes are getting buffs, they have plans to further monitor the progress of these buffs and overall whenever they get around to it, SCH is supposed to be a heal-over-time mage.

Expect T2 helixes as merit at this rate.
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By Bahamut.Cuelebra 2011-11-17 16:14:36
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Lakshmi.Greggles said: »
Bahamut.Cuelebra said: »
Phoenix.Sehachan said: »
Whm even has regen merits, it's obvious that it was meant to be its speciality. Only now SE has decided to make it sch's, since they didn't know what else to do with the job.

well in all fairness the regen merits were there b4 WoTG expansion was released correct? so yah it was their specialty up till WoTG release etc.

not fair to royally f over the job because its a newer job.

Lakshmi.Greggles said: »
Well, SCH is in the game now. And it's getting regens earlier than the other jobs. :P
Also quite pleased no mention of haste2. plus... no more needing to sub /whm for events. sch/rdm with haste rawr!

I wonder if that means they might change Manifestation to allow people to aoe haste since SCH can cast it now. O_o. That'd be friggin awesome.

Doubt it. we were able to cast it with whm sub and it couldnt be Accessioned then.
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By Lakshmi.Greggles 2011-11-17 16:15:17
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Bahamut.Cuelebra said: »
Lakshmi.Greggles said: »
Bahamut.Cuelebra said: »
Phoenix.Sehachan said: »
Whm even has regen merits, it's obvious that it was meant to be its speciality. Only now SE has decided to make it sch's, since they didn't know what else to do with the job.

well in all fairness the regen merits were there b4 WoTG expansion was released correct? so yah it was their specialty up till WoTG release etc.

not fair to royally f over the job because its a newer job.

Lakshmi.Greggles said: »
Well, SCH is in the game now. And it's getting regens earlier than the other jobs. :P
Also quite pleased no mention of haste2. plus... no more needing to sub /whm for events. sch/rdm with haste rawr!

I wonder if that means they might change Manifestation to allow people to aoe haste since SCH can cast it now. O_o. That'd be friggin awesome.

Doubt it. we were able to cast it with whm sub and it couldnt be Accessioned then.

Yeah, true. I forgot about that. -_-

Well that sucks xD
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By Phoenix.Cathaldus 2011-11-17 16:19:30
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Really? WHM gets Cure V, SCH is never getting it and someone is moaning about not getting Regen V, despite people always going on about Regen not being worth casting.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2011-11-17 16:19:38
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Thats the "vision" SE is working on. As far as I'm concerned, the job is still incomplete.

Both regens and t1 helixes are getting buffs, they have plans to further monitor the progress of these buffs and overall whenever they get around to it, SCH is supposed to be a heal-over-time mage.

Expect T2 helixes as merit at this rate.


so 1 DoT spell that it had, that is now accessible on any job, makes it a "DoT mage"?.. I'm still confused. Can you cite a source for this "vision" of theirs?
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By Brolli 2011-11-17 16:20:37
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Leviathan.Frotaut said: »
Am i the only pld that was hoping to see cure V for pld? not for nothing but we've had the same tier healing since 75 lil love , would help with hate management and wow i could actually heal myself again.
sch or rdm wont get cure5, what makes you think pld will? lol
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-11-17 16:26:21
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SCH = Warlock ofc.

Brolli said: »
Leviathan.Frotaut said: »
Am i the only pld that was hoping to see cure V for pld? not for nothing but we've had the same tier healing since 75 lil love , would help with hate management and wow i could actually heal myself again.
sch or rdm wont get cure5, what makes you think pld will? lol

While I agree with the reasoning, it would be the most amazing troll I've ever seen from SE, and they seem to toss out plenty of trolls.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2011-11-17 16:43:50
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Odin.Eikechi said: »
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Thats the "vision" SE is working on. As far as I'm concerned, the job is still incomplete.

Both regens and t1 helixes are getting buffs, they have plans to further monitor the progress of these buffs and overall whenever they get around to it, SCH is supposed to be a heal-over-time mage.

Expect T2 helixes as merit at this rate.


so 1 DoT spell that it had, that is now accessible on any job, makes it a "DoT mage"?.. I'm still confused. Can you cite a source for this "vision" of theirs?

SE said:
"Having skills comparable to that of WHM and BLM, we plan on adding/adjusting abilities that allow effective support or attacks in exchange for taking time."
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By Odin.Eikechi 2011-11-17 17:00:23
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Hey mate, ya don't gotta bold it like a bloomin' idiot lol.. I just never saw that 1 line of 1 dev post... clam your horses mate. It still doesn't make a lick of sense, seeing is how sch gets no DoT spells natively but 1 set...
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By Bahamut.Echojin 2011-11-17 17:01:28
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Wow thanks SE. Brd gets some extra carols. *Continues playing skyrim*
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By Bahamut.Feisei 2011-11-17 17:02:35
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GRAVITY TWO?!?

