Job Adjustments (4/21/11)
Job Adjustments (4/21/11)
now if drk could just get a good scythe ws
3min Desperate blows?
***. YES.
***. YES.
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Ifrit.Hitoseijuro said:
Asura.Tezmania said:
Yeh well, can pretty much have desperate blows up 80% of the time now which is a huge increase. I worry about the hate generation now for them lol!
This makes drk/nin pretty nice aswell, you sacrifice the stp/meditate for sure, but for w/e reason you have to sub /nin atleast you didnt lose the haste in attack speed.
Well, uh, 3% haste at 77% is an entirely different effect than 3% haste at say, 25%.
Also, Soul Voice isn't exactly a buff to count on having.
stalwart soul: ....by less hp, they better not mean less dmg
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Lol @ the Critical hit Gimp. I didn't even read that. Moar like Sukko's Fury and Mediocrity Smite now, amirite?!
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Ragnarok.Amador said:
Well...
This could be bad, really bad.
Other Adjustments
• VIT will play a role in calculating damage taken from critical hits.
This is a quote from the new update.
If this is player only, great.
But it never is... in the past, calculations for H2H/Dual Weild/Ja's etc, have also had effects on mobs.
This will imply that all Critical Hit WS's and Critical Hit's will be receiving a damage gimp. Considering most mobs do possess fairly high VIT, even if it ends up being a 10-15% Damage Decrease from Crit's it'll be big enough to notice. Especially outside of Abyssea.
:( not very happy right now.
This could be bad, really bad.
Other Adjustments
• VIT will play a role in calculating damage taken from critical hits.
This is a quote from the new update.
If this is player only, great.
But it never is... in the past, calculations for H2H/Dual Weild/Ja's etc, have also had effects on mobs.
This will imply that all Critical Hit WS's and Critical Hit's will be receiving a damage gimp. Considering most mobs do possess fairly high VIT, even if it ends up being a 10-15% Damage Decrease from Crit's it'll be big enough to notice. Especially outside of Abyssea.
:( not very happy right now.
Carbuncle.Lynxblade said:
stalwart soul: ....by less hp, they better not mean less dmg
Probably not.
I recently did Muted Soul merits, as diabolic eye is rather useless now(lol), and this is probably gonna make souleater way easier to fulltime no matter how good your healers are, awesome!
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i need to work on my 2-4 hit scythe >_> im on peiste atm...
Ramuh.Rowland said:
No one else seemed the mention this yet:
Seems pretty big to me. I might actually level a new job now (doubt it). Otherwise this update doesn't really hold any interest for me.
Quote:
At levels 1–30, the penalty will be removed entirely. At levels 31–75, the amount of XP lost will be lowered as indicated in the chart below.
Seems pretty big to me. I might actually level a new job now (doubt it). Otherwise this update doesn't really hold any interest for me.
that kinda pisses me off actually, leveling is so goddamn easy these days, why make it even easier? >_<
The exp penalty removed will be nice, you will be able to try stupid stuff and HP without penalty. "Nope that camp doesn't work at 22, lets try something else." BST pre-30 will be nice and post 30 if you dont abysseafy it.
Also, I'm curious if Bounty shot will be able to help THF proc more TH. I know Bounty shot is initially TH2 but if it can 'occasionally' proc higher TH I will be interested to see if Bounty shot can proc a thf's TH from say 8 to 9 and then the THF can proc it from 9 to 10
Also, I'm curious if Bounty shot will be able to help THF proc more TH. I know Bounty shot is initially TH2 but if it can 'occasionally' proc higher TH I will be interested to see if Bounty shot can proc a thf's TH from say 8 to 9 and then the THF can proc it from 9 to 10
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Odin.Zicdeh said:
Ifrit.Hitoseijuro said:
Asura.Tezmania said:
Yeh well, can pretty much have desperate blows up 80% of the time now which is a huge increase. I worry about the hate generation now for them lol!
I agree with your first part.
Ragnarok.Amador said:
Well... This could be bad, really bad. Other Adjustments • VIT will play a role in calculating damage taken from critical hits. This is a quote from the new update. If this is player only, great. But it never is... in the past, calculations for H2H/Dual Weild/Ja's etc, have also had effects on mobs. This will imply that all Critical Hit WS's and Critical Hit's will be receiving a damage gimp. Considering most mobs do possess fairly high VIT, even if it ends up being a 10-15% Damage Decrease from Crit's it'll be big enough to notice. Especially outside of Abyssea. :( not very happy right now.
They will probably make it something like a STR/VIT calculation again, otherwise level 95+ mob's stat scaling would make crit hits borderline useless. As long as you're not a notoriously gimp player, I wouldn't wet the bed over this yet..... nvm.
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Is DRK gonna be top DD outside of aby now?
Assuming you can stay on the mob fulltime etc
Assuming you can stay on the mob fulltime etc
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Cerberus.Kvazz said:
Is DRK gonna be top DD outside of aby now?
Assuming you can stay on the mob fulltime etc
Assuming you can stay on the mob fulltime etc
They weren't exactly low outside of abyssea to begin with. To assume anything less than a Top Place with what amounts to 3minutes of the most powerful Non-SoulVoiced Haste effect in the game, unique only to them, is just stupid.
They might even be competitive inside abyssea, especially considering the potential implications of the VIT-CRIT nerf.
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Bismarck.Altar said:
Cerberus.Savannah said:
•VIT will play a role in calculating damage taken from critical hits.
