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By Asura.Vyre 2011-05-22 20:31:23
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Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said:
If it's like that, then why does Google serve ads like this one for Caesary?
Trust me, we'd like to know too.
I believe it has something to do with Google filtering ads on a case by case basis with them going mainly by who is paying for the advertising slot, rather than by what is being advertised. Usually Google allows something as long as it meets the AdWords conditions for advertising or whatever.
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By zahrah 2011-05-22 20:31:36
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Bismarck.Dracondria said:
Europe is nice. I really enjoyed Germany/Austria/France/Italy. Paris was cool, especially going up the Eiffel Tower and watching a thunderstorm light up the sky with purple streaks near the beach in Italy was pretty cool too. Not to mention Venice.

OMG! Did you ever go to the "Sac Le Cur" (SP?) area of Paris? Gorgeous!!!

I love, love, love Germany, Austria and Italy, but I wish I could have spent more time in Rome.

Any fun adventures overseas, Jaerik and Aly?
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2011-05-22 20:33:53
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zahrah said:
Bismarck.Dracondria said:
Europe is nice. I really enjoyed Germany/Austria/France/Italy. Paris was cool, especially going up the Eiffel Tower and watching a thunderstorm light up the sky with purple streaks near the beach in Italy was pretty cool too. Not to mention Venice.
Bismarck.Dracondria said:
Europe is nice. I really enjoyed Germany/Austria/France/Italy. Paris was cool, especially going up the Eiffel Tower and watching a thunderstorm light up the sky with purple streaks near the beach in Italy was pretty cool too. Not to mention Venice.

OMG! Did you ever go to the "Sac Le Cur" (SP?) area of Paris? Gorgeous!!!

I love, love, love Germany, Austria and Italy, but I wish I could have spent more time in Rome.

Any fun adventures overseas, Jaerik and Aly?

No but we went to the Arc de Triomphe o: I don't really remember all of it, was quite a few years ago. I mostly remember my trip to Australia since it was a whole damn month in that hell-hole >_>
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By Ramuh.Svedin 2011-05-22 20:34:06
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Bismarck.Dracondria said:
Ramuh.Svedin said:
Bismarck.Dracondria said:
Ramuh.Svedin said:
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No way I'm going up north, might be "rednecks" who eat people there.

you're a chicken!

Har ett sommarställe uppe i jämtland, det räcker för mig >.>

Fegis! Jag kan nästan lova att ingen äter dig här uppe.
Du måste våga ta chanser här i livet!

Stockholm är bättre ändå >_> Ni pratar konstigt
Jag respekterar din åsikt, men du har fel!
bättre så, fjollträskare är inte välkommna här ;)
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2011-05-22 20:34:36
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Ramuh.Svedin said:
Bismarck.Dracondria said:
Ramuh.Svedin said:
Bismarck.Dracondria said:
Ramuh.Svedin said:
Bismarck.Dracondria said:
No way I'm going up north, might be "rednecks" who eat people there.

you're a chicken!

Har ett sommarställe uppe i jämtland, det räcker för mig >.>

Fegis! Jag kan nästan lova att ingen äter dig här uppe.
Du måste våga ta chanser här i livet!

Stockholm är bättre ändå >_> Ni pratar konstigt
Jag respekterar din åsikt, men du har fel!
bättre så, fjollträskare är inte välkommna här ;)

Var bor du?
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By Ramuh.Urial 2011-05-22 20:35:10
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All this travel talk makes me want to go back to Sweden I had a blast there last year.

Mods/admins if you could up and go anywhere in the world...where would you go?
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By Bahamut.Serj 2011-05-22 20:39:46
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Ragnarok.Anye said:
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
Ragnarok.Doorsmasher said:
Gilgamesh.Alyria said:
Ragnarok.Doorsmasher said:
I got a question? If for some reason, a mod and a poster disagree with each other, a moderator does have to remain impartial to personal opinions, if there is heated debates on specific topics that the mod might feel "attached" to?


Technically we are supposed to stay out of debates but sometimes we might get in a discussion but we won't cross the lines and take it personal to go off and maybe topicban cause we didn't like their response.


I understand that, and it sound normal, I just meant that how would anyone know a mod, might be frusterated with Rl stuff, and then get on the Computer, with a Hot-headed trigger finger like impression, and go on a ban spree...

I've never seen it happen.

And I'm pretty sure the mod who did it would be banned/demoted Lickety-split.

