Ninjutsu Skill

Has anyone figured out just how much Ninjutsu skill = How much Ninjutsu damage? Basically would Ninjutsu skill +5 beat out MAB+6?

5 points of skill won't beat out MAB 6... you can easily test that with a hecate's earring and Ninja Hatsuburi or astute cape.

Step 1. Cast without the hecate's while wearing the head or cape
Step 2. Cast again with the hecate's with the head or cape off
Step 3. Compare the results
Step 4. Profit!

forgot the step where you ???, before you profit.

Ninjutsu skill does not play a part in its damage unlike elemental skill. Its helps lower resist but its not as well as INT and MAB. INT increases base spell damage, MAB is a multip. for the spell itself. Use MAB>INT>Skill in elemental damage and reverse for buffing, while skill and int will switch places depending on what your fighting.

wat?

You missed the memo on a previous update, ninjutsu damage is based on skill now.

Nin skill does effect damage since the lv 90 update i beleive or might have been the 85 can't remember which it was.

But, this still begs the question. Has anyone figured out the skill to damage ratio? lol

just do what the 2nd poster said.....and quickly test it...takes 5m on mobs that won't resist you at all (like level 1 mobs)

I would like to know what the ratio is as well, but from what little testing I have done it seems MAB does give slightly more damage than skill.

But you have to remember that a higher skill level reduces the chance of getting resisted as well as giving damage, so if your fighting something that you probably won't get resisted on use MAB gear and harder stuff that resists more skill gear might be better in that situation.

Just in case an innocent blm rolls across this and thinks it's true, I want to clarify that elemental skill does 0 to increase damage. It simply helps you resist less.

Wat II

Naked Suiton: Ni 304 dmg 68INT 370skill

Naked Suiton: Ni 304 dmg 68INT 400skill

30 skill and not one point of dmg? Did I miss something, I though they made it so skill would effect damage of ninjutsu now.

Edit: forgot to add this was on huge hornets outside bastok. Very quick test

Need to try something with more HP. Go to qufim and test on a crab.

What does the HP of a mob have to do with the damage ninjutsu skill produces?

It's a nuke not a multi hit. It will always show it's full dmg regardless of the target hp.

This thread is full of retard.

I guess i did miss the update on skill vs damage I'll recheck but as posted on elemental skill i miss spoke, its resist level vs element skill will increases the damage from INT and MAB. Saying 200 skill would lower the likely hood of it being resisted and having the INT and MAB being caluc.ed into the total damage.

I just did a quick search on Skill vs. INT/MAB to make sure i am correct but at no point at all does if and only if 1 base increase override a multipier. MAB combined with INT will over run skill. You are saying I.E 20damage based with that one resist would out do a 19base no resist with a multip of 2 which MAB gives magic? total damage before resist for each
base Skill +7 Ni giving 78 base damage.
Vs.
Base skill Ni giving 78 base damage and a 6x multipier

Its always been INT and MAB increase for the multipiers yield more damage.
INT gives more damage to the spell and INT directly effects the resist while MAB multipies the damage. Ill do a quick test when i get home to back the finding but hell we already have the data even tho people did not understand what he said since its not a mulitp. hit attack the 1st attack will overkill and the damage will be shown on display which shows no damage increase with skill. Only thing it does not show which can be questioned is its resist on higher level mobs which questions that most ninjas had pre-update is using ninjutsu worth it since our crit and DPS was based off our katanas out doing spells.

It may work on a tier basis like other skills. If that 30 skill didn't break a tier it would make no change.

this ^... /flaceplam

I wanted to make a fast test to see it myself.

To begin with, the info of skill implied in damages comes from official site :
Update from 07 decembre 2010, Battle related section...

I tested with Constant mobs Wild bunnies from E ronf, one shot 100% , constant day, weather, gears, skill capped and merited etc...)

I only changed head gear :
1/Empty 2/INT 3/Koga+5% 4/Hatsuburi+1=Ninjutsu+5

According to numbers :
ICHI had no benefit from Ninjutsus Skill to damages.
NI had no benefit from Ninjutsus Skill to damages.
SAN had a benefit from ninjutsu skill.
(something like +0.3% per +1 skill?)

I'll test more, to confirm or not, with a larger skill difference.
Naked with Koga tekko, then +30 skill from gears (head, neck, boots, earrings)