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Jobs been gimped?
PUP ranged attack is fixed.
PUP melee is ***.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2009-04-09 16:16:43
Surely they would have mentioned making adjustments to BST or Charm resistance though... Still, somebody check SCH >.> EDIT: Please tell me you're joking Aledacia... I don't play PUP but that's ridiculous.
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By Fairy.Tbest 2009-04-09 16:17:35
Yarly, Enternius. Maybe they just 'fixed' them from what they were before because they were too easy to charm. And who actually uses Pup melee anyway?
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2009-04-09 16:20:49
Not like PUP needs a nerf of any kind though.
PUP friend tested it. =/ Puppet keeps missing & hitting low DMG on EP.
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By Fairy.Xxnumbertwoxx 2009-04-09 16:25:36
Nightfyre said: Not like PUP needs a nerf of any kind though. Ya rly, poor pups keep getting kicked in the balls lol
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By Fairy.Tbest 2009-04-09 16:30:00
Yeah... But seriously... When would you want to use your puppet to melee instead of /ra or nuke?
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By Gilgamesh.Alyria 2009-04-09 16:31:49
I like Pup and I know alot of people who enjoy playing pup. So to nerf a job ppl enjoy is ridiculous no matter what your opinions are on pup. I bet you all would be bitching if they nerfed pld or dnc, so let the ppl have the job they enjoy to be fixed.
SE always fuks up
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By Fairy.Xxnumbertwoxx 2009-04-09 16:34:00
Alyria said: I bet you all would be bitching if they nerfed pld or dnc, so let the ppl have the job they enjoy to be fixed. *** yeah I'd be pissed. I love DNC. And I give PUPs all the respect in the world. I wish they got more invites, the few times I've partied with PUP has been hella fun :)
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By Fairy.Tbest 2009-04-09 16:34:15
O.oa *Wonders who Alyria is talking to.* And if you're talking to me... You obviously don't know my opinions on Pup, Pld, or Dnc. XD
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2009-04-09 16:34:19
Tbest said: Yeah... But seriously... When would you want to use your puppet to melee instead of /ra or nuke? I don't know, I don't play PUP. If I want to solo, I'll pull out BLM, BLU, SMN, or even my DRG. I'm trying out DNC right now, there's a job I can solo with. Why am I going to level PUP, especially with this kind of stuff happening? Tbest you're coming across very "I don't care" about the PUP thing, I think Alyria really was talking to you...
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By Fairy.Tbest 2009-04-09 16:39:07
Yeah, I think so too. Which is why I responded to her. And no, I don't really care about them nerfing automaton melee damage because the two alternatives vastly surpass it even un-nerfed.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2009-04-09 16:40:51
Tbest said: Yeah, I think so too. Which is why I responded to her. And no, I don't really care about them nerfing automaton melee damage because the two alternatives vastly surpass it even un-nerfed. Lol I guess it's not terribly significant then, but it still sucks.
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By Fairy.Tbest 2009-04-09 16:42:49
Yeah, but that's like crying over them nerfing Blm melee damage. You never, EVER melee with Blm, so why cry over it?
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2009-04-09 16:46:49
Tbest said: Yeah, but that's like crying over them nerfing Blm melee damage. You never, EVER melee with Blm, so why cry over it? I wish you'd tell that to them...
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By Sylph.Feyen 2009-04-09 17:18:03
Scizor said: Not true a test server is there to check for all errors prior to any updates going live, all code should be compared to the original regardless of how long it would take.
If SE dont inspect all the code its just lazy and bad practice So if you knew the updates were what they were, would you specifically look to make sure that RNG attacks were not affected? That BST's Charm was not either? They may have a test server, but those 'glitches' are very arbitrary and not obvious. I can understand being upset about it if WHM was messed up or RDM, and even then, test servers don't act the same way as a full server that's managing 2000+ accounts at one time.
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2009-04-09 17:24:00
Aledacia said: PUP ranged attack is fixed.
PUP melee is ***. this is just great, now I have to piss more gil on attachments to make Drille hit harder. THANK YOU SE, FOR SCREWING MY PUP UP THE ***!
