Mattress Firm Refuses To Sell To Muslim Woman

Business owners have the right to refuse service or sales to anyone for any reason they deem fit. Even if it is absolutely HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE.

You dont really have to worry about Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia is about as western friendly as it gets. If you wanted to get stoned you should travel back in time to pre-invasion afghanistan and sleep with a widowed woman. You both would likely be stoned if you even got as far as sleeping with her.

No they don't lol I really don't know why everyone believes this, it's just not true.

Actually, they do. They can refuse to serve anyone. They can also be hit with lawsuits for discrimination if they don't apply the reason to everyone equally or if the reason is such that its discrimination. Still, they CAN refuse to serve anyone. There are just repercussions sometimes ^^

The legalities depend on their documented reason. Which can easily be lied about or made into some sort of facade to guise their true intentions of denying service to a patron.

lol which is exactly what it means to not have the right to refuse service or sales to anyone for any reason they deem fit. /cross-eyes

Except the documentation rarely follows reality exactly

Read more argue less. Argueing things people never said just makes you look like an idiot

If you grew up brainwashed into that culture you would be proud to wear a burka. It doesn't change the fact that it's a disgusting custom.

It's the whole forcing them to use it.

And actually their feelings or anyones for that matter are irrelevant and have nothing to do with oppression.

being "brainwashed" into believing in equality for all cannot be compared to being brainwashed into thinking an entire class of human beings is subordinate to another.

I would urge you to take your own advice.

And? The point is, the fact that they don't view it as oppressive in their own culture has little to no bearing on how oppressive an act it is.

I think a lot of the angry people in this thread want / desire laws that force business owners to serve people they don't want too.


Government discrimination (burka law etc) bad


business discrimination (although HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE) should be their right.

I believe businesses should be allowed to serve whoever they decide too and deny service in the same way.

If a shop uses such abhorrent methods of service a community can always shun them.. no need to spend millions of dollars/euros / w/e fighting HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE court cases...

bawww they didn't sell me a matress Q.Q .. just go to a different store.. their loss lol

Wow...I go to bed, go to one of my jobs, eat dinner, and this thread is still going, lol...

I have nothing new to add, but I found this amusing:


You may want to take your own advice, considering you said this to me last night:



Thanking someone for joining a thread and adding to your point of view has never automatically implied, "WAH! ONLY PEOPLE WHO AGREE WITH ME SHOULD POST HERE!", and your stating it as fact was leaping to a very bizarre and dumb conclusion, and kind of makes you look, well..I don't want to say, "idiot", because I don't resort to ad hominems, but...it sure doesn't appear you thought it through before saying it.

Just for future reference, if you're going to make accusations like that, you should actually have something to back it up, such as a quote from me saying, "If you don't agree with me, you're not worth posting here."

But we both know you can't come up with that, lol...so your -assumption- was utterly erroneous and did nothing to contribute to the discussion in a productive manner. However, by then I realized I was just starting to be attacked for anything I said, so, it rolled right off. ^,^

In any case, after reading through the new posts, I still personally believe that the manager acted out of racial and/or religious discrimination, but I certainly respect the opinions of those who believe otherwise. I guess none of us will ever actually know the truth.

And with that, I'm out of here...thanks to everyone for posting, whether we agreed or disagreed...lively discussion is what makes Internet forums go 'round. 8)

Dude, oppression is mutual? Is that a prerequisite? What rule book did you get this from?

Basically, your argument is that as long as these women don't feel oppressed by being forced to wear a burka, it should be a tolerated social practice, and anyone who does not tolerate it is considered racist.

Anyone can be conditioned from birth to believe any damn thing someone wants, and to believe it's the best route for them. There are women in some societies who willingly undergo female genital mutilation because they've been convinced that it is what is best for them. Just because they don't realize it's wrong doesn't make it any less wrong.

Not with all this again..

I'm sure muslim's feel the same way about male circumcisions

As for burka's, it's religious clothing.. if they want to wear it let them...

as long as there aren't armed gangs of muslim's running around forcibly putting burka's on people i don't see the problem.


Would you feel the same way about christian parents forcing their children to wear crosses?

Completely different. I didn't say you said that I merely said that's what you were doing/thinking. Big difference. Nice attempt try again.

You were thanking a guy for joining a thread for agreeing with you. Pure and simple

So much hate in this thread...

over clothing :(

I once went into an Ashley's furniture store wearing a speedo and they refused me service ;(. They are racists.

One time my local radio station dared a guy to go to a denny's just wearing a shirt shoes and the radio stations bumper stickers strategically placed by there female interns for concert tickets. He did it and of course got refused service. Was kinda funny cause I guess they called the cops... and turns out there were cops already there when I left. Then they talk to the cops and turns out he was a listener trying to find the dennys so he could see it for himself

I found something funny related to this piece of clothing. If this got posted already, oh well, it's funny enough to be posted again.

Good, dont sell them mattresses. Maybe they'll get so cranky that they might make their bomb wrong and blow themselves up.