Zerg Drk Still Applicable?

smart people don't let their associates upgrade annihilator

A 1420 high on smite during a zerg? Umm...

iirc it's base delay + weapon delay. For example, that would mean that Verethragna caps at 531*0.2=106.2 delay. 280-5+51=326 delay, 326*(1-x)=106.2, x=67.4% haste (691/1024). Anything beyond that wouldn't help with Vere + Tantra Cyclas +2.

A lot of the new mobs SE is introducing is resistant to Soul Eater, so it makes DRK Zerg something you can't really depend on anymore, old content you would do fine on, but anything released from abyssea and beyond you'll hit something that will have some form of resistance to Soul Eater, which anyone who knows what DRK zerging is, is where all the damage from that KC/Mkris comes from.

We been doing DLs with Vere MNKx2 #1(90) #2(85) WHM RDM THF(Twashtar 90) and a 2 boxed BRD. With no 2hours used and normally pop 3-5 DL/run depending on luck farming the pop items

Means mnk gets a lot less of a boost from their typical damage during zergs than other jobs do =\

Interesting, thank you Night.

yea, that mnk is trash.


The gun has its uses and works well vs trash mobs like dynamis and einherjar. Busting out 2-3k coro every 3 seconds is nice

How much do your victory smites do outside of abyssea, vs IT con bosses lol? We're not parsing vs EP trash mobs, this is versus arch dynamis lord. He had 18% crit rate or so. Warriors all parsed 65% crit rate. If VS doesn't crit then it's gonna be ***.

I'm talking about ARCH dynamis lord, not NQ easy as ***NQ dynamis lord. Wtfux do you even need to zerg that lol? And he's not a trash monk, he's got the best gear in the game. VS is just ***when you don't crit.

even if this wasn't the case, "normal" methods of damage have increased, while drk zerging has not, since they've been at 26% haste since 75 and nothing beats kraken club still (obviously)

all they gain is hp, which is certainly not enough for them to keep up with everything else available these days



welcome to what polearm samurai was basically doing back at 75

Huh.................... ._.

I'm pretty sure I've seen some SS on smite doing 3-4k on Arch DL. Impetus really works well, ya know.

well no ***, sherlock. Why is he only getting 18% crit rate with impetus and blood rage up? he should be capped att/acc in an arch dl zerg. or even more if you bother to bring cors, or have the ppl

cept the part where they actually hit that high consistently while keeping the ws frequency at 3 seconds, not to mention the awesome solo darks.

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it's a cool one

18% crit avg during the whole fight. 2 hours wore off before it died as well as other various buffs. Why not go fight ADL yourself and post the numbers you get. Zerging kirin or AV at lvl 90 isn't the same ***as ADL.

Of course you see some 3-4k smites, if your crits proc...
I've done 5k ukkos, but you certainly don't avg that. One missed hit and there goes your impetus.

Again, mnks shouldn't 2hr (does nothing) and a miss is made up in several seconds at attack speed cap. A 1420 *high* is horrible. And it better be dead before SV march and impetus wear.

SIGH

Of course luck always plays a role. When you're hitting the acc cap (omg 95%!) the chances of not getting good impetus VS off are highly unlikely. With BR and the crit from vs itself, is 30%. and this doesnt include* any ddex tiers you're hitting.

Another DRK thread hijacked into MNK-WAR *** measuring contests.

Non empy melee did well under 1k dmg ws avg. If the monk had a cor the numbers would be higher sure. There simply isn't room for one for that fight, you need specific jobs. Had to add in the thief for th, drg for angon and jumps. 2 bards, 3 smns, 2 rdms, whms then rest are dd. ADL can be a *** to kill as he splits into multiple copies, it's no where near a 100% win, kill it before buffs fade deal. Wars would parse 100% crit if it died that fast, but it doesn't.

You forgot sam!

There's probably an Asian Penis joke in there somewhere. I don't wanna get Krizz'd though.

1)Statistical perspective: that parse should be thrown out the window as war vs mnk since mnk WSed during an imunity time.

2) personal perspective: I have to wonder about this parse as a relic warrior beat a 3rd(I assume ukon warrior) during something where you should have mighty strikes/BR(helps RR too, but I mean its ukko's)/after math(increased melee rate). Looking at the mnk he got 4 WSs in the entire fight. Thats not a fight that sounds like it took over 60seconds(BR duration) given tp gain with marchs. 1400 is a horrible high given that he should have had BR.

I agree war>mnk in a zerg, but this parse has a lot I would question in it.

drk with caladbolg's aftermath and last resort with haste/bard songs would win right?

Over what? Multihit Souleater, yeah.

Warrior or Monk with the same buffs, no.

I can't testify myself about arch dl, but from what I heard from forum linkshells and friends, its extremely squishy and good players do it with less than 12. You must be doing something horribly wrong. There was a video floating around of a 18man group doing it in less than 90, so im not sure how buffs wearing are an issue with good players.

We'll probably be doing it later this week when we get enough ppl online, so I'll post my results then.

yup, but also, drk's got access to twilight scythe which would be nice if a mob did invincible or something like that

the relic war beat him cause the 2nd ukon WS during an invince too. They were close, but relic war isn't shitty at all outside abyssea. We all pulled ahead not due to the WS but our 100% crit dot damage. The WS is only 1/2 the dmg, still out dot the monk 2 to 1 due to the ODD And 100% crits.
The 3rd war, who has coin weapon, only parsed around 17k total dmg, due to no ODD, but also had one ws vs invince. Dunno if you guys have fought it but can't really time ***to not ws during his invince.

mnk avged 136 per hit btw, I avg'd 400 dmg per hit. 15,947 vs 7771 in dot dmg.

You can probobaly kill it with 12, if you are lucky and kill the right one when it splits. If you don't then you are ***, or if it does his insta death moves and wipes your dd out. We bring 18 to raise the chances of a kill. This parse wsa from killing 2 copies.

Over one-hander multihit zerg, probably, but only for lack of Last Resort making up for proper full buffs.

OAT or OA2-4 Scythe or GS going absolutely crazy? Tougher call.

Depends how much mob there is to beat the piss out of, or rather just how long the fight lasts. In the truest 'zerg' sense it would flipflop across a whole bunch of durations, with Caladbolg/Redemption winning in obscenely short fights because of Sekka Self-SC, multihits powering on past them until Blood Weapon and eventually Souleater wears, and then Vanilla DD'ing eventually evening it out.

I think the answer is actually 'Drop your Sekka Self-SC then switch to 2-hander multihit for Souleater'.

At 75 on Warrior I was able to out damage Mkris/Rune Chopper/etc DRKs on zergs. At 80 I was able best my friend who used Octave Club. It's pretty much a dead king. I still think it's cool as *** though. Especially when an Elvaan does it. They have such ridiculous body motions along with the club swings.

What I've been wondering, and I couldn't tell if it's been asked in this thread though(all that War/mnk/sam *** measuring) is how many of the Voidwatch monsters build/have heavy resistance to Souleater? I assume all of them? I really haven't been able to get into Voidwatch due to my cohort's and my own schedules.

Voidwatch isn't about zerging, it's about triggering as much weakness as possible, not just simply killing the boss with as few as possible or fast as possible with a zerg. You won't get any good drops at all if you kill it like that.

We don't even bring mnk or war to dd them lol, a drk would surely get one shot by an aoe if he tried to zerg.