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By Lakshmi.Watusa 2014-01-18 14:13:05
I have seen that video before and I am 21 and the hip just degenerated out of no where I am conviced it was because of some medication I was given for acne over the summer before this happend I can not remember the name of that medication I will make a edit If I remember it but when my hip first gave me problems doctor gave me arthritec and oxycoten to take and I am sure that made things way worse with my hip and those did mess up my stomic something bad. The natral path I am seeing right now he used to be a MD a shrink and a surgion and he is now a natrual path. he has cured people of cancer and other things. and he has told me storys about the medical system. like it is bad practice to cure the paitents because they will have no need to come back and that means no money. and sorry again for my bad spelling and gramer.
Edit: the acne drug i had was monocyclin or minicyclin not sure what exactly it was but was something along that line
We live in Canada Ryan. No matter how many patients they cure, they'll always have an income from the government. Can't really use that as an excuse. that is the part I am still trying to figer out is goverment paying for things with medical. If went all natrual for things they would save alot of money my guess is pharmaceuticals has more a impact on goverment then we think but I am not entirly sure about that
Ironically alternative medicine is more of a business in Canada than traditional medicine is. It cost me nothing to get my gallbladder removed last year at the hospital. How much do you think I would have spent on snake oil and self-healing massages if I went the alternative route?
The medical field is one of the most legit practices in the world man. To deny the need for modern medicine is extremely ignorant. Alternative medicine is a load of ***, even chiropractics barely has any scientific research supporting its usefulness.
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By Valefor.Endoq 2014-01-18 19:51:53
seems that the gut pain is gone. I guess I just needed a few days to adjust to healthy foods, I actually feel really good and have a lot of energy today, been feeling like I need to go do stuff instead of sitting around lol (but it's to damn cold outside!)
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By Odin.Godofgods 2014-01-18 20:05:12
I was looking at gps systems for something else and i happened to notice this item.
While that seems a bit excessive i have been wondering about an item that can track distance and heart rate while walking or running. I had looked at some items a long while ago, but everything was mixed reviews or not quite what i was looking for. I eventually got side tracked and forgot about it. But i was wondering if anyone has used items like that and there thoughts on the one they used.
any suggestions?
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2014-01-18 20:12:13
seems that the gut pain is gone. I guess I just needed a few days to adjust to healthy foods, I actually feel really good and have a lot of energy today, been feeling like I need to go do stuff instead of sitting around lol (but it's to damn cold outside!)
Pushups are a nice way to begin working out and although they can be discouraging at first, you will improve fast and your progress can be inspiring. Doing them during commercial breaks is a good way trick yourself into them if you are a couch potato.
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By Ragnarok.Zeig 2014-01-19 00:58:46
Can you demonstrate that you have actually regenerated cartilage? Not that you have increased mobility, but that you have genuinely increased the volume of cartilage in your hip joint. Also, if you don't mind my asking, what decade of your life are you in (teens, 20s, 30s, etc.)?
I'm not going to say all physicians are correct, particularly because I said the exact opposite near the top of this page. As a rule, hospital physicians (as opposed to general practicioners) tend to assume the worst case scenario. And they lie flagrantly to patients. The pessimism and lying are somewhat connected: if you give too much hope, patients may refuse treatment which can ultimately lead to worse problems, not least of which can be a malpractice suit. Patients have done a lot to ruin medicine owing to the excessively litigious nature of contemporary society.
When your doctor told you that cartilage doesn't regenerate, he was stretching the truth. It can regenerate, but it is atypical. About half the things you listed in your diet are probably irrelevant factors, too. Proper therapy, youth, and a little luck can allow for the recovery from injury, but it's not a sure thing. Lemme see if I can find a video:
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He destroyed his cartilage as a result of years of paratrooper training and deployment. He was crippled and got worse as a consequence of obesity. Eventually he fought back and won out. Part of that was luck, more of it was work.
