SE Does See The Problem With Pld....

God I hope this war/dnc is tryin to troll.

well, when you compare it to his war...

To address point #2:
What if SE reduced the -dmg taken% cap on all other jobs except pld? idk maybe reduce dmg taken cap to 20 or 25 for most jobs. It would make it harder to tank as a war or mnk or w/e and at least make pld a little bit more viable, right?

Problem there is, if you remove/hinder DDs ability to tank (and yes, shadows/3rd eye would still work in that setup), you now have one job out of twenty that becomes required for a lot of things, and mostly kills the idea of doing things lowman, unless your lowman group is sporting an Aegis or Ochain (or both).

SE actually sort of went the other way with this, by letting Mythic/Relic PLDs break the cap the other way.

I don't think it would be good for the game, though; I love paladin, but I don't want the game as a whole to suffer, and making any job essentially required is bad for the game.

edit: Oh, and you could make -damage taken cap at 5 on monk, and it would still be a better way to go for a lot of fights. Counterstance+HP in Abyssea is essentially idiot proof and works on a lot of things.

If SE did that all the DD would say "wtf SE!" for nerfing them.

I may love you


So, your WAR doesn't pull hate off a Sattva PLD. I think we're narrowing in on the problem.

Well I don't really think you can fix pld in abyssea.

SE has backed themselves into a corner with PLD's design and the present state of game mechanics.

If the job is not useful, then we have the undesirable situation in which the job goes more or less ignored aside from soloing and the occasional LS member bringing the job to events anyway more or less because they can instead of any actual utility. This essentially describes the situation of the past few years and can also be applied to several other jobs as well.

The other side of that coin is the situation where PLD is not only useful, but necessary in order to succeed at a given event. This isn't quite as big a problem as it used to be since jobs are so easy to level and gear now but it still strikes me as poor game design. This is the situation SE seems to be trending towards with Voidwatch, and is largely due to the way SE has made great efforts to push other jobs out of the turtle tanking niche in an attempt to give PLD something to work with. There are some other, less popular options that may gain ground in time which is the most desirable scenario, but it's a fine line.

Hmmm let PLD use Great Axes again and give them access to raging rush while using a shield! (they could use GAXE in the beta right?)

Nope. They've already said they won't boost our damage, anyway.

Seriously, where did you hear that?

/NA PS2 Beta

edit: besides, if we're getting anything back from the old days, I want the old shield rules back

The fact he doesn't have SAM or NIN leveled as a viable sub is all the info I need.

Please work on improving WAR before even contemplating a Ukon.

Makes them look smarter than someone who wouldn't do that... The NM is there, may as well use it to your advantage.

I know I'm a little late to the party


But, seriously?

I'm eating you.. right now.. how does it feel?

I'm overwhelmed with both fear and arousal.

I like it

;) Crunchatize me cap'n.

(k sorry for derailing :x)

Hey CC you *** amazing taru you! I'm dropping my Rajas and getting Sattva so YOU CAN DO THAT TOO!!! Also dumping my haste gear down to 12% needs moar enmity for TP.

ILU CC

<3 You're too good to me.

You hurt the roof of my mouth! *** you!

You'll learn to love it, I promise.

Not supposed to sub anything other than sam on warrior, ever.

Chill.