I'm with Flion on this. The mods have guidelines they themselves must follow and I'd imagine if one of them stepped out of line Jaerik or Scragg would intervene.
Personally, if I were to receive some sort of serious reprimand for my actions from either of them, I would feel extremely shamed. I respect them way, way too much.

Anye told me in a PM to watch my language on forums after a certain post. I've edited out any swears in all my posts since then. True story.
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By Ramuh.Urial 2011-05-22 20:41:16
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Bahamut.Serj said:
Ragnarok.Anye said:
Ramuh.Urial said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Ragnarok.Doorsmasher said:
Gilgamesh.Alyria said:
Ragnarok.Doorsmasher said:
I got a question? If for some reason, a mod and a poster disagree with each other, a moderator does have to remain impartial to personal opinions, if there is heated debates on specific topics that the mod might feel "attached" to?


Technically we are supposed to stay out of debates but sometimes we might get in a discussion but we won't cross the lines and take it personal to go off and maybe topicban cause we didn't like their response.


I understand that, and it sound normal, I just meant that how would anyone know a mod, might be frusterated with Rl stuff, and then get on the Computer, with a Hot-headed trigger finger like impression, and go on a ban spree...

I've never seen it happen.

And I'm pretty sure the mod who did it would be banned/demoted Lickety-split.

I'm with Flion on this. The mods have guidelines they themselves must follow and I'd imagine if one of them stepped out of line Jaerik or Scragg would intervene.
Personally, if I were to receive some sort of serious reprimand for my actions from either of them, I would feel extremely shamed. I respect them way, way too much.

Anye told me in a PM to watch my language on forums after a certain post. I've edited out any swears in all my posts since then. True story.

OMG it's Serj. I keep trying to see you when I rarely log on...But all I see is a red disk and then you disappear :3
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By Ragnarok.Anye 2011-05-22 20:44:46
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Ramuh.Urial said:
All this travel talk makes me want to go back to Sweden I had a blast there last year.

Mods/admins if you could up and go anywhere in the world...where would you go?
tbh, I'd like to visit a lot of my old lsmates and friends I've made over the years on FFXI. :)
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By Ramuh.Urial 2011-05-22 20:45:28
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Ragnarok.Anye said:
Ramuh.Urial said:
All this travel talk makes me want to go back to Sweden I had a blast there last year.

Mods/admins if you could up and go anywhere in the world...where would you go?
tbh, I'd like to visit a lot of my old lsmates and friends I've made over the years on FFXI. :)

That's why I originally went to Sweden. It was crazy. Go out drinking....come back for events XD
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By Ragnarok.Anye 2011-05-22 20:47:17
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Bahamut.Serj said:
Anye told me in a PM to watch my language on forums after a certain post. I've edited out any swears in all my posts since then. True story.
I actually don't remember this.... o_o
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By Gilgamesh.Alyria 2011-05-22 20:47:38
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Ramuh.Urial said:
All this travel talk makes me want to go back to Sweden I had a blast there last year.

Mods/admins if you could up and go anywhere in the world...where would you go?


China, Italy, greece, i wouldnt care really.

zahrah said:
Bismarck.Dracondria said:
Europe is nice. I really enjoyed Germany/Austria/France/Italy. Paris was cool, especially going up the Eiffel Tower and watching a thunderstorm light up the sky with purple streaks near the beach in Italy was pretty cool too. Not to mention Venice.

OMG! Did you ever go to the "Sac Le Cur" (SP?) area of Paris? Gorgeous!!!

I love, love, love Germany, Austria and Italy, but I wish I could have spent more time in Rome.

Any fun adventures overseas, Jaerik and Aly?

I have only been to the dominican republic for 14 days :) was fun, I'd go again.
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By Bahamut.Serj 2011-05-22 20:49:15
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OMG it's Serj. I keep trying to see you when I rarely log on...But all I see is a red disk and then you disappear :3

Yea, my internet has issues with this game =( Been really busy ingame and irl too =P Farming Kannagi and Masamune atm (I shouldn't be posting here, but w/e XD)
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By Asura.Vyre 2011-05-22 20:49:30
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Greece is an awesome place to visit, especially Delphi.
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By Bismarck.Elanabelle 2011-05-22 20:49:31
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Questions for the moderators:

1. Why not continue to play FFXI?

2. If there was one thing you wished all forums users would do more of, what would it be? Let's get beyond the obvious answers ("everyone play nice", "everyone always be respectful of all others", etc.), if possible.

