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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-09-20 22:54:30
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Jamesy said: »
af3+2 hands are better imo what i have noticed perpetuance can make it last roughly 20 minutes
5*2.5 = 12.5 minutes
really...really not that hard to figure out
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By Inuyasha 2011-09-21 02:51:14
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389 skill was getting 3/tic regain

Kaustra did 600 DMG

WoE #6 on one of those cerberus mobs....it made the fight go MUCH faster XD
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By Lakshmi.Emanuelle 2011-09-21 03:39:38
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i have been playing with kaustra a lot on nms, it's very powerful, i used it on kur/isgebind/dragua, they go down very fast , embrava good for AV zerg too
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By Sylph.Katalsar 2011-09-21 04:01:29
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Ok we all know Embrava is enhanced w/ Light Arts/perp but I believe its also enhanced by aurorastorm and rapture. Now this could be true or not..but I know in Abyssea I get Regen+50 Regain 4/tick idk attack speed w/ aurora and rapture.

However when I had just voidstorm up I got Regen lowered, and Regain 3/tick idk atk speed.
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By Inuyasha 2011-09-21 04:19:44
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Sylph.Katalsar said: »
Ok we all know Embrava is enhanced w/ Light Arts/perp but I believe its also enhanced by aurorastorm and rapture. Now this could be true or not..but I know in Abyssea I get Regen+50 Regain 4/tick idk attack speed w/ aurora and rapture. However when I had just voidstorm up I got Regen lowered, and Regain 3/tick idk atk speed.
all i know is...perpetuance without the +2 hands buff makes it last about 5 minutes....didnt fix my spellcast so i didnt get the hands bonus on it...but if i did womg
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By Ragnarok.Agarak 2011-09-21 05:59:59
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Sylph.Katalsar said: »
Ok we all know Embrava is enhanced w/ Light Arts/perp but I believe its also enhanced by aurorastorm and rapture. Now this could be true or not..but I know in Abyssea I get Regen+50 Regain 4/tick idk attack speed w/ aurora and rapture.

From what I found out about Embrava is that there are only 2 things that really enhance its potency. 1st Light Arts: This makes your Embrava a 50hp/tc regen, 4tp/tic regain and idk about haste. 2nd head+2: It increase the regen effect to 55hp/tic.

Sylph.Katalsar said: »
However when I had just voidstorm up I got Regen lowered, and Regain 3/tick idk atk speed.

Maybe you just Dark Arts active or no Art at all. Yesterday in Einheriar I still got 55hp/tic regen and 4tp/tic regain with only Light Arts active in double dark weather.

Inuyasha said: »
all i know is...perpetuance without the +2 hands buff makes it last about 5 minutes....didnt fix my spellcast so i didnt get the hands bonus on it...but if i did womg

Embrava without any enhancements lasts for 5 minutes. So with Perpetuance and no +2 hands it lasts 10 minutes. With Perpetuance and +2 hands 12 minutes and 30 seconds.
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By Bahamut.Cuelebra 2011-09-21 14:06:47
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Lakshmi.Emanuelle said: »
i have been playing with kaustra a lot on nms, it's very powerful, i used it on kur/isgebind/dragua, they go down very fast , embrava good for AV zerg too

This was something else i was wondering. Haste(spell)15 + SoulVoice(Marchx2)40 + Embrava33~... this is how much increase in attack speed for zergs? 92%
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By cptransom 2011-09-21 15:21:20
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Embrava + Glavoid = lol
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By Carbuncle.Nezea 2011-09-21 15:52:01
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Cerberus.Wolfshadow said: »
5*2.5 = 12.5 minutes
really...really not that hard to figure out

FTFY
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2011-09-21 15:55:15
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Bahamut.Cuelebra said: »
Lakshmi.Emanuelle said: »
i have been playing with kaustra a lot on nms, it's very powerful, i used it on kur/isgebind/dragua, they go down very fast , embrava good for AV zerg too

