Fitness And Nutrition General

Honestly never experienced ED problems while on Eph, or any sides other than insomnia for that matter. Some people just can't tolerate it at all though, had a friend who took one dose of EC for the first time before a class and he completely lost his ***... Kinda funny to watch.

One thing I do recommend for ephedrine dosing if anyone else is planning on taking it is constantly check your heart rate. Ephedrine with any type of HIIT cardio can be extremely dangerous for some people.

I'm kinda being a hypocrite here but an MMO forum is probably the WORST place you guys should be looking for fitness advice. Check out other forums/articles on sites like t-nation.com and bodybuilding.com. There are a handful of people here who actually know their ***, and plenty of others that I have to ask do u even lift?

@ sag

im using some bro science .. at best

what im saying is how do you look to yourself....if you are getting bigger muscle size and losing jean size - there is a very good chance you are heading in the right direction.... nothing more nothing less

Also i didn't say do anything with your tendons - i said I AM doing more tendon specific stuff (think more yoga like than lifting) and in fact you are more than likely to do less injury with this than any weight lifting and build freakish power without destroying your body later on in life (but you are right people should learn these under guidance)

I wouldn't use BB.com - too much "bro-ology" there. There is a lot of good stuff, but just as much bad stuff and it's hard to tell especially for a beginner. anabolicminds.com is probably better overall.

In fact reading all this I have nothing constructive to add to this but you would be surprised how many male FFXI players actually wonder and ask about this stuff. Kind of fits the ego of it all.

If you want to get fit, Join the army.

Simples.

too lazy to watch, can you give me a tldr? haha

Well the Army is not for everyone, lol. Try differnt things and see what works best for you.

I came across these and thought they were decent for quick sessions :)

Doesn't seem too beginner friendly; unless you cheat your push ups.

30 legit push ups aren't an easy feat. (2-3 second push up, slow up/down). If you're doing the speed ***that doesn't benefit you half as much, then yea, can fly through them

yes if you can do 30 LEGIT push ups you aint a beginner XD

and yes time under tension will always work better unless you are doing very specific force training and focusing on Acceleration (as an example).

I remember really struggling a year ago with decent push ups and now ...man i love push ups ... they are sooo under rated / appreciated by way to many guys, and there are so many ways to work with different push ups.

PS: i have many different things that inspire me or keep me motivated to stay working hard for myself in the gym or with other exercise and my diet
i recently discovered this crazy 17 yr old girl on u tube ...got my arse in the gym 5 times THAT week ! but in all honestly i was like wtf women's strong @@

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO_jfEk-adw

Nice tiger, didnt see this thread til now. Anyone have any experience with working around a previously ruptured bursa sac above the shoulder socket joint?

Please specify where it is exactly.

I mainly incorporate them in my cardio rather than my gym days, but I get them in.

I run an obstacle course 3 nights a week, 2 push up stations per lap, 20 push ups at each, and 3 laps.

However, of the underestimated workouts, pull ups are my favorite and my second fav exercise period, after squats.

I'd honestly recommend talking to your doctor before getting on any routine post-injury

pushups and dips ! the end! im a monster with both of those (o and i can also do hand stand push ups now)

dont help my pull ups (not chin ups) are..... crap lol ;; but i am trying to work more on them now ><

Dips/Pull ups are done both in the gym and during my cardio.

4 pull up stations and 2 dip stations(parallel bars, bunny hop across them vs walking; then do dips at the end) at my obstacle course

Then I do them both weighted in the gym

and @ Washburn like Tiger said man - even though im sure many of us would try and give you some advice you shouldn't listen - unless its "go seek some real specialist advice" and always remember to listen to and respect your own body when training.

there is a reason most of the worlds military use lots of dips,push up pull ups!

i have also noticed more development from doing my dips in some areas like upper chest - that i couldn't get from lets say a bench press (Ive not tried inclined if that's any better)

i norm manage around 4 sets of 15 dips - nice and slow feel that fking burn lol

on another note im really keen to try some kettle bell training / instruction atm - anyone else do it?