If you worked in a hospital and saw how few patients are willing to put in even the slightest modicum of effort towards their recovery, you'd become jaded, too. When I was about 11, I threw out my back. That's not something an 11-year-old should be able to do. I was put into physical therapy to recover. And I fought every inch of the way, doing as little as possible and giving up quickly. My mother eventually realized that PT wasn't going to work with me and convinced me to take up ballet instead, which worked to correct my back problems and also assisted with my pigeon-toed feet (though consequently twisted my femurs during puberty and thereby made it painful for me to run). I actually have a laundry list of moderate disabilities that I've learned to ignore and, surprisingly, I am considerably stronger than most people I know in spite, largely because I eventually learned that I had to put in the effort.
Is medicine perfect? Hardly. Are doctors totally reliable? Not while they're still human. But an occasional flawed diagnosis is not a reason to reject modern medicine in favor of some fluff-headed homeopathic nonsense.
Oh, and although I will admit that I am biased because my father is a DO, I strongly recommend people seek DOs if at all possible. MDs are notorious for relying on pills to fix problems and, you're right, pills aren't always the answer. The above poster, Beef, if he spoke to an MD would probably be given a prescription for a high dose of ibuprofen. A DO would be more likely to recommend therapy or stretching, as I did. When I cracked my skull a couple months ago, I was given a scrip for oxycodone that I opted not to fill because Tylenol controlled the pain. On the other hand, though, when I nearly went deaf at age 6 due to a long series of ear infections (note: kids get ear infections very commonly, be prepared for it when/if you have them), it would have been insane not to send me into surgery to correct the problem.
There's no single perfect solution. The best advice I can offer as someone who has literally grown up in hospitals (I went to medical school with my father for heaven's sake!) is to do your best to educate yourself. That's a lot easier said than done, though. The internet is a wonderful resource but perusing WebMD for a few minutes has a bad habit of leaving people feeling hypochondriac. It takes a lot of time to sort out truth from fiction. It's unfortunate, but medicine is constantly progressing and errors do happen. That's no good reason to condemn it, though. Your story was interesting, Onor (especially the bit of going to med school with your father!). That shed some light on why you seem to be so familiar with medical terminology and conditions.
It's good to hear that you longer get sick, Endoq. What I gathered from how you previously described your case is that you probably had bouts of Acute Bronchitis (which is very common, and self-limiting. I'm having that atm). Despite MDs knowing that it's viral in most cases, it's probably the number 1 cause for antibiotic abuse, as most MDs will prescribe an antibiotic anyways. I was just surprised that you seemed to not know what your diagnosis was, so I assumed your doctor never took the time to tell you..which is weird, as counselling your patient is a crucial part of the Step 2 Clinical Skills USMLE (one of the mandatory medical licensing exams). It shouldn't take more than a minute in your case.
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2014-01-19 02:30:37
Can you demonstrate that you have actually regenerated cartilage? Not that you have increased mobility, but that you have genuinely increased the volume of cartilage in your hip joint. Also, if you don't mind my asking, what decade of your life are you in (teens, 20s, 30s, etc.)?
I'm not going to say all physicians are correct, particularly because I said the exact opposite near the top of this page. As a rule, hospital physicians (as opposed to general practicioners) tend to assume the worst case scenario. And they lie flagrantly to patients. The pessimism and lying are somewhat connected: if you give too much hope, patients may refuse treatment which can ultimately lead to worse problems, not least of which can be a malpractice suit. Patients have done a lot to ruin medicine owing to the excessively litigious nature of contemporary society.
When your doctor told you that cartilage doesn't regenerate, he was stretching the truth. It can regenerate, but it is atypical. About half the things you listed in your diet are probably irrelevant factors, too. Proper therapy, youth, and a little luck can allow for the recovery from injury, but it's not a sure thing. Lemme see if I can find a video:
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He destroyed his cartilage as a result of years of paratrooper training and deployment. He was crippled and got worse as a consequence of obesity. Eventually he fought back and won out. Part of that was luck, more of it was work.