This was something else i was wondering. Haste(spell)15 + SoulVoice(Marchx2)40 + Embrava33~... this is how much increase in attack speed for zergs? 92%
cap is 85%
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By Siren.Mcclane 2011-09-21 15:57:11
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Siren.Thoraeon said: »
Bahamut.Cuelebra said: »
Lakshmi.Emanuelle said: »
i have been playing with kaustra a lot on nms, it's very powerful, i used it on kur/isgebind/dragua, they go down very fast , embrava good for AV zerg too

This was something else i was wondering. Haste(spell)15 + SoulVoice(Marchx2)40 + Embrava33~... this is how much increase in attack speed for zergs? 92%
cap is 85%

And then gear would put us at 111% Haste :O Not to mention Dual Wield. Epic attack speed!
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2011-09-21 15:57:53
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Siren.Mcclane said: »
Siren.Thoraeon said: »
Bahamut.Cuelebra said: »
Lakshmi.Emanuelle said: »
i have been playing with kaustra a lot on nms, it's very powerful, i used it on kur/isgebind/dragua, they go down very fast , embrava good for AV zerg too

This was something else i was wondering. Haste(spell)15 + SoulVoice(Marchx2)40 + Embrava33~... this is how much increase in attack speed for zergs? 92%
cap is 85%

And then gear would put us at 111% Haste :O Not to mention Dual Wield. Epic attack speed!
get.... out....
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By Phoenix.Eckeward 2011-09-21 19:18:48
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From my personal testing over the past 2 days:
Embrava lasts 5mins without Prepetuance.
Kaustra kicks ***.

I cast Haste and Embrava on my MNK friend the other day fighting Yaanei (pretty sure he has 25% in gear.) It was non-stop like Hundred Fists :D He got a bit upset actually, it made getting staggers harder with the mob dying so fast.

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I was feeling geeky the other day and made a graph of Haste vs Relative attack rate, maybe here is a good place to put it. I was trying to work out what the name of this shape is.(It's a hyperbola ;))


It's interesting to see the increasing returns of Haste.
  • 25% (Full attack gear) will make you hit x1.33 as often.

  • ~40% (Haste+Embrava) only x1.7

  • 65% (Magic+Gear) Together ~x2.9

  • 75% (+SAM Hasso) ~x4 attack rate. [Wait, someone get me a SAM in full Haste equipment right now!]

  • 80% should be x5. (the difference 5% Haste makes,...)


I've just noticed the wiki says the magical haste cap is around 44%, which is roughly Haste + Embrava. I don't know how accurate that number is but,... March {Do you need it?}?^^

Siren.Thoraeon said: »
cap is 85%
Wiki said it was 80% but meh.

Sorry, my posts get long and pointless but the magic cap thing was probably relevant. ;)
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By Lakshmi.Emanuelle 2011-09-22 07:16:19
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just played with kaustra today again, did 2447 initial dmg, i was dealing like like 3.5% dmg per tic on this nm, using ultimate,mm and beyond atmas with 389 dark magic skills , dark weather +klimaform and ebullience/dark obi/twilght cape/portents pants, af1 body , i almost killed it... but i left him with 5% hp lol, no meds or magician trials staff used, i love these new spells
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By Quetzalcoatl.Kimora 2011-09-22 08:54:25
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White Grimoire does nothing, because your magic skills are already at B+ from using 2hr. I tried various things on test server, and only enhancing magic had any effect on how strong the spell was. As I said earlier in this thread, when I have enhancing magic 454, I get 65HP regen 5TP regain and ~31% haste. If you want it to be stronger, add more skill.
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2011-09-22 11:48:19
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Phoenix.Eckeward said: »
Siren.Thoraeon said: »
cap is 85%
Wiki said it was 80% but meh.
Oh, my mistake then. I could have sworn that I heard that is was 85% somewhere.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2011-09-22 11:52:30
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Siren.Mcclane said: »
Siren.Thoraeon said: »
Bahamut.Cuelebra said: »
Lakshmi.Emanuelle said: »
i have been playing with kaustra a lot on nms, it's very powerful, i used it on kur/isgebind/dragua, they go down very fast , embrava good for AV zerg too

