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Job Adjustments (4/21/11)
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2011-04-22 08:27:03
Quetzalcoatl.Volkom said: Odin.Zicdeh said: Sylph.Agentblade said: Time to break out the drk zerg all over again !!! The question is should i keep my B.Zaghnal or work on multihit scythe. I was a M.Kris zerg drk before abby, now with the updates, 5/5 desperate blows, and the hp/haste build, DoT might be better with scythe rather then M.Kris or Ridill. *Breaks out the "Your Soul is Mine" macros*
Wat.
If anything Last Resort increased duration makes Things like Bahamut'z Zaghnal and zerg weapons entirely useless. Get an ODD (Redemption or Caladbolg) CALADBOLG 300% TP -> EPIC TORCLEAVER WITH 90SECONDS OF AFTERMATH EFFECT WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Or, OR!, 25% Delay reduction means more Torcleavers which means more Aftermath regardless of TP!
Serj said: Seems that I picked a good time to level up drk (got it to 84 yesterday). Inb4 bandwagon drks.
There's a difference between a bandwagoneer and someone who's taking advantage of a situation.
Generally, if you're a DRK and in full Perle, you're a bandwagoneer though.
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By Serj 2011-04-22 08:29:43
Hey, I'm in full perle because I can't use my useful bale gear yet or ace's feet. >_>
This makes me excited as hell though. I've always been a huge fan of drk.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-04-22 08:30:08
I was planning to pimp up my DRK next just for the hell of it, so this is really nice :P
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By Quetzalcoatl.Volkom 2011-04-22 08:30:59
3 people in my ls said they're going to start leveling drk tonight.....wtf
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By Quetzalcoatl.Volkom 2011-04-22 08:32:04
Odin.Zicdeh said: Quetzalcoatl.Volkom said: Odin.Zicdeh said: Sylph.Agentblade said: Time to break out the drk zerg all over again !!! The question is should i keep my B.Zaghnal or work on multihit scythe. I was a M.Kris zerg drk before abby, now with the updates, 5/5 desperate blows, and the hp/haste build, DoT might be better with scythe rather then M.Kris or Ridill. *Breaks out the "Your Soul is Mine" macros*
Wat.
If anything Last Resort increased duration makes Things like Bahamut'z Zaghnal and zerg weapons entirely useless. Get an ODD (Redemption or Caladbolg) CALADBOLG 300% TP -> EPIC TORCLEAVER WITH 90SECONDS OF AFTERMATH EFFECT WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Or, OR!, 25% Delay reduction means more Torcleavers which means more Aftermath regardless of TP!
put swordstrap on that?
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2011-04-22 08:37:53
Quetzalcoatl.Volkom said: Odin.Zicdeh said: Quetzalcoatl.Volkom said: Odin.Zicdeh said: Sylph.Agentblade said: Time to break out the drk zerg all over again !!! The question is should i keep my B.Zaghnal or work on multihit scythe. I was a M.Kris zerg drk before abby, now with the updates, 5/5 desperate blows, and the hp/haste build, DoT might be better with scythe rather then M.Kris or Ridill. *Breaks out the "Your Soul is Mine" macros*
Wat.
If anything Last Resort increased duration makes Things like Bahamut'z Zaghnal and zerg weapons entirely useless. Get an ODD (Redemption or Caladbolg) CALADBOLG 300% TP -> EPIC TORCLEAVER WITH 90SECONDS OF AFTERMATH EFFECT WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Or, OR!, 25% Delay reduction means more Torcleavers which means more Aftermath regardless of TP!
put swordstrap on that?
I hope you're joking.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Volkom 2011-04-22 08:39:22
Odin.Zicdeh said: Quetzalcoatl.Volkom said: Odin.Zicdeh said: Quetzalcoatl.Volkom said: Odin.Zicdeh said: Sylph.Agentblade said: Time to break out the drk zerg all over again !!! The question is should i keep my B.Zaghnal or work on multihit scythe. I was a M.Kris zerg drk before abby, now with the updates, 5/5 desperate blows, and the hp/haste build, DoT might be better with scythe rather then M.Kris or Ridill. *Breaks out the "Your Soul is Mine" macros*
Wat.
If anything Last Resort increased duration makes Things like Bahamut'z Zaghnal and zerg weapons entirely useless. Get an ODD (Redemption or Caladbolg) CALADBOLG 300% TP -> EPIC TORCLEAVER WITH 90SECONDS OF AFTERMATH EFFECT WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Or, OR!, 25% Delay reduction means more Torcleavers which means more Aftermath regardless of TP!
put swordstrap on that?