If you worked in a hospital and saw how few patients are willing to put in even the slightest modicum of effort towards their recovery, you'd become jaded, too. When I was about 11, I threw out my back. That's not something an 11-year-old should be able to do. I was put into physical therapy to recover. And I fought every inch of the way, doing as little as possible and giving up quickly. My mother eventually realized that PT wasn't going to work with me and convinced me to take up ballet instead, which worked to correct my back problems and also assisted with my pigeon-toed feet (though consequently twisted my femurs during puberty and thereby made it painful for me to run). I actually have a laundry list of moderate disabilities that I've learned to ignore and, surprisingly, I am considerably stronger than most people I know in spite, largely because I eventually learned that I had to put in the effort.
Is medicine perfect? Hardly. Are doctors totally reliable? Not while they're still human. But an occasional flawed diagnosis is not a reason to reject modern medicine in favor of some fluff-headed homeopathic nonsense.
Oh, and although I will admit that I am biased because my father is a DO, I strongly recommend people seek DOs if at all possible. MDs are notorious for relying on pills to fix problems and, you're right, pills aren't always the answer. The above poster, Beef, if he spoke to an MD would probably be given a prescription for a high dose of ibuprofen. A DO would be more likely to recommend therapy or stretching, as I did. When I cracked my skull a couple months ago, I was given a scrip for oxycodone that I opted not to fill because Tylenol controlled the pain. On the other hand, though, when I nearly went deaf at age 6 due to a long series of ear infections (note: kids get ear infections very commonly, be prepared for it when/if you have them), it would have been insane not to send me into surgery to correct the problem.
There's no single perfect solution. The best advice I can offer as someone who has literally grown up in hospitals (I went to medical school with my father for heaven's sake!) is to do your best to educate yourself. That's a lot easier said than done, though. The internet is a wonderful resource but perusing WebMD for a few minutes has a bad habit of leaving people feeling hypochondriac. It takes a lot of time to sort out truth from fiction. It's unfortunate, but medicine is constantly progressing and errors do happen. That's no good reason to condemn it, though. Your story was interesting, Onor (especially the bit of going to med school with your father!). That shed some light on why you seem to be so familiar with medical terminology and conditions.
It's good to hear that you longer get sick, Endoq. What I gathered from how you previously described your case is that you probably had bouts of Acute Bronchitis (which is very common, and self-limiting. I'm having that atm). Despite MDs knowing that it's viral in most cases, it's probably the number 1 cause for antibiotic abuse, as most MDs will prescribe an antibiotic anyways. I was just surprised that you seemed to not know what your diagnosis was, so I assumed your doctor never took the time to tell you..which is weird, as counselling your patient is a crucial part of the Step 2 Clinical Skills USMLE (one of the mandatory medical licensing exams). It shouldn't take more than a minute in your case.
That's not true different for all MDs with antibiotic treatment. The way an IDS will persribe is vastly different than a general practicioner.
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By Valefor.Endoq 2014-01-19 03:07:58
yeah he literally only listened to my lungs and that was it and then gave me a list of drugs to get filled. he did ask some basic questions, like how long have i been sick
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By Ragnarok.Zeig 2014-01-19 03:24:46
Bahamut.Baconwrap said: »That's not true different for all MDs with antibiotic treatment. The way an IDS will persribe is vastly different than a general practicioner. 1- I never said "all MD's".
2- IDS's represent a small percentage of MD's.
3- For cases like URTI, the majority of patients will be cared for by GP's anyways.
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By Shiva.Onorgul 2014-01-19 05:12:39
yeah he literally only listened to my lungs and that was it and then gave me a list of drugs to get filled. he did ask some basic questions, like how long have i been sick So at the risk of being confrontational, did you ask him what the diagnosis was and to give a brief rundown of the implications? Even in a free clinic with a long line of patients to see, I cannot imagine any physician getting upset at being asked that question. Most will be pleased that you're taking an interest. It would have also opened the opportunity to ask why he was throwing antibiotics (which may as well be called antibacterials, really) at a viral infection. On the off chance you meet someone who refuses to answer basic questions like these, run far and fast.
