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 Asura.Krebons
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By Asura.Krebons 2009-04-09 07:32:41
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even all that they have to jump through, any programmer thats not a COMPLETE moron knows whats being changed and whats not.
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By Ramuh.Scizor 2009-04-09 07:38:05
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Krebons said:
even all that they have to jump through, any programmer thats not a COMPLETE moron knows whats being changed and whats not.


Totally agree, youd think SE would have picked this up when they applied it to the test server. When I update the serves where I work its always applied to test and checked for any side effects or errors. Starting to think SE just dont care anymore...
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By Sylph.Feyen 2009-04-09 07:40:43
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http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/polnews/news15831.shtml

SquareEnix said:
Since the implementation of the latest version update on Apr. 8, 2009, we have confirmed the following issues. Investigation and recovery work is currently underway.

- Able to store augmented items with NPC that can store certain equipments
* When augmented items are returned, bonus attributes("augments") will be removed from them.

- Amount of damage done by Automaton's range attack has decreased.

- Amount of damage done by certain blue magic has decreased.

- Beastmaster's ability "Charm" is invalid against certain monsters.

- Effect of Scholar's ability "Accession" will not apply on following white magic.
Enfire/Enblizzard/Enaero/Enstone/Enthunder/Enwater

We apologize for any invonvenience they may be causing.
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By Unicorn.Excesspain 2009-04-09 07:43:52
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Don't forget the last update where they doubled the delay of ranged attacks!
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By Asura.Krebons 2009-04-09 07:44:33
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so they just decided they arent gonna let us know when they will fix it or even if they are working on it, nice SE nice.. im going ot bed
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By Fenrir.Phatstackodax 2009-04-09 08:02:38
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wow. as being someone who's jobs are rng, blu, and bst. i cant but feel rejected ><;
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By Cerberus.Saiya 2009-04-09 08:02:47
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Feyen said:
http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/polnews/news15831.shtml

SquareEnix said:
Since the implementation of the latest version update on Apr. 8, 2009, we have confirmed the following issues. Investigation and recovery work is currently underway.

- Able to store augmented items with NPC that can store certain equipments
* When augmented items are returned, bonus attributes("augments") will be removed from them.

- Amount of damage done by Automaton's range attack has decreased.

- Amount of damage done by certain blue magic has decreased.

- Beastmaster's ability "Charm" is invalid against certain monsters.

- Effect of Scholar's ability "Accession" will not apply on following white magic.
Enfire/Enblizzard/Enaero/Enstone/Enthunder/Enwater

We apologize for any invonvenience they may be causing.
Krebons said:
so they just decided they arent gonna let us know when they will fix it or even if they are working on it, nice SE nice.. im going ot bed
Square Enix said:
Investigation and recovery work is currently underway
Sorry to sound harsh, but don't you read? Or do you just enjoy complaining?
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By Cerberus.Saiya 2009-04-09 08:05:03
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Phatstackodax said:
wow. as being someone who's jobs are rng, blu, and bst. i cant but feel rejected ><;
Heehee^^ it's almost like they aimed it at you personally :o Did you sleep with the head of SE's girlfriend or something? <,< lol
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By Fairy.Blackmist 2009-04-09 08:07:40
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Saiya said:
Phatstackodax said:
wow. as being someone who's jobs are rng, blu, and bst. i cant but feel rejected ><;
Heehee^^ it's almost like they aimed it at you personally :o Did you sleep with the head of SE's girlfriend or something? <,< lol


Whoops...
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By Phoenix.Amael 2009-04-09 08:10:51
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Feyen said:
http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/polnews/news15831.shtml

SquareEnix said:
Since the implementation of the latest version update on Apr. 8, 2009, we have confirmed the following issues. Investigation and recovery work is currently underway.

- Able to store augmented items with NPC that can store certain equipments
* When augmented items are returned, bonus attributes("augments") will be removed from them.

- Amount of damage done by Automaton's range attack has decreased.