Why?
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By KothoftheHammer 2011-11-17 17:04:03
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Bahamut.Feisei said: »
GRAVITY TWO?!?

Why?
Solo sky NM better, duh.
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By Fenrir.Minjo 2011-11-17 17:07:00
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Bahamut.Echojin said: »
Wow thanks SE. Brd gets some extra carols. *Continues playing skyrim*

It almost sounds as if bards are looking for something exciting to happen to their job.

Its not the developers' fault you prioritize the least stimulating job available.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-11-17 17:08:27
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SE has backed themselves so far into a corner on so many jobs that I'm really not sure they could do much about the core issues involved with any of them even if they cared to.
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By Leviathan.Alkalinejoe 2011-11-17 17:08:56
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Fenrir.Minjo said: »
Bahamut.Echojin said: »
Wow thanks SE. Brd gets some extra carols. *Continues playing skyrim*

It almost sounds as if bards are looking for something exciting to happen to their job.

Its not the developers' fault you prioritize the least stimulating job available.
Bard is a very stimulating job! Sometimes the mages move and I have to walk a few extra yalms! While all the lazy wars and plds and what not just sit in one spot.
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By Fenrir.Jinjo 2011-11-17 17:09:52
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Bard used to be fun when you could tank with it, it's not going to be interesting again. Aside from that, it's a job that keeps you constantly occupied if you're playing it correctly, but it's never going to be something particularly captivating. You sing songs.
 
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By Titan.Bomber 2011-11-17 17:11:24
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Phoenix.Urteil said: »
Okay guys, I went out and bought my Jupiter's staff for DRK.

LET'S DO THIS.
You are doing it wrong ..make a thunder affinity scythe
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2011-11-17 17:13:00
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Odin.Eikechi said: »
Hey mate, ya don't gotta bold it like a bloomin' idiot lol.. I just never saw that 1 line of 1 dev post... clam your horses mate. It still doesn't make a lick of sense, seeing is how sch gets no DoT spells natively but 1 set...

Wut? I only bolded it so it'd stand out against the quotetrain. D:

From what SE has posted, they are changing the job from a simple mix heal/nuker to a class that establishes a niche through DoT.

The regen line is being retweaked to ultimately be paired off with the "improved" Cure IV that is being discussed. Coupled with what I hope is eventually a lift on the "no haste" clause of Accession, the job will be an effective 2nd-3rd string healer.

On the nuking front, I admit alot needs to be done. If they want the job to work on DoT then a new tier of Helix need to be available, Modus needs to not suck and some SCH-unique DoTs beyond Helixes need to appear.

Vials and Grenades were brought up before and I still stand by the idea that SE missed out on doing something unique with these on Scholar. It'd be along the same line as WoWs Shaman (yes I just mentioned WoW) which is where SE seems to want to take Scholar.
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By Bahamut.Serj 2011-11-17 17:18:18
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Fenrir.Jinjo said: »
You sing songs.

Hey now, I sing songs irl and it's very damn fun. Don't be hatin on musical theater.
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By Lakshmi.Galvaya 2011-11-17 17:23:39
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I wish they never released Scholar. They could have done Time Mage instead, and been more creative with the abilities and spells.

Off the top of my head, I always thought if
some spells would have included...

Gravity 1/2/3
Bind

Slow 1/2/3

Haste1/2

Spells that would target and give party members:
Double Attack
Triple Attack
Counter
Fast Cast
Double Cast
Conserve Mp
Store TP
Subtle Blow


Quicken(faster attack rate, greatly inhibits TP gain, then higher tiers would impact the tp penalty less)

Abilities like
quick magic
fast cast
0mp cost
double cast




Obviously a lot more thought would go in to it, but I think it woulda been more fun than SCH, and a bit more useful.

Iunno...
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-11-17 17:24:37
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So you described Cor/Rdm.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2011-11-17 17:27:45
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Phoenix.Sehachan said: »
So you described Cor/Rdm.

Well played...
 
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2011-11-17 17:33:21
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Fenrir.Jinjo said: »
You sing songs.
Sounds like you dont know how to play the jerb.
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2011-11-17 17:34:44
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drk needs the ability to necromance at night.. i mean nin gets night buffs why not drk D: i want to summon some BONES! or hound...id call him haty.
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By Ragnarok.Madmaxximist 2011-11-17 17:40:49
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Man BLM got robbed! Where the heck is MEEEEETEEEEEORRRRRRR!!! And inb4 the "BLM has Comet" comments, Comet isn't meteor...Meteors and comets are 2 different things.... ; ;
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