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By Cerberus.Vaness 2011-08-15 17:09:12
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I've got beaten dammit! ;_;
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-08-15 17:09:20
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Why did this thread explode into an angry time :(
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By Cerberus.Vaness 2011-08-15 17:10:14
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Carbuncle.Asymptotic said: »
Why did this thread explode into an angry time :(
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2011-08-15 17:12:21
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Carbuncle.Asymptotic said: »
Why did this thread explode into an angry time :(

welll...the thread is based on SE's responses to DNC questions, all of which are basically answered with NO...so the question is..when was it not angry time?
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By Sylph.Dancingharuhi 2011-08-15 17:15:12
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Carbuncle.Asymptotic said: »
Why did this thread explode into an angry time :(

Since the random insults about 3 pages back. Seems the norm here.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-08-15 17:16:10
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Sylph.Dancingharuhi said: »
Carbuncle.Asymptotic said: »
Why did this thread explode into an angry time :(

Since the random insults about 3 pages back. Seems the norm here.

Yeah, That Kiaru chick should really stop insulting people randomly.
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By Sylph.Dancingharuhi 2011-08-15 17:18:35
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Shiva.Flionheart said: »
Sylph.Dancingharuhi said: »
Carbuncle.Asymptotic said: »
Why did this thread explode into an angry time :(

Since the random insults about 3 pages back. Seems the norm here.

Yeah, That Kiaru chick should really stop insulting people randomly.

Are we reading the same thread?
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-08-15 17:19:32
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Sylph.Dancingharuhi said: »
Shiva.Flionheart said: »
Sylph.Dancingharuhi said: »
Carbuncle.Asymptotic said: »
Why did this thread explode into an angry time :(

Since the random insults about 3 pages back. Seems the norm here.

Yeah, That Kiaru chick should really stop insulting people randomly.

Are we reading the same thread?

I'd imagine so, there's only one DNC dev thread.

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By Sylph.Kimble 2011-08-15 17:19:42
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Shiva.Flionheart said: »
Oh

Makes sense I guess, I've seen loads of people saying it specifically to her so I thought there was some significance.

She's only been posting on here for a few days and I'm already angry.

On topic:

I have a new character with DNC, what are the optimal daggers?

Do you want to do trials or non trial daggers?
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By Cerberus.Mystina 2011-08-15 17:20:40
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Just tell SE that DNC is "SAM" in disguse, i'm sure they will fix the timers, in other words only some jobs can be Oped and some can't, we have to learn to live with this. WAR is not Oped at all btw. just thought i'd throw that out there.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-08-15 17:23:06
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Sylph.Kimble said: »
Shiva.Flionheart said: »
Oh

Makes sense I guess, I've seen loads of people saying it specifically to her so I thought there was some significance.

She's only been posting on here for a few days and I'm already angry.

On topic:

I have a new character with DNC, what are the optimal daggers?

Do you want to do trials or non trial daggers?

Non trials preferably, I've got a Kila +2 on flion and I'm too lazy to do it again
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By Sylph.Kimble 2011-08-15 17:24:08
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For non trial, id imanage something like Angr Harpe + Twilight dagger. Harpe has high damage but pretty bad delay. There might be a newer dagger im missing but ill look around.
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By Sylph.Dancingharuhi 2011-08-15 17:25:20
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Shiva.Flionheart said: »
Sylph.Dancingharuhi said: »
Shiva.Flionheart said: »
Sylph.Dancingharuhi said: »
Carbuncle.Asymptotic said: »
Why did this thread explode into an angry time :(

Since the random insults about 3 pages back. Seems the norm here.

Yeah, That Kiaru chick should really stop insulting people randomly.

Are we reading the same thread?

I'd imagine so, there's only one DNC dev thread.

OMG GUYZ SOMEONE DIDN'T INSULT HER! WHITE KNIGHT! WHITE KNIGHT!

Welcome to Ad Hominem 101. Winning arguments by insulting the other party.

I'd expect this from Alla, but even they've calmed down in recent years.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-08-15 17:25:29
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Thanks, gives me an idea at least
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By Cerberus.Vaness 2011-08-15 17:26:22
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Sylph.Dancingharuhi said: »
Carbuncle.Asymptotic said: »
Why did this thread explode into an angry time :(

Since the random insults about 3 pages back. Seems the norm here.
Whiteknight ect
If you post something retard, expect to get treated as one.
Now plz, post DNC related stuff or GTFO, your garbaging this thread even more.

(I'm not in a good mood today)
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By Sylph.Kimble 2011-08-15 17:27:10
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Hey! At least I posted something DNC related :P
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-08-15 17:27:27
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Sylph.Dancingharuhi said: »
Shiva.Flionheart said: »
Sylph.Dancingharuhi said: »
Shiva.Flionheart said: »
Sylph.Dancingharuhi said: »
Carbuncle.Asymptotic said: »
Why did this thread explode into an angry time :(

Since the random insults about 3 pages back. Seems the norm here.

Yeah, That Kiaru chick should really stop insulting people randomly.

Are we reading the same thread?

I'd imagine so, there's only one DNC dev thread.

OMG GUYZ SOMEONE DIDN'T INSULT HER! WHITE KNIGHT! WHITE KNIGHT!

Welcome to Ad Hominem 101. Winning arguments by insulting the other party.

I'd expect this from Alla, but even they've calmed down in recent years.