- Amount of damage done by certain blue magic has decreased.

- Beastmaster's ability "Charm" is invalid against certain monsters.

- Effect of Scholar's ability "Accession" will not apply on following white magic.
Enfire/Enblizzard/Enaero/Enstone/Enthunder/Enwater

We apologize for any invonvenience they may be causing.


Add another (Just talked a GM about it) Sublimation: Charge effect is lost upon entering mog house.

meh! always happens with big updates
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By Fenrir.Phatstackodax 2009-04-09 08:22:42
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>< i knew she was gonna cause me trouble somewhere >.>
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By Asura.Hatheron 2009-04-09 08:24:13
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What annoys me is some doofus has already posted a tag at the bottom of ffxiclopedia stating "Accession no longer works with En-spells as of 4-8-2009 update." Do these people even read that it's error that SE is correcting?

Furthermore, do people even research their info before posting in wiki, or do they know all and see all and write something just because it's OMGwiki?

/rant off
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2009-04-09 08:41:06
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Emergency maintenance today, 10:00-13:00 PST. Do we really have to do this every single time an update comes out? -.- Oh well, at least it's getting fixed.
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By Asura.Hatheron 2009-04-09 08:46:48
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Nightfyre said:
Emergency maintenance today, 10:00-13:00 PST. Do we really have to do this every single time an update comes out? -.- Oh well, at least it's getting fixed.


Thank gawd!
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By Seraph.Darkvision 2009-04-09 09:08:11
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Feyen said:
http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/polnews/news15831.shtml

SquareEnix said:
Since the implementation of the latest version update on Apr. 8, 2009, we have confirmed the following issues. Investigation and recovery work is currently underway.

- Able to store augmented items with NPC that can store certain equipments
* When augmented items are returned, bonus attributes("augments") will be removed from them.

- Amount of damage done by Automaton's range attack has decreased.

- Amount of damage done by certain blue magic has decreased.

- Beastmaster's ability "Charm" is invalid against certain monsters.

- Effect of Scholar's ability "Accession" will not apply on following white magic.
Enfire/Enblizzard/Enaero/Enstone/Enthunder/Enwater

We apologize for any invonvenience they may be causing.


um... was there not a problem with RNG?
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By Pandemonium.Mattr 2009-04-09 09:09:44
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is everyone here just ignorant to the fact when there is that much code in an application, things will break by accident. furthermore, in testing its unlikely you will test everything in the game, when something is this huge, especially when its something that you would not think would change.
The developers work on creating rdm enspell II so you would automatically check sch aoe enspells >.>. That is probably what happened when they were adding it in, but not you or I knows what the code looks like, but i do know when creating an app with a huge size strange things go wrong, thats just programming.
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By Titan.Styxriver 2009-04-09 09:19:54
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I've got 2 phrases.

Unit Tests. Regression testing.

Any programmer knows what those are, it prevents you from breaking ***that was working fine before.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2009-04-09 09:24:45
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Mattr said:
is everyone here just ignorant to the fact when there is that much code in an application, things will break by accident. furthermore, in testing its unlikely you will test everything in the game, when something is this huge, especially when its something that you would not think would change.
The developers work on creating rdm enspell II so you would automatically check sch aoe enspells >.>. That is probably what happened when they were adding it in, but not you or I knows what the code looks like, but i do know when creating an app with a huge size strange things go wrong, thats just programming.