This was something else i was wondering. Haste(spell)15 + SoulVoice(Marchx2)40 + Embrava33~... this is how much increase in attack speed for zergs? 92%
cap is 85%

And then gear would put us at 111% Haste :O Not to mention Dual Wield. Epic attack speed!

lulz. Thats like warp 10, infinite attacks attacking everything at once. Nothing survives!!!!!
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By Inuyasha 2011-09-22 12:03:37
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Ragnarok.Agarak said: »
Sylph.Katalsar said: »
Ok we all know Embrava is enhanced w/ Light Arts/perp but I believe its also enhanced by aurorastorm and rapture. Now this could be true or not..but I know in Abyssea I get Regen+50 Regain 4/tick idk attack speed w/ aurora and rapture.
From what I found out about Embrava is that there are only 2 things that really enhance its potency. 1st Light Arts: This makes your Embrava a 50hp/tc regen, 4tp/tic regain and idk about haste. 2nd head+2: It increase the regen effect to 55hp/tic.
Sylph.Katalsar said: »
However when I had just voidstorm up I got Regen lowered, and Regain 3/tick idk atk speed.
Maybe you just Dark Arts active or no Art at all. Yesterday in Einheriar I still got 55hp/tic regen and 4tp/tic regain with only Light Arts active in double dark weather.
Inuyasha said: »
all i know is...perpetuance without the +2 hands buff makes it last about 5 minutes....didnt fix my spellcast so i didnt get the hands bonus on it...but if i did womg
Embrava without any enhancements lasts for 5 minutes. So with Perpetuance and no +2 hands it lasts 10 minutes. With Perpetuance and +2 hands 12 minutes and 30 seconds.
yea...my spellcast wasnt spellchecked before i hit save and i didnt have the +2 hands properly spelled so they didnt change in ;_; but that was the best 10 minutes ever in WoE...

also:they need to give us our AF3+3 now....
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By Phoenix.Eckeward 2011-09-22 12:10:20
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Quetzalcoatl.Kimora said: »
White Grimoire does nothing,..
Wouldn't even affect the mp cost ;) Although admitedly, the only help Light Arts would be is via your AF1 legs, oh and recast times.

I forgot to add in my previous post, you can cast (with Ascession) Embrava on any PC (outside PT) and NPC in Beseiged.
Also I got a Dark Magic skill-up for casting Kaustra.
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Back to Kaustra, I have some SSs, but no real testing results. :s
I didn't SS my pokings of Sisyphus and Hedjedjet, but the dots on them were 1% per tick. I know Sisy has ~58k hp, so 500+ damage/tick. Unfortunately my Kaustras only seem to last for around a minute. I timed my first on Hedjedjet as 1 minute, but the second cast lasted over a minute but unfortunately at that point I died and it wore.(MM, Beyond, Cosmos)

On the dolls; I did a 3,260 normally(I think) just MM, Beyond (+ Royal Lineage) The dot would then be about 9-10% damage per tick (which is roughly 500-550dmg,...)
My best so far (MM, Beyond, Cosmos) (Don't have Ultimate ; ; )

Some consistency;


As for Manifestation, nice numbers in Abyssea:

Random numbers before I "left" Dynamis-Jeuno:


Another pointless post \^^/
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By Phoenix.Eckeward 2011-09-22 16:57:24
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Is it time to merit Focalization and Equanimity again?

I don't know how bad the hate generation is but in a party situation, if you cast Kaustra you don't want to pull hate and die.
And I'm not sure how important accuracy is.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-09-22 17:02:03
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Lakshmi.Emanuelle said: »

just played with kaustra today again, did 2447 initial dmg, i was dealing like like 3.5% dmg per tic on this nm, using ultimate,mm and beyond atmas with 389 dark magic skills , dark weather +klimaform and ebullience/dark obi/twilght cape/portents pants, af1 body , i almost killed it... but i left him with 5% hp lol, no meds or magician trials staff used, i love these new spells

You died to that NM? My grandma can solo that NM easily by kiting around.
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By Bahamut.Serj 2011-09-22 17:05:55
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Siren.Thoraeon said: »
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Siren.Thoraeon said: »
cap is 85%
Wiki said it was 80% but meh.
Oh, my mistake then. I could have sworn that I heard that is was 85% somewhere.