That said, be very cautious with flaunting information. If you don't know what you're talking about and say something like, "I read this on WebMD...", your physician is well within his/her rights to roll their eyes. On the other hand, if you're like me and get tired of the rote warnings that pharmacists give when filling prescriptions, there's a fun game to play if you're male: when filling a scrip for antibiotics and telling you the usual spiel ("Make sure to take the whole bottle, even if you start feeling better," etc.), add in "And be warned that it'll interfere with my birth control pills." I imagine most men don't realize it since we never have a reason to, but antibiotics will negate birth control, so it's a standard warning to give women. I say it to indicate that I know how my meds work and to watch their confused faces. It's priceless.
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By Valefor.Endoq 2014-01-19 11:45:56
When I went to the doctor he told me I have a bacterial infection I think. I'm not sure how he would know this without a test though. I did get a huge list worth of those warnings about the antibiotics verbally and on paper from the doctor and from the pharmacist (seems more like to avoid being sued than out of genuine concern, but that's pure negative speculation on my part). I'm not sexually active and birth control goes against my beliefs I have against this school of allopathic medicines and the way they work against the natural order of things. (that is hilarious what you did though, lol)
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2014-01-19 13:59:09
Bahamut.Baconwrap said: »That's not true different for all MDs with antibiotic treatment. The way an IDS will persribe is vastly different than a general practicioner. 1- I never said "all MD's".
2- IDS's represent a small percentage of MD's.
3- For cases like URTI, the majority of patients will be cared for by GP's anyways.
1. Internal Medicine/IDS is a fairly common residency program, it's not that small.
2. If one is concerned OCD about antibiotic resistance switch your primary care to an internist or IDS.
3. My primary care physician is an IDS and let me say getting him to prescribe me an antibiotic is like pulling teeth!
Anyways the MD bashing is a bit off-thread-topic I think lol.
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By Lakshmi.Ryanx 2014-01-19 21:57:23
I have seen that video before and I am 21 and the hip just degenerated out of no where I am conviced it was because of some medication I was given for acne over the summer before this happend I can not remember the name of that medication I will make a edit If I remember it but when my hip first gave me problems doctor gave me arthritec and oxycoten to take and I am sure that made things way worse with my hip and those did mess up my stomic something bad. The natral path I am seeing right now he used to be a MD a shrink and a surgion and he is now a natrual path. he has cured people of cancer and other things. and he has told me storys about the medical system. like it is bad practice to cure the paitents because they will have no need to come back and that means no money. and sorry again for my bad spelling and gramer.
Edit: the acne drug i had was monocyclin or minicyclin not sure what exactly it was but was something along that line
We live in Canada Ryan. No matter how many patients they cure, they'll always have an income from the government. Can't really use that as an excuse. that is the part I am still trying to figer out is goverment paying for things with medical. If went all natrual for things they would save alot of money my guess is pharmaceuticals has more a impact on goverment then we think but I am not entirly sure about that Me and a friend got talking about this. this does make alot of sence if you think about it with the way the medical system is it is all about population control. think about how many people would be around today if people where not die from dieseses. There probly would be a issue with food and over crowding of places. this is just a theroy on it though.
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By Lakshmi.Watusa 2014-01-19 22:28:08
I have seen that video before and I am 21 and the hip just degenerated out of no where I am conviced it was because of some medication I was given for acne over the summer before this happend I can not remember the name of that medication I will make a edit If I remember it but when my hip first gave me problems doctor gave me arthritec and oxycoten to take and I am sure that made things way worse with my hip and those did mess up my stomic something bad. The natral path I am seeing right now he used to be a MD a shrink and a surgion and he is now a natrual path. he has cured people of cancer and other things. and he has told me storys about the medical system. like it is bad practice to cure the paitents because they will have no need to come back and that means no money. and sorry again for my bad spelling and gramer.
Edit: the acne drug i had was monocyclin or minicyclin not sure what exactly it was but was something along that line
We live in Canada Ryan. No matter how many patients they cure, they'll always have an income from the government. Can't really use that as an excuse. that is the part I am still trying to figer out is goverment paying for things with medical. If went all natrual for things they would save alot of money my guess is pharmaceuticals has more a impact on goverment then we think but I am not entirly sure about that Me and a friend got talking about this. this does make alot of sence if you think about it with the way the medical system is it is all about population control. think about how many people would be around today if people where not die from dieseses. There probly would be a issue with food and over crowding of places. this is just a theroy on it though.