Problem is, that is the *only* one of these errors I can understand. Given that they added in the Tier II Enspells, there would have been code changes around the Tier I spells, one of which might have affected Accession-Enspell. Actually, reading it again I can understand the Storage NPC problem as well since it deals with Augments. The rest of it, however... BST and PUP were not altered in any way except for these bugs, as far as we know. Why was Blue Magic Affected? Errors happen, but these three in particular make no sense.
EDIT: Also, what Styxriver said. Debug your damn code, this many bugs and especially this many serious (and obvious with minimal playtesting on the relevant jobs) bugs should not be happening. Definitely not with this frequency, but better yet not at all.
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By Gilgamesh.Alyria 2009-04-09 09:25:11
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Well either way ppl needa just chill out and wait for them to fix it.... go finish the missions etc. while you wait.
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By Carbuncle.Magistrella 2009-04-09 09:26:14
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Hatheron said:
What annoys me is some doofus has already posted a tag at the bottom of ffxiclopedia stating "Accession no longer works with En-spells as of 4-8-2009 update." Do these people even read that it's error that SE is correcting?

Furthermore, do people even research their info before posting in wiki, or do they know all and see all and write something just because it's OMGwiki?

/rant off


fixed that, thx for the note ^~^
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By Carbuncle.Magistrella 2009-04-09 09:26:56
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Alyria said:
Well either way ppl needa just chill out and wait for them to fix it.... go finish the missions etc. while you wait.


i only say... no more quadavs in pashow, no orcs in jugner, no yagudos in meri... decided to log out since theres not even enough ppl on that want to merit atm -.-
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By Cerberus.Shuhisiihi 2009-04-09 09:32:28
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its horrible how all the beastmen are just wiped out....its so empty it takes hours to get an item that only should take 5 mins... >_>
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By Gilgamesh.Alyria 2009-04-09 09:35:46
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I dunno, there should be plenty around, does only the yagudos in the present drop the item? or can the yagudo etc. drop item in the past too?

meriph [s]
pashow [s]
jugner [s]

But either way they should pop fast anyways or just wait til the rush is over.
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By Carbuncle.Magistrella 2009-04-09 09:36:21
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Rowland said:
Magistrella said:

i only say... no more quadavs in pashow, no orcs in jugner, no yagudos in meri... decided to log out since theres not even enough ppl on that want to merit atm -.-

Too bad they didn't put this mission in the past, maybe the crystal war would have never happened because everyone was raping beastmen so much.


hahahaha yeah that would've been great XD then we wouldnt stumble through ruins the whole day *g*
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By Carbuncle.Magistrella 2009-04-09 09:37:10
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Alyria said:
I dunno, there should be plenty around, does only the yagudos in the present drop the item? or can the yagudo etc. drop item in the past too?

meriph [s]
pashow [s]
jugner [s]

But either way they should pop fast anyways or just wait til the rush is over.


only the ones in present drop it, only in the areas (god why the *** couldnt SE make that in strongholds? there are thousands of them) and the repop time is probably like 16 mins~ ><
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By Asura.Hatheron 2009-04-09 09:39:10
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Magistrella said:
Hatheron said:
What annoys me is some doofus has already posted a tag at the bottom of ffxiclopedia stating "Accession no longer works with En-spells as of 4-8-2009 update." Do these people even read that it's error that SE is correcting?

Furthermore, do people even research their info before posting in wiki, or do they know all and see all and write something just because it's OMGwiki?

/rant off


fixed that, thx for the note ^~^


^.^; Thanks!

Sorry for the harshness. At least it's an error that they are correcting.

/whine off >.<
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By Carbuncle.Magistrella 2009-04-09 09:40:31
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Hatheron said:
Magistrella said:
Hatheron said:
What annoys me is some doofus has already posted a tag at the bottom of ffxiclopedia stating "Accession no longer works with En-spells as of 4-8-2009 update." Do these people even read that it's error that SE is correcting?

Furthermore, do people even research their info before posting in wiki, or do they know all and see all and write something just because it's OMGwiki?

/rant off


fixed that, thx for the note ^~^


^.^; Thanks!

Sorry for the harshness. At least it's an error that they are correcting.

/whine off >.<


no harshness there, im sick of editing all those kiddies thoughts adding to pages, theories never been proven or no clarification notes added.... :/
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By Cerberus.Shuhisiihi 2009-04-09 09:42:43
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wow just got my last one 3/3 took forever >_>......
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