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 Pandemonium.Scrumpet
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By Pandemonium.Scrumpet 2011-05-19 14:57:11
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Bismarck.Guttler said:
Own a Guttler and 2 other 90 BSTs. I don't do anything half assed.

You have your own BST brigade! D:

How's the Emphy Axe for BST? @@;
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By Remora.Dodu 2011-05-19 14:58:09
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Bismarck.Khiinroye said:
Which is what people wanted: No more gimp bandwagon bsts tossing an invincible pet at stuff and afking for an hour. Nobody had anything against good bsts who got stuff done fast.

While I'm aware its probably not what this particular audience wants to hear, going to farm much of anything that isn't nearly guaranteed to drop is an excessive waste without being able to stagger reliably. You're still killing it sigifnicantly slower than a properly equipped <insert job with a crit. WS here> and WHM, and likely not getting anything to show for it. It will always be a better use of yours and everyone else's time to just find three retards in Port Jeuno to make things faster.
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By Valefor.Zolan 2011-05-19 14:59:38
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Can confirm our PDT matches Summoner now @ 87.5%.

Tested on Cuijatender ??? needles with Koushiro's Garuda with DT Atmas on both got hit for exactly the same damage 1914.
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By Remora.Dodu 2011-05-19 15:01:04
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Siren.Leastat said:
Honestly i think this Update has helped Bst. Tbh it allows bst to use an extra DD atma to speed up there kills. And will allow Bst to show Solo Ninja's how things are done right. if a bst didn't bring pet food with them already then they weren't a bst but a tool using a glitch. and with the pets now taking small amounts of dmg it will allow them to Tp faster so over all this was a Great help to Bst. i'm not a bst main so all you tear droppers can now watch bst do it faster longer and better. i just can't wait for the Update next where the Ninja's get auto booted from abyssea for soloing Briarus and ***. lmao good time back to playing

There's a reason people solo things on ninja to be moderately productive: they're capable of reliably collecting triggers, and its relatively quick(terrible players notwithstanding).
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By Siren.Leastat 2011-05-19 15:02:28
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wtf is the diffrence from a bst solo which has been always soloing and a ninja.... NOTHING GET OVER YOURSELF
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By Caitsith.Heimdall 2011-05-19 15:02:49
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soo abou tthose macros?..
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By Glamdring 2011-05-19 15:03:41
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for god's sake do not throw on another Dd atma and kill faster, that's what the haters want! use either a regen or an evasion Atma, so it takes just as long if not longer! NEVER bow to those jag's demands!
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-05-19 15:04:28
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Caitsith.Heimdall said:
soo abou tthose macros?..

You should set up your macros in a way you prefer, and a way you'r used to(assuming it's not totally HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE).
Allways the best way to setup macros xD
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By Leviathan.Alkalinejoe 2011-05-19 15:07:18
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Siren.Leastat said:
wtf is the diffrence from a bst solo which has been always soloing and a ninja.... NOTHING GET OVER YOURSELF
Butthurt bst I see. Apart from the tons of red procs NIN gets, the only difference NIN is more productive.
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By Sleepyzero 2011-05-19 15:08:39
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Remora.Dodu said:
Bismarck.Khiinroye said:
Which is what people wanted: No more gimp bandwagon bsts tossing an invincible pet at stuff and afking for an hour. Nobody had anything against good bsts who got stuff done fast.

While I'm aware its probably not what this particular audience wants to hear, going to farm much of anything that isn't nearly guaranteed to drop is an excessive waste without being able to stagger reliably. You're still killing it sigifnicantly slower than a properly equipped <insert job with a crit. WS here> and WHM, and likely not getting anything to show for it. It will always be a better use of yours and everyone else's time to just find three retards in Port Jeuno to make things faster.

But I love wasting my time killing stuff solo on bst ^.~
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By Valefor.Zolan 2011-05-19 15:09:03
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Leviathan.Alkalinejoe said:
NIN is more productive.

You do realize this is a video game and it is all a giant waste of time right?
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By Lakshmi.Emanuelle 2011-05-19 15:13:17
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the cap is 80% pdt, i just poped a emperador de altepa, 1k needles 125 dmg with 100 pdt, same dmg with 83 pdt, 80% pdt 125 as well, lower than 80 dmg changed
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By Lakshmi.Emanuelle 2011-05-19 15:17:30
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im using mounted champion atma (for regen) rr and ducal guard, pet are still literally immune with regen atma on
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By Leviathan.Gotterdammerung 2011-05-19 15:17:43
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Video Games started going down hill once we began to cater to the ADD mentality. Faster is not better. You can burn through this game in a week if you want too. Get everything you could ever need. Get extremely bored and quit. I won't stop you. Meanwhile, i get to actually enjoy the game. I will make memories with friends while you build a relationship with your Dualbot(s).
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-05-19 15:18:22
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What about the people that have to wait for you to take 1hr to finish soloing something so they can enjoy their time?
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By Leviathan.Gotterdammerung 2011-05-19 15:20:51
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also if 1k needles did 125 dmg thats 87.5% reduction.