3. This is a more abstract question, but I think it's relevant to forums "behavior". Do you each feel that the "new forums rules" have had a positive effect on the community? If so, in what ways have you observed improvements? If not, what have you observed to be worse now? And either way, what more would you do (if you had your way) to improve the website even further, going forward?
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By Ramuh.Urial 2011-05-22 20:50:11
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Bahamut.Serj said:
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OMG it's Serj. I keep trying to see you when I rarely log on...But all I see is a red disk and then you disappear :3

Yea, my internet has issues with this game =( Been really busy ingame and irl too =P Farming Kannagi and Masamune atm (I shouldn't be posting here, but w/e XD)
Farm me Almace and Ochain? :3
lol ok I'm done dreaming. I'd have to get off my butt and actually try to level a job...lol thats funny.
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By Bahamut.Serj 2011-05-22 20:50:44
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Ragnarok.Anye said:
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Anye told me in a PM to watch my language on forums after a certain post. I've edited out any swears in all my posts since then. True story.
I actually don't remember this.... o_o

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Ragnarok.Anye
2011-05-01 23:33:02
Trying to reduce profanity on our site--Your flavored post in the Osama death isn't helping. :(

-Anye

Serj
2011-05-02 00:28:09
Sorry, got a little worked up =(

Will work on toning down myself more. Be it not commenting or using more appropriate words. =S

Ragnarok.Anye
2011-05-02 01:26:16
Much appreciated. :)

Serj
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Yea, again, sorry for that =|

Ragnarok.Anye
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No problem--just try to keep it clean. :) Even I'm going to have to work on myself. XD

Nothing really in there, so I don't think you'd mind me quoting it xD
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By Ragnarok.Anye 2011-05-22 20:51:22
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Ragnarok.Anye said:
Bahamut.Serj said:
Anye told me in a PM to watch my language on forums after a certain post. I've edited out any swears in all my posts since then. True story.
I actually don't remember this.... o_o
WAIT, SORRY SERJ, I TOTALLY DO. <_> Bwah. Had to check my inbox, though....

-edit- EFF my internet is slow. :/ But yeah! I remember, and I don't mind about the PM. XD
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2011-05-22 20:51:38
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This one to Scragg 'n' Jaerik if they're still here.

I just finished my first year as a computer science major and I'm really starting to get into programming. For now, all I've used is Java. I made a final project that was all command line and ran a simulation based on information received from a text file.

I want to take a jump ahead and now either make a GUI and make it work with a MySQL database! :D

But I know how to do neither!

Which do you feel I should learn first based on how important they are? I can't decide which is more important; usability or functionality.
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2011-05-22 20:52:14
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1) I was getting busy with RL, and Abyssea killed things for me from the second one on. I don't have a desire to play anymore. I miss the oldschool FFXI.

2) Read the rules before posting.

3) I think it has had a positive effect, and I think we're on the right track.
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Gilgamesh.Alyria said:
Ramuh.Urial said:
All this travel talk makes me want to go back to Sweden I had a blast there last year.

Mods/admins if you could up and go anywhere in the world...where would you go?


China, Italy, greece, i wouldnt care really.

zahrah said:
Bismarck.Dracondria said:
Europe is nice. I really enjoyed Germany/Austria/France/Italy. Paris was cool, especially going up the Eiffel Tower and watching a thunderstorm light up the sky with purple streaks near the beach in Italy was pretty cool too. Not to mention Venice.

OMG! Did you ever go to the "Sac Le Cur" (SP?) area of Paris? Gorgeous!!!

I love, love, love Germany, Austria and Italy, but I wish I could have spent more time in Rome.

Any fun adventures overseas, Jaerik and Aly?

I have only been to the dominican republic for 14 days :) was fun, I'd go again.

I've heard that DR was gorgeous! What were you doing there? I only know people who have traveled there for relief and/or missionary work after Haiti's earthquake.
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By Ragnarok.Anye 2011-05-22 21:03:42
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Bismarck.Elanabelle said:
Questions for the moderators:

1. Why not continue to play FFXI?
I still do! I miss my fraaands ; ;!

Bismarck.Elanabelle said:
2. If there was one thing you wished all forums users would do more of, what would it be? Let's get beyond the obvious answers ("everyone play nice", "everyone always be respectful of all others", etc.), if possible.
(breaking your rules, here--sorry) I know it's asking for the impossible, but actually consider that there's an actual person behind each post--yes, they're just words on a screen; yes, they have different opinions, but in the end we ALL could do with a little more respect and even a bit of sympathy, and consider how our words and actions affect others.