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By Garuda.Wooooodum 2009-04-09 20:38:32
I just whiffed Sidewinder, I think they nerfed Ranger weapon skills ><
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2009-04-09 20:41:17
Wooooodum said: I just whiffed Sidewinder, I think they nerfed Ranger weapon skills >< THey've already done that >O
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By Ramuh.Scizor 2009-04-09 22:00:56
Feyen said: Scizor said: Not true a test server is there to check for all errors prior to any updates going live, all code should be compared to the original regardless of how long it would take.
If SE dont inspect all the code its just lazy and bad practice So if you knew the updates were what they were, would you specifically look to make sure that RNG attacks were not affected? That BST's Charm was not either? They may have a test server, but those 'glitches' are very arbitrary and not obvious. I can understand being upset about it if WHM was messed up or RDM, and even then, test servers don't act the same way as a full server that's managing 2000+ accounts at one time. I dont work for SE i dont know what they plan to implement. If youd taken the time to read everything properly you would understand what I was refering too. Any company that is in charge of a server has a program in place that is capable of scanning and finding any data mismatches, which is done by a side by side comparison checker. And as for "'glitches' are very arbitrary and not obvious" as I stated above SE should have picked up on this on the test server.
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By Ramuh.Scizor 2009-04-09 22:03:42
"test servers don't act the same way as a full server that's managing 2000+ accounts at one time"
Actually they do, all the coding is preset by the programmers.
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By Ramuh.Scizor 2009-04-09 22:10:55
Just on a final note, PUP is an excellent job that deserves more credit. Just because the majority of the player base doesnt understand how it works or where it fits in doesnt make it a "loljob".
If your looking for a job that will make you think and keep you on your toes I suggest PUP. Theres not a single job that will make you think more.
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2009-04-09 22:14:24
Triple post!
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By Pandemonium.Kajidourden 2009-04-09 22:16:13
Scizor said: Just on a final note, PUP is an excellent job that deserves more credit. Just because the majority of the player base doesnt understand how it works or where it fits in doesnt make it a "loljob".
If your looking for a job that will make you think and keep you on your toes I suggest PUP. Theres not a single job that will make you think more. ^This
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2009-04-09 22:17:59
Kajidourden said: Scizor said: Just on a final note, PUP is an excellent job that deserves more credit. Just because the majority of the player base doesnt understand how it works or where it fits in doesnt make it a "loljob".
If your looking for a job that will make you think and keep you on your toes I suggest PUP. Theres not a single job that will make you think more. ^This is a lieyou're right it is.
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By Ramuh.Scizor 2009-04-09 22:18:06
Ludoggy said: Triple post! Its only a triple post because im too drunk to care >_>
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By Ramuh.Scizor 2009-04-09 22:19:01
Ludoggy newest member of the "I know *** all society"
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2009-04-09 22:19:58
I never signed to join.
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By Pandemonium.Kajidourden 2009-04-09 22:20:32
Ludoggy said: Kajidourden said: Scizor said: Just on a final note, PUP is an excellent job that deserves more credit. Just because the majority of the player base doesnt understand how it works or where it fits in doesnt make it a "loljob".
If your looking for a job that will make you think and keep you on your toes I suggest PUP. Theres not a single job that will make you think more. ^This is a lieyou're right it is. Lol, this coming from someone who wont even show their jobs/gear so we can all lol at the gimpness.
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2009-04-09 22:21:29
Kajidourden said: Ludoggy said: Kajidourden said: Scizor said: Just on a final note, PUP is an excellent job that deserves more credit. Just because the majority of the player base doesnt understand how it works or where it fits in doesnt make it a "loljob".
If your looking for a job that will make you think and keep you on your toes I suggest PUP. Theres not a single job that will make you think more. ^This is a lieyou're right it is. Lol, this coming from someone who wont even show their jobs/gear so we can all lol at the gimpness. I think you need to look on the left of your post.
Just heard from a Puppetmaster friend that suddenly his Automaton's damage has weakened a lot.
Yesterday on Lesser Colibri: Daze 400-500 DMG.
Today: ~70's, with 20 DMG ranged attacks.
Did SE announce they were gimping jobs? And, is anyone else having shit like this happen?
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