Ryan, just stop.
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By Ragnarok.Zeig 2014-01-19 22:35:32
Bahamut.Baconwrap said: »Bahamut.Baconwrap said: »That's not true different for all MDs with antibiotic treatment. The way an IDS will persribe is vastly different than a general practicioner. 1- I never said "all MD's".
2- IDS's represent a small percentage of MD's.
3- For cases like URTI, the majority of patients will be cared for by GP's anyways.
1. Internal Medicine/IDS is a fairly common residency program, it's not that small.
2. If one is concerned OCD about antibiotic resistance switch your primary care to an internist or IDS.
3. My primary care physician is an IDS and let me say getting him to prescribe me an antibiotic is like pulling teeth!
Anyways the MD bashing is a bit off-thread-topic I think lol. I agree it's off-topic lol. But just a question: Isn't ID a sub-specialty of internal medicine? Meaning that ID is a fellowship program for which to qualify you'd need to be an internist. Or can you start a residency in ID in the US? I'm not from the US so you probably know better.
EDIT: probably that's what you meant by "internal medicine/IDS", as in it's a route.
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By Lakshmi.Ryanx 2014-01-20 00:50:14
I have seen that video before and I am 21 and the hip just degenerated out of no where I am conviced it was because of some medication I was given for acne over the summer before this happend I can not remember the name of that medication I will make a edit If I remember it but when my hip first gave me problems doctor gave me arthritec and oxycoten to take and I am sure that made things way worse with my hip and those did mess up my stomic something bad. The natral path I am seeing right now he used to be a MD a shrink and a surgion and he is now a natrual path. he has cured people of cancer and other things. and he has told me storys about the medical system. like it is bad practice to cure the paitents because they will have no need to come back and that means no money. and sorry again for my bad spelling and gramer.
Edit: the acne drug i had was monocyclin or minicyclin not sure what exactly it was but was something along that line
We live in Canada Ryan. No matter how many patients they cure, they'll always have an income from the government. Can't really use that as an excuse. that is the part I am still trying to figer out is goverment paying for things with medical. If went all natrual for things they would save alot of money my guess is pharmaceuticals has more a impact on goverment then we think but I am not entirly sure about that Me and a friend got talking about this. this does make alot of sence if you think about it with the way the medical system is it is all about population control. think about how many people would be around today if people where not die from dieseses. There probly would be a issue with food and over crowding of places. this is just a theroy on it though.
Ryan, just stop. Fine Just saying how I see things and what I have learned over the last year. I will not post anything else if you are offended by this
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By Valefor.Endoq 2014-01-20 01:07:08
This new diet is great, I'm hardly even hungry anymore and I never had this happen except for when I was on low carbs (I'm not on a low carb diet) 
Many valid arguments, but maybe we should start a new thread for conspiracy topics and stick to health/medical advice here~_^
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By Lakshmi.Ryanx 2014-01-20 02:07:38
This new diet is great, I'm hardly even hungry anymore and I never had this happen except for when I was on low carbs (I'm not on a low carb diet)
Many valid arguments, but maybe we should start a new thread for conspiracy topics and stick to health/medical advice here~_^ that is a good idea btw epic video thing
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2014-01-20 17:15:14
Bahamut.Baconwrap said: »Bahamut.Baconwrap said: »That's not true different for all MDs with antibiotic treatment. The way an IDS will persribe is vastly different than a general practicioner. 1- I never said "all MD's".
2- IDS's represent a small percentage of MD's.
3- For cases like URTI, the majority of patients will be cared for by GP's anyways.