I hope you're joking. lol i am. drinking coffee orange juice and a left over milkshake while getting ready for class
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By Sylph.Agentblade 2011-04-22 08:40:10
Drk was my first job to 75, will be my last to 90. Glad I kept all my seals for af3. Guess ill have to sport homam for the time being.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-04-22 08:41:14
I'm allready seeing more DRKs in PJ.
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By Bismarck.Maxse 2011-04-22 08:41:28
SO DRK gets 25% JA haste every 4 mins 10 seconds for 3 mins? O.o
MMM if thats the case leveling Dark next.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2011-04-22 08:42:18
Serj said: Hey, I'm in full perle because I can't use my useful bale gear yet or ace's feet. >_>
This makes me excited as hell though. I've always been a huge fan of drk.
Hence I used the qualifier "Generally".
I think it'll be real easy to spot bandwagon DRK's, especially on ***like Apademak.
"You gonna actually stun those self-cast thunder spells?"
"What lvl does drk get stun?"
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By Bismarck.Altar 2011-04-22 08:42:33
Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Bismarck.Altar said: Cerberus.Savannah said:
•VIT will play a role in calculating damage taken from critical hits.
Pld Vit build like its 2006!! Yeaaaaaaaaah!
/sarcasm More like nerf to crit ws on higher tier NMs
Ya, I didn't think about it from the mob's perspective. sigh.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Volkom 2011-04-22 08:43:39
Odin.Zicdeh said: Serj said: Hey, I'm in full perle because I can't use my useful bale gear yet or ace's feet. >_>
This makes me excited as hell though. I've always been a huge fan of drk.
Hence I used the qualifier "Generally".
I think it'll be real easy to stop bandwagon DRK's, especially on ***like Apademak.
"You gonna actually stun those self-cast thunder spells?"
"What lvl does drk get stun?" Dreadspikes? Endark? Absorb TP? what does that stuff do?
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2011-04-22 08:44:35
Odin.Zicdeh said: Ragnarok.Ashman said: Asura.Masekase said: Does this open up /war again ? Also, with red curry buns and this new last resort buff, you should be at 999 attack for 30/41st's (~73%) of the time. That kills a bit of what /war brought to the table. Pretty sure Attack just displays to 999, but doesn't actually cap there. Wasn't that answered in a Fanfest once? If attack was actually Hard-capped at 999, Tachi: Gekko would do less against Absolute Virtue than Tachi: Fudo, which totally isn't the case.
Derp... I don't know where my head was at when i wrote that. I was having a boss-over-shoulder moment i think. I still think that it'll diminish the relevance of berserk enough to remove /war as a contender (although i don't know about other subjob possibilities).
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By Quetzalcoatl.Volkom 2011-04-22 08:45:50
Ragnarok.Ashman said: Odin.Zicdeh said: Ragnarok.Ashman said: Asura.Masekase said: Does this open up /war again ? Also, with red curry buns and this new last resort buff, you should be at 999 attack for 30/41st's (~73%) of the time. That kills a bit of what /war brought to the table. Pretty sure Attack just displays to 999, but doesn't actually cap there. Wasn't that answered in a Fanfest once? If attack was actually Hard-capped at 999, Tachi: Gekko would do less against Absolute Virtue than Tachi: Fudo, which totally isn't the case.
Derp... I don't know where my head was at when i wrote that. I was having a boss-over-shoulder moment i think. I still think that it'll diminish the relevance of berserk enough to remove /war as a contender (although i don't know about other subjob possibilities). Drk/pld?
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2011-04-22 08:46:39
Quetzalcoatl.Volkom said: Odin.Zicdeh said: Serj said: Hey, I'm in full perle because I can't use my useful bale gear yet or ace's feet. >_>
This makes me excited as hell though. I've always been a huge fan of drk.
Hence I used the qualifier "Generally".
I think it'll be real easy to stop bandwagon DRK's, especially on ***like Apademak.
"You gonna actually stun those self-cast thunder spells?"
"What lvl does drk get stun?" Dreadspikes? Endark? Absorb TP? what does that stuff do?
I can handle someone not casting those 3, less so Dread Spikes if they pull hate. But Stun... That's what we've always brought to the game table. At the end of the day, if you can't stun ***like Gates of Hades, GaIII's and the like, you're better off on WAR.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Volkom 2011-04-22 08:48:42
Odin.Zicdeh said: Quetzalcoatl.Volkom said: Odin.Zicdeh said: Serj said: Hey, I'm in full perle because I can't use my useful bale gear yet or ace's feet. >_>
This makes me excited as hell though. I've always been a huge fan of drk.
Hence I used the qualifier "Generally".
I think it'll be real easy to stop bandwagon DRK's, especially on ***like Apademak.
"You gonna actually stun those self-cast thunder spells?"