Pld Vit build like its 2006!! Yeaaaaaaaaah!
/sarcasm
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Odin.Zicdeh said:
Cerberus.Kvazz said:
Is DRK gonna be top DD outside of aby now?
Assuming you can stay on the mob fulltime etc
Assuming you can stay on the mob fulltime etc
They weren't exactly low outside of abyssea to begin with. To assume anything less than a Top Place with what amounts to 3minutes of the most powerful Non-SoulVoiced Haste effect in the game, unique only to them, is just stupid.
They might even be competitive inside abyssea, especially considering the potential implications of the VIT-CRIT nerf.
What do you mean by 3 mins of the most powerful haste effect in the game? Is Desperate Blows not on 100% of the time? I'm not a drk by any means but would like to understand it more. I don't plan on jumping on the bandwagon if DRK is the new MNK. I'll keep to my mnk tyvm pre-pimp times and post-gimp times
Odin.Zicdeh said:
Cerberus.Kvazz said:
Is DRK gonna be top DD outside of aby now?
Assuming you can stay on the mob fulltime etc
Assuming you can stay on the mob fulltime etc
They weren't exactly low outside of abyssea to begin with. To assume anything less than a Top Place with what amounts to 3minutes of the most powerful Non-SoulVoiced Haste effect in the game, unique only to them, is just stupid.
They might even be competitive inside abyssea, especially considering the potential implications of the VIT-CRIT nerf.
Gonna be competitive inside aswell, depending on buffs.
Can more or less count on fulltime soul voice if you have 1-2 more people than you need for nms etc.
But yeah, DRK is good outside as it currently stands aswell, but this is a huge boost..
Will push the job up alot, generally >_>
Diabolos.Inuyushi said:
Odin.Zicdeh said:
Cerberus.Kvazz said:
Is DRK gonna be top DD outside of aby now?
Assuming you can stay on the mob fulltime etc
Assuming you can stay on the mob fulltime etc
They weren't exactly low outside of abyssea to begin with. To assume anything less than a Top Place with what amounts to 3minutes of the most powerful Non-SoulVoiced Haste effect in the game, unique only to them, is just stupid.
They might even be competitive inside abyssea, especially considering the potential implications of the VIT-CRIT nerf.
What do you mean by 3 mins of the most powerful haste effect in the game? Is Desperate Blows not on 100% of the time? I'm not a drk by any means but would like to understand it more. I don't plan on jumping on the bandwagon if DRK is the new MNK. I'll keep to my mnk tyvm pre-pimp times and post-gimp times
Desperate blows is only on when last resort is.
So it's limited to 30sec every 5min as it is atm.
Edit: well, every 4min 10sec with merits* :P
[I see.] I have trouble with reading full sentences. I guess that goes on wiki also. I just read that 'job traits are always active' and assumed DB was fulltime on. Thanks!
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Does this open up /war again ?
Asura.Masekase said:
Does this open up /war again ?
Gonna lose xhit builds and other small nice buffs from /sam, and we can now use seigan/thirdeye as a offensive buff when last resort is up(Counter)
Asura.Masekase said:
Does this open up /war again ?
Also, with red curry buns and this new last resort buff, you should be at 999 attack for 30/41st's (~73%) of the time. That kills a bit of what /war brought to the table.
Also, if your desperate blows is capped you could leave seigan up to reduce damage taken.
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Ragnarok.Ashman said:
Asura.Masekase said:
Does this open up /war again ?
Also, with red curry buns and this new last resort buff, you should be at 999 attack for 30/41st's (~73%) of the time. That kills a bit of what /war brought to the table.
Pretty sure Attack just displays to 999, but doesn't actually cap there. Wasn't that answered in a Fanfest once? If attack was actually Hard-capped at 999, Tachi: Gekko would do less against Absolute Virtue than Tachi: Fudo, which totally isn't the case.
Time to break out the drk zerg all over again !!! The question is should i keep my B.Zaghnal or work on multihit scythe. I was a M.Kris zerg drk before abby, now with the updates, 5/5 desperate blows, and the hp/haste build, DoT might be better with scythe rather then M.Kris or Ridill. *Breaks out the "Your Soul is Mine" macros*
Why do people only think of zerging when they see this? :P
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Sylph.Agentblade said:
Time to break out the drk zerg all over again !!! The question is should i keep my B.Zaghnal or work on multihit scythe. I was a M.Kris zerg drk before abby, now with the updates, 5/5 desperate blows, and the hp/haste build, DoT might be better with scythe rather then M.Kris or Ridill. *Breaks out the "Your Soul is Mine" macros*
Wat.
If anything Last Resort increased duration makes Things like Bahamut'z Zaghnal and zerg weapons entirely useless. Get an ODD (Redemption or Caladbolg)
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Seems that I picked a good time to level up drk (got it to 84 yesterday). Inb4 bandwagon drks.
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Odin.Zicdeh said:
Sylph.Agentblade said:
Time to break out the drk zerg all over again !!! The question is should i keep my B.Zaghnal or work on multihit scythe. I was a M.Kris zerg drk before abby, now with the updates, 5/5 desperate blows, and the hp/haste build, DoT might be better with scythe rather then M.Kris or Ridill. *Breaks out the "Your Soul is Mine" macros*
Wat.
If anything Last Resort increased duration makes Things like Bahamut'z Zaghnal and zerg weapons entirely useless. Get an ODD (Redemption or Caladbolg)
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