Oops, left my carebear/Drphil on. <_<

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3. This is a more abstract question, but I think it's relevant to forums "behavior". Do you each feel that the "new forums rules" have had a positive effect on the community? If so, in what ways have you observed improvements? If not, what have you observed to be worse now? And either way, what more would you do (if you had your way) to improve the website even further, going forward?
I think... well, I don't think anything's changed, really. It really oughtn't change how people express themselves except superficially, such as jokes and pictures. The whole intention was to meet the conditions of our ad sponsors, so it was just a matter of making new rules and enforcing them--sounds more simple than than what it turned out to be, but that's essentially what it was. I think it was the right move holistically, though I'm sorry for any inconvenience it might have caused. I was really pleased with how compliant people were, for the most part. :)
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By Bahamut.Serj 2011-05-22 21:12:57
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Oh, China is awesome btw. Spent a month there in nonpopular places and it was amazing (I RODE A CAMEL!).
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By Gilgamesh.Alyria 2011-05-22 21:19:36
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zahrah said:
Gilgamesh.Alyria said:
Ramuh.Urial said:
All this travel talk makes me want to go back to Sweden I had a blast there last year.

Mods/admins if you could up and go anywhere in the world...where would you go?


China, Italy, greece, i wouldnt care really.

zahrah said:
Bismarck.Dracondria said:
Europe is nice. I really enjoyed Germany/Austria/France/Italy. Paris was cool, especially going up the Eiffel Tower and watching a thunderstorm light up the sky with purple streaks near the beach in Italy was pretty cool too. Not to mention Venice.

OMG! Did you ever go to the "Sac Le Cur" (SP?) area of Paris? Gorgeous!!!

I love, love, love Germany, Austria and Italy, but I wish I could have spent more time in Rome.

Any fun adventures overseas, Jaerik and Aly?

I have only been to the dominican republic for 14 days :) was fun, I'd go again.

I've heard that DR was gorgeous! What were you doing there? I only know people who have traveled there for relief and/or missionary work after Haiti's earthquake.


Went there for vacation. Only thing that sucked was in the places outside of the main city, if the electricity went out, that meant the hot water went out and you can be a few days without hot water. So taking a shower in ice cold water was horrible. But yes everything there is pretty, there's a party every night, even a club on a boat in the main part of the city. definitely fun to go though.
 
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Bismarck.Elanabelle said:
Questions for the moderators:

1. Why not continue to play FFXI?

I quit ffxi, was too far behind on that and lost my interest in it.

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2. If there was one thing you wished all forums users would do more of, what would it be? Let's get beyond the obvious answers ("everyone play nice", "everyone always be respectful of all others", etc.), if possible.

Common sense.

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3. This is a more abstract question, but I think it's relevant to forums "behavior". Do you each feel that the "new forums rules" have had a positive effect on the community? If so, in what ways have you observed improvements? If not, what have you observed to be worse now? And either way, what more would you do (if you had your way) to improve the website even further, going forward?

Honestly I think it improved, before it was guidelines and not "rules". When I tried to at least guide ppl to stop cussing so much, stop posting graphic material, etc. they would'nt listen... And now that the rules are set, now they have to listen or GTFO.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-05-22 22:38:13
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Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
Cerberus.Jiko said:
More for Scragg or Jaerik, but can it be possible to add missing crafting recipes (via member submission, or admin) to items that dont currently have them?

One I can think of off hand would be an Argent coat, and im sure theres plenty of more out there. It would be a big help for us crafters! ^^
We try not to apply a sort of "truth by wiki" format to our site. We let places like ffxyclopedia (either version) specialize in that.

Our site philosophy is precisely the opposite. Mainly, "untouched by human hands." If we can automatically collect / parse / scrape it, we put it up there. If a user (or even an admin) has to apply judgment to what should be empirical data, then we've failed.

If a recipe is wrong, well... I'm pretty sure admins or mods can correct it when reported. But it requires a manual verification process from our end.
I've read through the 9 pages of posts and really this is the only thing that connected to me. I've always wondered why FFXIAH didn't take this opportunity more seriously. I do agree it would take away some of the spotlight away from GE/Wikia/BG or w/e, but this site is all about prices in my opinion. Take away the wonderful forums and you have an auction house site. In my opinion that is what this site is all about. I believe that this helps us with our purchaces and finding out how much something is worth before we sell it/bazaar it. I love the fact that you all created a wanted/bazaar section which I find to be great just probably not used as well by the public as it should of been.