"What lvl does drk get stun?" Dreadspikes? Endark? Absorb TP? what does that stuff do?
I can handle someone not casting those 3, less so Dread Spikes if they pull hate. But Stun... That's what we've always brought to the game table. At the end of the day, if you can't stun ***like Gates of Hades, GaIII's and the like, you're better off on WAR. true.
oh and something just hit me
drk/mnk for max hp boost and subtle blow for souleater maybe?
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-04-22 08:49:37
Quetzalcoatl.Volkom said: Odin.Zicdeh said: Quetzalcoatl.Volkom said: Odin.Zicdeh said: Serj said: Hey, I'm in full perle because I can't use my useful bale gear yet or ace's feet. >_>
This makes me excited as hell though. I've always been a huge fan of drk.
Hence I used the qualifier "Generally".
I think it'll be real easy to stop bandwagon DRK's, especially on ***like Apademak.
"You gonna actually stun those self-cast thunder spells?"
"What lvl does drk get stun?" Dreadspikes? Endark? Absorb TP? what does that stuff do?
I can handle someone not casting those 3, less so Dread Spikes if they pull hate. But Stun... That's what we've always brought to the game table. At the end of the day, if you can't stun ***like Gates of Hades, GaIII's and the like, you're better off on WAR. true.
oh and something just hit me
drk/mnk for max hp boost and subtle blow for souleater maybe?
/mnk was allways the best sub for zerging if you had 5/5 desperate blows tho <_>
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By Quetzalcoatl.Volkom 2011-04-22 08:51:34
Cerberus.Kvazz said: Quetzalcoatl.Volkom said: Odin.Zicdeh said: Quetzalcoatl.Volkom said: Odin.Zicdeh said: Serj said: Hey, I'm in full perle because I can't use my useful bale gear yet or ace's feet. >_>
This makes me excited as hell though. I've always been a huge fan of drk.
Hence I used the qualifier "Generally".
I think it'll be real easy to stop bandwagon DRK's, especially on ***like Apademak.
"You gonna actually stun those self-cast thunder spells?"
"What lvl does drk get stun?" Dreadspikes? Endark? Absorb TP? what does that stuff do?
I can handle someone not casting those 3, less so Dread Spikes if they pull hate. But Stun... That's what we've always brought to the game table. At the end of the day, if you can't stun ***like Gates of Hades, GaIII's and the like, you're better off on WAR. true.
oh and something just hit me
drk/mnk for max hp boost and subtle blow for souleater maybe?
/mnk was allways the best sub for zerging if you had 5/5 desperate blows tho <_> how does that work at Lv. 75? b.zhag? thought drk/drg was better
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By Diabolos.Inuyushi 2011-04-22 08:51:46
DRK/DRG! Super Jum.....oh wait nvm
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2011-04-22 08:52:01
Quetzalcoatl.Volkom said: Odin.Zicdeh said: Quetzalcoatl.Volkom said: Odin.Zicdeh said: Serj said: Hey, I'm in full perle because I can't use my useful bale gear yet or ace's feet. >_>
This makes me excited as hell though. I've always been a huge fan of drk.
Hence I used the qualifier "Generally".
I think it'll be real easy to stop bandwagon DRK's, especially on ***like Apademak.
"You gonna actually stun those self-cast thunder spells?"
"What lvl does drk get stun?" Dreadspikes? Endark? Absorb TP? what does that stuff do?
I can handle someone not casting those 3, less so Dread Spikes if they pull hate. But Stun... That's what we've always brought to the game table. At the end of the day, if you can't stun ***like Gates of Hades, GaIII's and the like, you're better off on WAR. true.
oh and something just hit me
drk/mnk for max hp boost and subtle blow for souleater maybe?
Meh, /MNK has it's place, but DD purposes are far from it.
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By Titan.Eiryn 2011-04-22 08:53:27
I know everyone is going crazy over the drk update mentioned, with good reason, but I am SERIOUSLY scared about the VIT being checked for crits... This will be a HUGE blow against Dual Wielders, and all Crit WSs. The latter being the point for the nerf, is my guess. This is really going to shift the balance dramatically. I do not like this at all!! ><
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-04-22 08:56:51
Titan.Eiryn said: I know everyone is going crazy over the drk update mentioned, with good reason, but I am SERIOUSLY scared about the VIT being checked for crits... This will be a HUGE blow against Dual Wielders, and all Crit WSs. The latter being the point for the nerf, is my guess. This is really going to shift the balance dramatically. I do not like this at all!! ><
I think it's done to balance out crit-ws DDs and other DDs.
This is gonna make all DDs rather equal.
