Torcleaver Question! D:

Quick maths question that im unsure off, as I just got torcleaver today.

Bale Hands +2:
DEF: 31 Accuracy +10 Attack +10
Great Sword Skill +5 Haste +5%
Enhances "Absorb-TP" effect
Set: Attack occasionally varies with HP

Versa Mufflers:
DEF: 25 MND -5 Attack +6
Physical damage taken -1%
Enmity +4
VIT+4 ~ Augment

Obviously Torcleaver is Vit based, but a small amount of vit, will it outweigh the 10 attack and 5 GS skill??

If I recall correctly, the properly augmented versa mufflers beat Bale hands inside Abyssea due to Attack being already over the roof.

You could guess checking bale outside Aby on new content mobs, but eh..

I think someone did this before. if you had the max augments from the versa mufflers. I think they beat the bale+2 hands

Versa is the best inside Abyssea WS hands, outside stick to Heafoc Mitts.

I believe 5 VIT being the best possible augment, but good luck ive been trying to get those for months.

The best possible hands for Torcleaver at this time are;

Adaman/Armada Mufflers augmented with VIT via Synergy.

if I were to rank hands WS pieces in order, they would be;

Armada/Adaman Mufflers > Versa Mufflers (Vit5 augment) > Ares' Gauntlets > Bale Gauntlets +2.

Attack > Accuracy for Torcleaver since you would need to hit at least 850 Attack iirc to break HNM pDIF.

I currently have VIT+4, Haste+4, and Magic Atk. Bonus +2 augments on my Armada Mufflers. I tried a few times (About 2M worth of tatters, at least 50 synths.) to see if I'd be able to get VIT+5 on them like I saw for my other stats but it never showed. Making me conclude that 4 VIT is the highest you can augment for the mufflers.

Is this what you guys are looking for? Been trying to get Haste+4, but I have had no luck in some 40 tries. Can we trade?

Oh wow I didnt know those could go up to 5 as well thats awesome thanks for the screen shot o.o'.

I'm fairly sure it can actually go higher than +5, but you're relying on random pool augments to hit values higher than +4 on that particular piece. Getting VIT out of the random pool will be rare to begin with, and then getting a high augment is rarer still (higher values are progressively less common). Would have a hell of a time trying to get anything above +5 assuming it's actually possible.

Random pool Stats go up to 6.

Yes, Thank you for the screenshot and damn you at the same time because now I have to purchase more tatters to improve my current Armada Augments! :'(

Am I the only one not bothering with these ridiculous prices on augments/-1 cursed pieces until level 95/99 comes around? You know they're just going to further refine the system or come out with something better. Just like the original crystal-type augmented weapons that briefly had their reign as being so great....

...then Abyssea turned the world on its head.

I try to keep myself reasonably well-geared and ahead of the curve, but I don't have the time and money to throw around like that.

There's really not much else to do right now if you've been keeping more or less up to date with new gear, unless you're trying to fully gear 10+ jobs for some reason. The only major timesinks introduced last update were Voidwatch and Synergy augments. Besides, the more popular augments are a more significant improvement in their slot than the etched stuff ever was (can't remember any of the weapons having any real use off the top of my head and the ebon/furia/ebur gear was 99% meh).

I'm feeling bad, I sold to npc a pair of those with Vit +5 and shield skill.

I will send you positive energy =(

Guilty. <_<;

I gave up on Versa, actually my LS was farming Tunga the other night and got a pair and even Screenshoted since I skipped out and decided to work on my Ochain instead <.<

Augmented Armada are the best hands now though, can get 6 VIT on them~