It's just, that's all great, but when I look at equipment, or something I want to buy or make, I want to know how much exactly is it going to cost to make. Would it be better to buy in bulk than just a single one. Would I loose too much gil buying off the AH than going to an NPC. These are all the questions that go through my mind when I want to make something. But when there is an item without a recipe on this site I feel that I am having to go out of my way to do the work to find the price of the item. When you have a recipe list the ingredients and you know what its going to cost on your server, it is a huge time saver. It does take traffic away from GE/Wikia/bg but those sites cant provide the current prices on your server either. Your going to just come back to this one anyways to find the item after you find the recipe for it and search for all the ingredients.

I understand it takes someone to manually input each recipe and maybe a new moderator could do that. I don't see the reason why we should have to spend 5 more minutes per recipe to find the prices and calculate it ourselves when the item page could potentially do that for us, instantly.

Pros:
It saves the users time, and a more knowledgeable understanding of what they are putting their gil into.

Cons:
It takes traffic away from partner sites.

Partner sites can't provide the current price of the item your looking for on your server. The only place for that is here, that is why people come to this site when they are looking for item prices. The only other element that is missing is NPC prices which fair enough can still be listed on partner sites. I personally think it would benefit people here greatly saving players gil. I can't tell you how many times I've seen people waste their gil on echo drops buying off the AH instead of NPC, when the NPC's are in the same locations as the AH (yes I know that echo drops pages has npc prices, its just an example). Thousands of transactions of overprices common items with so much gil being wasted. True, its their own dumb fault for doing so, but that is besides the point. You might say, "Well that page has NPC prices and people already buy it overpriced. It obviously isn't helping!", well, I highly doubt that only 12 stacks of echo drops are used a day in an entire server. Think about the number that would be if it wasn't displayed, it probably would be double, or triple that amount. My point is, it educated people enough that they stopped going to the AH for echo drops and started buying off the NPC for the lowest price possible ultimately saving their gil. Multiply that by how many people do that instead of the AH and you just helped save millions of gil a week just off of echo drops (maybe not so much now since, in my opinion, I haven't been silenced as much as I use to be a few years ago which seems strange).

I think that this site should be dedicated for the use of the public to make educated decisions about their gil, and when the item pages do not list a recipe I feel that takes away from the experience. It makes the users do unnecessary research and when they, for example, are looking for an item to craft at their level (that isn't listed in recipes) and having to look up multiple items to make a decision of what they want to do, their biggest advantage is time. The more time they can save making their decision the quicker and easier it will be for them. If you have to look at 5 items and all 5 items don't list the recipes, you'll have to look up 25+ more items and organize the information yourself to make a smart decision. Most new recipes are not included in this and that is why I bring it up. "But its only 5 minutes, I'm sure you could spare that looking up a recipe." Five minutes for 1 user isn't that much, but when a few hundred people stop by for research that 5 minutes turns into a few hundred minutes.

My point is, I think that FFXIAH shouldn't worry about taking away the spotlight of partner sites, because people come back here anyways to search for 5 or more items anyways to find the prices of those. If all they are doing is going to that site to find a recipe and come back for the prices what is the point? I think there is no valid argument why this site shouldn't take advantage of this. I've always wondered why this site didn't keep up with synergy either almost like your treating it like its not a craft. It uses items just like crafting does, and the process is pretty much the same. Just uses a different system to create the item but the process is the same in the end, you get an item or you HQ it. I understand that the admin/mods no longer play FFXI and the motivation to do this probably is nonexistent. That doesn't mean people here wouldn't volunteer to contribute filling in missing recipes and creating a synergy one.
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 Ragnarok.Anye
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By Ragnarok.Anye 2011-05-22 23:03:52
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Wauw. Well I'm up for the challenge since I'm kinda bored this summer, and I've got a knack for boring, OCD-worthy tasks.

(Feeling like I might regret this, though! :o)

AND I STILL PLAY FFXI, DAMMIT! XD
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By Ramuh.Urial 2011-05-22 23:16:57
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Question for Anye.
Will you do this weeks MS Paint!?!?!?
It's Portal!
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By Fairy.Spence 2011-05-22 23:18:27
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Anye,
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