125 is 1/8th of 1k or 12.5%

100%- 12.5% = 87.5%
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By Lakshmi.Emanuelle 2011-05-19 15:22:36
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Leviathan.Gotterdammerung said:
also if 1k needles did 125 dmg thats 87.5% reduction.

125 is 1/8th of 1k or 12.5%

100%- 12.5% = 87.5%
thanks my math sucks
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By Leviathan.Alkalinejoe 2011-05-19 15:23:35
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Valefor.Zolan said:
Leviathan.Alkalinejoe said:
NIN is more productive.

You do realize this is a video game and it is all a giant waste of time right?
You do realize you can still be productive in things you invest your time in?
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By Caitsith.Heimdall 2011-05-19 15:23:41
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Leviathan.Gotterdammerung said:
also if 1k needles did 125 dmg thats 87.5% reduction.

125 is 1/8th of 1k or 12.5%

100%- 12.5% = 87.5%

damn u and your new age math! :p
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By Bismarck.Guttler 2011-05-19 15:23:51
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I never really trusted the damage from needles anyway, I never got the numbers to match up to what the %s said it should be.

Pretty sure it's the 87.5% that SMN have though, and not 80%, I had changes in dmg taken when I fiddled with gear between 80% and 90%.
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By Caitsith.Heimdall 2011-05-19 15:25:46
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did anyone test to see if they fiddled with how the pdt from atmas stack and same for gear?
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By Gilgamesh.Hunewearl 2011-05-19 15:26:17
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Leviathan.Draylo said:
What about the people that have to wait for you to take 1hr to finish soloing something so they can enjoy their time?
They go do something else, not like the game only offer 1 option at a time. They can also learn to scout an area before starting or just complain like you think it should be.

Waiting 1h for people to kill is so unbearable? You guys never saw a 12h Tiamat or what?
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By Leviathan.Gotterdammerung 2011-05-19 15:27:17
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Leviathan.Draylo said:
What about the people that have to wait for you to take 1hr to finish soloing something so they can enjoy their time?


#1 it never took me an hour to solo anything.

#2 On many of those people i waited just as long or longer when they managed to get claim. They might of thought meh its my right because we go faster, but it was my group versus their group. Their group needed 6 fights and i needed 1. In the end they took longer to finish up and ended up wasting just as much of my time. Wich i dont mind... mainly because im not a *** but also because i look at it as being my fault for not claiming fast enough. Personally when i hear a group of 6-18 people complain to me wuth the whole "OUR NM!" "omg u gun take forever less us go firs" (even tho i wont take forever and ur dumb) i just laugh at them and say "u seriously had X people vs little ole me, and your upset because i didnt let you claim it? Why dont you try harder next time kay."
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By Valefor.Zolan 2011-05-19 15:29:34
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Summoner is 87.5% (fact)
Sheep and Garuda took the EXACT same damage (fact)
Therefor..... Bst has 87.5% pdt
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By Valefor.Koushiro 2011-05-19 15:34:26
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Lakshmi.Emanuelle said:
Leviathan.Gotterdammerung said:
also if 1k needles did 125 dmg thats 87.5% reduction.

125 is 1/8th of 1k or 12.5%

100%- 12.5% = 87.5%
thanks my math sucks

Probably are just forgetting to add the Stout Servant bonuses
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By Bahamut.Serj 2011-05-19 15:36:05
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Lol, the rage is humorous. CG to bsts. SE gave you a break. The horrible bsts will wipe now, and the good bsts will still be good ^^
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By Fenrir.Unaisis 2011-05-19 15:37:15
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thats more than enough for most nms imo~
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By Lakshmi.Emanuelle 2011-05-19 15:38:20
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Valefor.Koushiro said:
Lakshmi.Emanuelle said:
Leviathan.Gotterdammerung said:
also if 1k needles did 125 dmg thats 87.5% reduction.

125 is 1/8th of 1k or 12.5%

100%- 12.5% = 87.5%
thanks my math sucks

Probably are just forgetting to add the Stout Servant bonuses

yes i forgot lol
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By Remora.Dodu 2011-05-19 16:19:26
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Beyond those actually testing the new cap empirically(which is appreciated), the maturity level in this thread is upsetting.
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By blowfin 2011-05-19 16:23:08
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What about the people that have to wait for you to take 1hr to finish soloing something so they can enjoy their time?

You have a choice to not wait. Not like anyone is forcing you to stand around like a slack jawed yokel. 1hr is pretty LOL too, you're listening too much to Ilax on the official forums.
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