Delay reducation caps at 80%. DW and haste aren't additive. Magic haste caps at 50%, JA 25%, gear 25%.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2011-09-22 17:20:07
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Bahamut.Serj said: »
Siren.Thoraeon said: »
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Siren.Thoraeon said: »
cap is 85%
Wiki said it was 80% but meh.
Oh, my mistake then. I could have sworn that I heard that is was 85% somewhere.

Delay reducation caps at 80%. DW and haste aren't additive. Magic haste caps at 50%, JA 25%, gear 25%.

when did magic haste cap at 50%? been 40 something since as long as i can remember
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By Phoenix.Eckeward 2011-09-22 17:48:23
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Phoenix.Eckeward said: »
And I'm not sure how important accuracy is.

I just got a 50% resist on a Manifestation + Kaustra. The mob that got the 50% resist took about twice as long to die. It's hard to tell exactly, but it was definately longer. I think I will re-merit Focalization.
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By Bahamut.Serj 2011-09-22 17:58:05
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Bahamut.Serj said: »
Siren.Thoraeon said: »
Phoenix.Eckeward said: »
Siren.Thoraeon said: »
cap is 85%
Wiki said it was 80% but meh.
Oh, my mistake then. I could have sworn that I heard that is was 85% somewhere.

Delay reducation caps at 80%. DW and haste aren't additive. Magic haste caps at 50%, JA 25%, gear 25%.

when did magic haste cap at 50%? been 40 something since as long as i can remember

Since there's been a haste/delay cap.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2011-09-22 18:13:34
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Bahamut.Serj said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Bahamut.Serj said: »
Siren.Thoraeon said: »
Phoenix.Eckeward said: »
Siren.Thoraeon said: »
cap is 85%
Wiki said it was 80% but meh.
Oh, my mistake then. I could have sworn that I heard that is was 85% somewhere.

Delay reducation caps at 80%. DW and haste aren't additive. Magic haste caps at 50%, JA 25%, gear 25%.

when did magic haste cap at 50%? been 40 something since as long as i can remember

Since there's been a haste/delay cap.

Hmm really think you should check your sources on that, pretty sure it's been 43.75% for years.
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By Bahamut.Serj 2011-09-22 18:20:52
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Bahamut.Serj said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Bahamut.Serj said: »
Siren.Thoraeon said: »
Phoenix.Eckeward said: »
Siren.Thoraeon said: »
cap is 85%
Wiki said it was 80% but meh.
Oh, my mistake then. I could have sworn that I heard that is was 85% somewhere.

Delay reducation caps at 80%. DW and haste aren't additive. Magic haste caps at 50%, JA 25%, gear 25%.

when did magic haste cap at 50%? been 40 something since as long as i can remember

Since there's been a haste/delay cap.

Hmm really think you should check your sources on that, pretty sure it's been 43.75% for years.

Oh right, 444/1024. My bad.

And gear is 256/1024, along with haste gear not giving exact values listed on gear. (just in case someone asks)
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By Lakshmi.Emanuelle 2011-09-22 19:09:03
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Leviathan.Draylo said: »
Lakshmi.Emanuelle said: »

just played with kaustra today again, did 2447 initial dmg, i was dealing like like 3.5% dmg per tic on this nm, using ultimate,mm and beyond atmas with 389 dark magic skills , dark weather +klimaform and ebullience/dark obi/twilght cape/portents pants, af1 body , i almost killed it... but i left him with 5% hp lol, no meds or magician trials staff used, i love these new spells

You died to that NM? My grandma can solo that NM easily by kiting around.
one thing for sure i can solo more stuff than your silly blu, i was not even trying to solo this nm but standing in a corner getting hit, keep hating
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-09-22 22:17:03
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Lakshmi.Emanuelle said: »
Hurt

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By Fenrir.Skadoosh 2011-09-22 22:21:43
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Lakshmi.Emanuelle said: »
one thing for sure i can solo more stuff than your silly blu
lol'd, no.
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