Lowman Odin Strategy

Gradd next time you do Odin any chance me and my wife could come help you out and get the clear for the atma? We've already got T1/2/3 feathers for access

Send me a /tell on monday my Group generally does ein Runs on Monday/thursday or we try too anyways, and yea I don't mind letting you get the clear.

Thanks :D, I'm a kannagi NIN to and dont mind sacificing myself :D

I'll give some insight on this topic as I also run a low-man LS that does einherjar 2x/week. T1's are cake, we crush them in <15 mins with 6-8 ppl. T2's same story, maybe add 5 mins. T3's are a tossup. Depending on the boss those can be stupid easy or annoying as hell (looking at you dvegr boss ***).

As for odin. We have yet to successfully drop him but every time we've got him below 10%, and most recently we timed out @ 5% with 5 people. (would have been 7 but 2 didn't realize they were missing a feather >.>) Our setup usually looks like this: Drk/sam (apocalypse) War/sam (Bravura) Pld/Nin Rdm/nin Rdm/smn Whm/sch Brd/whm and usually a 3rd rdm/smn.

Brd is a MUST, he won't put up dreads often, but they suck and slow you down a TON. Remember to stick him with addle also. Pretty sure that's the only enfeeb that will stick consistently.

Adds don't seem like a problem but they've got 150% movement speed, so you can outrun them with flee, but 12% from legs/feet/whatever won't do jack ***. We use a rdm/nin with a good pdt/mdt set and 5 sets of powder boots.

The 75/50/25% 10k needles issue. We use a combination of tools to get passed this, and it usually goes off without a hitch. First, PETS! Everyone who isn't reliant on their subjob can /smn and pull up an avatar to cut the dmg. Those that need /job for w/e reason (tanks+dd's mainly), I had some Poseidon's rings made up for them. So ideally we've got 12-14~ bodies absorbing the dmg. Second, PDT SETS! Obviously your tank is going to have one of these, but make your DD build a set also, and tell your mages to toss on earth staff or a jelly ring or whatever. This helps TREMENDOUSLY.

Lastly, don't underestimate zantetsuken. By this point you're going to be pretty low on time with a low-man situation. Usually this is what happens to us: We have to slow damage to rebuff before 25% intervals (remember full dispel every 10%), and by the time we hit 20%, we're usually in a mad dash to get him to 10% asap. Which obviously leads to enmity issues. If your dd's go down for zantets and you don't have time to unweak. You're done. Also keep in mind, even if your tank has solid hate, there is a good chance he'll AoE terror your DD's in range of zantets (happened to us last run).

All in all, he's still a challenge @ 90, with <10 people. We've fought him 3x now, each with 5-7 people. First was a wipe @ 9%, 2nd 7%, and 3rd @ 5%.

tl;dr Odin is a *** and he's not to be underestimated if you're low man. Hope this helps.

Only stipulation with Migawari-Tanking anything is that you have to be very, very careful with the amount of TP that is being fed... co-ordinate with your fellow members to ensure that they aren't giving Odin a reason to insta-kill your NIN while his Migawari is down.

Just make sure to take a NIN with Migiwari and make sure its up every 25% of his HP.

My group did Odin with 6 recently with Migiwari it really is a joke.

So I have a question here.
We are having a debate in ls.
Geirrothr (10k needle from odin)

is physical or magical?
I say physical, my friend say magical caus he said shell blocked some dmg (wtf?)

wiki description:
Family: Odin
Type: Physical?
Can be dispelled: N/A
Utsusemi/Blink absorb: Ignores shadows
Range: Unknown
Notes: Odin uses this ability every time he loses 25% of health. Equivalent of 10000 Needles. Before using this move, he has a monologue: "The true power of Gungnir cometh not from the blade herself, but from the countless souls it hath sent to the corpse-halls of the Underworld!"

thoughs?

Pretty sure it's physical.

Pretty sure it's physical.

same here, but we are having this war in ls atm >.<

I was always led to believe it was magical, but on the other hand I always went whm, so I just know how to keep and back out/recast shellra V at the right times :|

I was always led to believe it was magical, but on the other hand I always went whm, so I just know how to keep and back out/recast shellra V at the right times :|

I'm 100% positive it's physical. I tanked Odin a few times BLU/WAR and took very little damage from it with -50% PDT. It works exactly like 1000 needles.

We're you like 18 standing in range?
10k/18=550 if you have stoneskin on (about 300 dmg) you take like 250
if you have pet job such as smns or whm/smns
it's 10k/18ppl + num. of pets up while he does it + SS and it goes...

It's a bit weird for me caus the last time I did Odin, our ls was using 18 ppl using smns + rng. (some whm was /smn if they didnt had /sch).Using about 6 - 7 smns, that divid the dmg by alot with the SS.

Mind explaining you strategi and how many you were in range?