Ad hominem? I think you need to research the meaning.

All of your 4 posts on this forum have been defending a chick on the same server as you, after she's instigated and insulted people many times. She is female, and judging by your name I'd guess you're a weeaboo male, making my assumption that you are a white knight pretty much a sure thing.
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By Sylph.Kimble 2011-08-15 17:31:03
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Its most likely just her newest e-b/f to get items for her, buy her things etc.

Oh, and I was wrong, Should try for Phurba + Twlight for DNC. Phurba Comes from Apadmek so should be easy enough to get.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-08-15 17:32:35
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Sylph.Kimble said: »
Its most likely just her newest e-b/f to get items for her, buy her things etc.

Oh, and I was wrong, Should try for Phurba + Twlight for DNC. Phurba Comes from Apadmek so should be easy enough to get.

Ah thanks, I'll get on that.

And I imagined so, he seems like the type. Wouldn't surprise me if it's the same person on a different account tbh.
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By Cerberus.Mystina 2011-08-15 17:36:35
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Sylph.Kimble said: »
Its most likely just her newest e-b/f to get items for her, buy her things etc.

Don't forget the true love chocolate in the bazzar for 99999999 which is always the mark of a true online e-love.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-08-15 17:37:54
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Cerberus.Mystina said: »
Sylph.Kimble said: »
Its most likely just her newest e-b/f to get items for her, buy her things etc.

Don't forget the true love chocolate in the bazzar for 99999999 which is always the mark of a true online e-love.

I bought one of those and ate it infront of someone, they put it in the bazaar for 99,999 by accident

Nom nom nom

I had many QQs
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By Sylph.Kimble 2011-08-15 17:38:05
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Hey now! I have a ring in my bazaar for that much D: Then again, shes actually sitting right behind me, lol.
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By Cerberus.Vaness 2011-08-15 17:39:59
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Shiva.Flionheart said: »
Cerberus.Mystina said: »
Sylph.Kimble said: »
Its most likely just her newest e-b/f to get items for her, buy her things etc.

Don't forget the true love chocolate in the bazzar for 99999999 which is always the mark of a true online e-love.

I bought one of those and ate it infront of someone, they put it in the bazaar for 99,999 by accident

Nom nom nom

I had many QQs

You're so mean >:(
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-08-15 17:40:45
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Cerberus.Vaness said: »
Shiva.Flionheart said: »
Cerberus.Mystina said: »
Sylph.Kimble said: »
Its most likely just her newest e-b/f to get items for her, buy her things etc.

Don't forget the true love chocolate in the bazzar for 99999999 which is always the mark of a true online e-love.

I bought one of those and ate it infront of someone, they put it in the bazaar for 99,999 by accident

Nom nom nom

I had many QQs

You're so mean >:(

The tears were the tastiest sauce
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By Ramuh.Thunderz 2011-08-15 17:42:48
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Who is this guy?

go away
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-08-15 17:42:52
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Shiva.Flionheart said: »
Cerberus.Vaness said: »
Shiva.Flionheart said: »
Cerberus.Mystina said: »
Sylph.Kimble said: »
Its most likely just her newest e-b/f to get items for her, buy her things etc.

Don't forget the true love chocolate in the bazzar for 99999999 which is always the mark of a true online e-love.

I bought one of those and ate it infront of someone, they put it in the bazaar for 99,999 by accident

Nom nom nom

I had many QQs

You're so mean >:(

The tears were the tastiest sauce

This string of posts made me laugh so hard I nearly choked to deaath.
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By Sylph.Dancingharuhi 2011-08-15 17:43:09
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DNC is currently amazing for low-manning things outside Abyssea with the exception of VWNMs.

Inside Abyssea it's a poor tank with nothing to raise it above the rest of the crowd for pretty much anything considering NIN/DNC has all of the useful Waltzes and Haste Samba.

They'd need to lower the recast on Waltzes IV and V before it could even be considered in the running again considering a decently geared WHM can heal as much a Waltz V in less than 2s and then do it again 6-7 seconds later. "But a WHM can't DD!" you say? Why not just have a proper DD like a WAR or a MNK come along to tank? MP is unlimited in Abyssea and you'd also add almost a full set of Red procs or Blue procs during blunt time.

SE's announcement that they're doing nothing to the job without horribly gimping it in some other way basically drives a nail into the coffin. There are better DD jobs you can put in place of a DNC, there are better healers you can put in place of a DNC and there are better tanks you can put in place of a DNC. This is why it's solo only, and solo doesn't matter in Abyssea due to the proc system.

<- 90 DNC
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By Sylph.Kimble 2011-08-15 17:48:01
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Thing is, with the update to Climatic Flourish and having Rudra's storm and being able to easilly make darkness, DNC isnt as bad of a DD as people make it out to be. On top of that, they can actually take care of themselves.

Any time I see a NIN/DNC in abyssea, makes me want to shoot my self. If I had a choice between NIN/DNC or actually just bringing a DNC, id much rather bring the DNC.

Only thing id really like to see, is move Healing Waltz and Divine Waltz into its own thing.
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-08-15 17:48:23
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English Version Up:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/11917-Suggestions-to-Improve-Rebalance-Vanadiel-s-Divas?p=170139&viewfull=1#post170139
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-08-15 17:52:03
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From the english text, I see there's something I missed, and it makes it sound like they might be doing the regain thing the way I implemented it in my suggestion thread :O
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