But, atleast in abyssea, I doubt this will affect you alot, with all the STR you can pack up <_>
Probably gonna cap like ddex and agi etc, so you need 75 more STR than the mobs VIT.
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By Fenrir.Fearforever 2011-04-22 08:57:02
Titan.Eiryn said: I know everyone is going crazy over the drk update mentioned, with good reason, but I am SERIOUSLY scared about the VIT being checked for crits... This will be a HUGE blow against Dual Wielders, and all Crit WSs. The latter being the point for the nerf, is my guess. This is really going to shift the balance dramatically. I do not like this at all!! ><
I'm worried about it to, It'll really screw over NIN's and THF's ability to deal damage if it lowers our crits.
Not to mention Sneak attack, trick attack and all our THF's WS's, and Blade: Jin & Blade: Hi which are also Crit based ; ;
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By Fenrir.Ruebyy 2011-04-22 08:58:19
aaaah, Sweet Sweet Semen. Buff DKN. Nerf everyone else. My how the tables have turned.
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By Fenrir.Fearforever 2011-04-22 08:58:55
I raise you this!
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By Bismarck.Luces 2011-04-22 08:59:15
Bismarck.Maxse said: SO DRK gets 25% JA haste every 4 mins 10 seconds for 3 mins? O.o
MMM if thats the case leveling Dark next.
What is this..... last resort has nothing to do with haste.... ***the bandwagoning has already started
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By Fenrir.Fearforever 2011-04-22 09:00:28
Bismarck.Luces said: Bismarck.Maxse said: SO DRK gets 25% JA haste every 4 mins 10 seconds for 3 mins? O.o
MMM if thats the case leveling Dark next.
What is this..... last resort has nothing to do with haste.... ***the bandwagoning has already started
He's refering to DRK's merited ability Desperate Blows, when Last resort is on maxed out provides 25% JA haste
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By Titan.Eiryn 2011-04-22 09:01:44
Bismarck.Luces said: Bismarck.Maxse said: SO DRK gets 25% JA haste every 4 mins 10 seconds for 3 mins? O.o
MMM if thats the case leveling Dark next.
What is this..... last resort has nothing to do with haste.... ***the bandwagoning has already started
If you merit Desperate Blows it is.... OOOOH SNAAAP!
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They've posted something on the forum but I can't access it at work. Someone help a firewall blocked ffxi addict?
Source
Cerberus.Savannah said: Quote: [dev1010] Job Adjustments
• The forthcoming version update is scheduled to feature the following job adjustments:
• Dark Knight:
-The effect duration of the job ability Last Resort will be increased from 30 to 180 seconds.
• Ranger:
-The recast time of the job ability Bounty Shot will be reduced from 5 minutes to 1 minute, and a successful hit will occasionally enhance the effect of Treasure Hunter.
-The job ability Barrage will launch an additional projectile at level 90.
-Accuracy calculations for Barrage will be eased in proportion to the maximum number of shots.
• Puppetmaster:
The following automaton attachments will be added:
Name Description
Heat Capacitor (A fire-based automaton attachment.)
Functionality: Erases all Fire Maneuver effects to restore TP.
Power Cooler (An ice-based automaton attachment.)
Functionality: Reduces MP cost in proportion to the number of Ice Maneuvers in effect.
Barrage Turbine (A wind-based automaton attachment.)
Functionality: Erases all Wind Maneuver effects to occasionally grant a Barrage effect.
Galvanizer (A lightning-based automaton attachment.)
Functionality: Increases chance of countering in proportion to the number of Thunder Maneuvers in effect.
• The following weapon skills will be added for the Valoredge and Sharpshot frames:
Skill Name - Frame - Effect
String Shredder - Valoredge - Delivers a twofold attack.
Critical hit rate varies with TP.
Armor Shatterer - Sharpshot - Delivers a fourfold attack.
Additional effect: Weakens defense
Additional effect duration varies with TP.
• Job Traits
• The following job traits will be added:
Job Trait Level Obtained* Effect
Tranquil Heart: WHM Lv.21/RDM Lv.26/SCH Lv.30 - Reduces enmity gain when casting healing magic.
Stalwart Soul: DRK Lv.45 - Reduces HP consumption when using Souleater.
Dead Aim: RNG Lv.50 - Improves power of critical hits for ranged attacks.
*The level indicated is that at which the trait will initially be obtained. Trait effectiveness will subsequently increase at higher levels.
• Certain job traits will see their maximum level of effectiveness adjusted by equipment, magic, and/or job abilities.
Other Adjustments
• VIT will play a role in calculating damage taken from critical hits.
• Experience point penalties when KO’d will be eased for characters level 75 and below.
At levels 1–30, the penalty will be removed entirely. At levels 31–75, the amount of XP lost will be lowered
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