1. Internal Medicine/IDS is a fairly common residency program, it's not that small.
2. If one is concerned OCD about antibiotic resistance switch your primary care to an internist or IDS.
3. My primary care physician is an IDS and let me say getting him to prescribe me an antibiotic is like pulling teeth!
Anyways the MD bashing is a bit off-thread-topic I think lol. I agree it's off-topic lol. But just a question: Isn't ID a sub-specialty of internal medicine? Meaning that ID is a fellowship program for which to qualify you'd need to be an internist. Or can you start a residency in ID in the US? I'm not from the US so you probably know better.
EDIT: probably that's what you meant by "internal medicine/IDS", as in it's a route.
I know for an IDS an internal medicine residency is required beforehand. Internal medicine can be exclusive if that's what your asking?
Yeah I hashed them to indicate internal medicine can be exclusive. Residency programs aren'tmy specialty so if anyone wants to give more info feel free.
My IDS is so thorough, last time I had a lengthy flu and sore throat he refused to give me antibiotics until he ran a mononucleosis test and a flu test. 2 visits later finally gave me my zithromax.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2014-01-21 23:11:06
I was in a hurry tonight and wanted to squeeze my back workout in. I don't know if I stumbled into some training technique but it was a very awesome workout and I am going to work more days like this.
Instead of counting my normal sets I decided I'd just do the exercises for 10 minutes and see how many reps I get in of each. I didn't really have a plan how to break it up but the workout ended up being
Pullups: 62 in ten minutes
Bent Barbell Rows: 135 pounds 58 times in ten minutes.
Straight Barbell Curls: 85 pounds 29 reps in 5 minutes
Done.
(I don't dead lift anymore. I do squats on leg day. I also suffer from a condition called "old-guy back" and they flare up my SI joint)
I made the mistake of doing too many pullups my first set in the ten minutes and got myself a little to tired at the beginning.
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By Ragnarok.Beef 2014-01-29 19:05:12
i trained my grip for a couple years using Ironmind products and literally with just grip training, heavy weight for me before felt very light and seemed i had much more control of where i wanted the weight to go. You can't say that and not spill the beans! Which # did you close? ;) I can do 10 reps with my #1 but I can't close my #2 for the life of me. Need to pick up a 1.5. Ironmind stuff is awesome.
At my peak, I was closing the #3 12-14 times on my left hand and barely getting 10 out of my right (i'm left handed).
this may sound unbelievable to some, but I actually got the #4 down to within a quarter of an inch. Yes, in grippers terms, this is actually not very close to closing it at all lol, BUT if you ever squeeze a #4 I think you will see, its like squeezing a brick lol.
It was a gift and a curse now that look back it because, I injured myself by becoming obsessed with trying to close the #4 so I began training every day heavily and I started to get tennis elbow from it and my extensors started to ache. I think I tweaked something in my left forearm also, but after 2 yrs of rehab and extensor work my grip strength endeavors are beginning to look good again. Although I'm starting off training again very slowly and not trying to rush it.
Some may think it's the grippers, but it was in fact my own stupidity and eagerness to get on the #4 list that hurt myself, had I slowed down, not tried to crank out set after set every day and kept up with my extensor work I wouldn't have caused such a severe muscle imbalance.
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By Valefor.Endoq 2014-02-06 18:08:47
My friend with multiple sclerosis just got back from her doctor and they are giving her a death sentence saying nothing else can be done except to take pain meds and wait for death... Does anyone know of something that can help? These doctors said there is nothing to be done. I won't accept this. How can they just give up and tell her to wait for death? I know there must be other treatments, but they just aren't accepted by the medical community in the US, and their narrow view of what they consider medicine and not, simply because they didn't equate it on paper with human statistics yet. So they stay close minded and instead of seeking help outside of their own group of comrades, they rather send my friend to her death and stay as the only ones to peddle their drugs to my dying friend...
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By Shiva.Onorgul 2014-02-06 18:16:11
She could rub a rabbit's foot on a piece of the True Cross.
If you're genuinely interested in helping your friend, research the top specialists and specialized institutions for MS. But be aware that the assessment may be accurate. MS is not curable and does kill everyone who develops it. Embracing lunatic cures and fringe medicine are the worst kind of hokum. You'd do far better finding a qualified grief counselor (for instance, many clergymen).
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By Valefor.Endoq 2014-02-06 18:45:30
She could rub a rabbit's foot on a piece of the True Cross.
If you're genuinely interested in helping your friend, research the top specialists and specialized institutions for MS. But be aware that the assessment may be accurate. MS is not curable and does kill everyone who develops it. Embracing lunatic cures and fringe medicine are the worst kind of hokum. You'd do far better finding a qualified grief counselor (for instance, many clergymen).
This is my point already. Those people said she can't be helped. But these specialist are all under the same organisation and even though they ran out of ideas they refuse to ask for outside opinions, for example herbal medicines etc...
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By Shiva.Onorgul 2014-02-06 19:20:03
I hate to employ a cliché, but opinions are like ***, Endoq.
The premise of herbal medicines is literally identical to that of modern medicines. Willow bark or aspirin, the difference is merely in methodology and purity, but the idea is the same: find a unique chemical that interacts with a bodily system in a reliable way and employ it. Almost every plant on the planet has been or is in the process of being tested for its medical potential. As soon as someone figures out what chemical in maca increases spermatozoa health, you can bet that a drug company will find a way to market the hell out of it (above and beyond the marketing of maca that has been ongoing for about 15 years now).
The overwhelming majority of alternative medicine techniques are neutral or detrimental. Virtually all positive effect is placebo. Actually, I'm slightly overstating my case because a lot of things that are considered alternative medicine (e.g., deep tissue massage/manipulation or medical chiropracty) have become so accepted by the modern medical community that people forget they're technically alternative. Nonsense like homeopathy, TT, or the majority of acupuncture treatments are just bad.
If your friend has consulted with specialists and have said there is nothing to do but ease the pain and make her last days as comfortable as possible, that's really all there is to it. Her body might rally and defy expectations. It happens with some frequency and most of the time cannot be explained beyond, "Human bodies do things like that," but what has been demonstrated is that no amount of alternative medical treatment or lack thereof has any correlation with people who live longer than expected. Multiple sclerosis isn't like cancer or a chronic disease, though, and I'd be a liar if I suggested that she'll live for years beyond her doctors' prognoses. She might get a few months, especially if she doesn't stress herself, which is why I recommend a grief or end-of-life counselor. Yes, it's morbid, but it is also realistic and gives the sort of stress relief and calm that makes someone's last weeks easier.
Everyone dies. I'm sorry.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2014-02-06 19:32:19
I feel for ya. I really do but your making the fitness thread a sad place. This is not where you will find the answers you seek.
71 pullups in 10 minutes today. Long term goal is 100. It may be impossible for me but I'll achieve excellence going for it.
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2014-02-06 19:37:29
Nice man! If your grip is getting tired use straps.
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By Valefor.Endoq 2014-02-06 20:40:34
Even if it's only considered a placebo she still needs hope, staying positive has a huge effect on how the body can heal. She is only in her early 20s with so much to live for, and is one of the few genuinely kind and honest people I have met. I didn't know where else to turn to and was hoping someone here would have something helpful other than saying let doctors handle it. She has the "best" in the country working on her. I hope no one here has lost a loved one to multiple sclerosis or is suffering with it them self, but if there was anyone that has experience with this I was hoping to get some advice from them, I don't want to dredge up anything painful but if it can help someone to survive this then I will ask anyways...
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2014-02-06 22:44:15
Well if god wants her to die, who are you to stand in the way of her divine plan?
By Walsh 2014-02-06 23:53:28
Endoq, there are plenty of stories of people beating MS. Perhaps you could contact Dr. Terry Wahls. She has a TED talk about how she beat her MS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLjgBLwH3Wc#t=45
For the time being, you could look into low dose Naltrexone, which you can read about here and here
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By Valefor.Endoq 2014-02-07 00:31:43
This thread is basically for discussing workouts and dietary intake for people who are trying to or looking to getting into better shape or eating healthier in general.
Any and all questions regarding either of the two can be asked and hopefully answered here as well.
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