I got the idea from this woman's IG.
If you are fit, it could be worthwhile.
I don't think it is ever said that is fast or for beginners but an easy way to get in a session if you only have a short amount of time. I like the idea behind the UCML the most even if I am not up to 30 push ups yet :)

My primary care physician said if it hurts, dont lift. But all i got out of it was that basically if the muscle surrounding the socket joint is weak, itll put more strain on it, and will hurt more when working out. A buddy of mine played AAA ball for the Orials and he showed me some stretches and light workouts to gradually strengthen everything.

The shitkicker is, te way i sleep (lateral recumbant) my arm always goes under my pillow... Ive tried everything i can think of to stop from sleeping like that, because the weight of my gourd puts pressure on the shoulder socket joint.

Prior to the injury i was jogging 3 miles followed by a full gym routine including pullups, bench, curls, legs, rows, etc etc. for months after the injury, i couldnt even jog. The natural motion of my arm was making it hurt like hell.


Fast forwarding a year, back in december i basically threw out everything in my room and turned it into a mini gym to motivate myself to work the shoulder, and as of yesterday, im back up to 225 @ 10 reps on bench, i only have a set of 35 dumbells, but i use those for arnolds, curls, inclined/declined fies, and pretty much anything else i can think of to work the shoulder.

Its definitely huge versus where i was when i started, but theres this brick wall and im afraid to get close to it and reinjure myself.

This is what ruptured. I did it doing a one manned ladder throw, someone yelled right as i threw my weight into the throw.. it drew my attention away and my elbow moved away from my body as i threw, putting all the strain right on that sac. When it ruptured it made a loud pop, like someone popping a balloon.

It's better to fix it at a physiotherapy in which will require you to take it slow for a few months until it heals the right way so then you can train properly. Mean while, I don't advice you to train anything crazy or resistance for you upper body since it requires your shoulders to work and that will just make it worse.

right, i understand, the injury was over a year ago, i already did the whole alternating hot/cold, with anti-inflammatories while keeping it still.

I stretched slowly/slightly, with no resistance for weeks, before i added a 5 lb weight. I believe it's 95% healed, but reinjury is what i'm trying to prevent.

In the long run, it's one of those things that just flare up from time to time. I would like to say slowly working your way back up to where it was before, but that will just strengthen the tendons, muscles, etc. It may help indirectly, but at the end of the day it will be a chronic condition unless you simply give up all movement of the joint. Or you could be lucky and never have it flare up again, but that is uncommon.

Slugman pretty much summed it up. I have quite a few friends who have injured their shoulder for various reasons: dislocation, bursa, tendon etc...

A combination of modified exercises (e.g. my friend when doing bench presses wont take the bar as close to his chest), cortisone injections, NSAIDs, fish oil(natural anti-inflammatory), and of-course making sure you are following up with your surgeon/physician.

Even cortisone is more of a help with a muscle is injured. My ortho decided against it for my 2 broken vertebrae, saying it likely wouldnt help. Stop all activity if it flares up, stick on nsaids, vitamin D, MSM and Glucosamine and Chondroitin may help, but mostly for tendons/ligaments. hyularnoic acid, and another popular joint compound out now is cissus.

You really should consider adding incline press to your chest day. Try to hit the chest muscles from different angles/sides if you want the best development. Flat press, incline press, weighted dips, and flies should be the main part of everyone's chest routine. Hit the top, middle, and lower parts of your chest as well as the outter chest with flies. I work inner chest on arms day actually cause I have nothing left in the tank on chest day, so 2 of my tricep exercises on Friday are close-grip presses and triangle pushups. My chest and arms days are 3-4 days apart so I have enough time to recover by then.

For kettlebell training I would recommend looking into Pavel Tsatsouline, he's very knowledgeable on that ***. Writes a lot of Russian military style training books, and kettlebells are a huge part of their routines. You can find most of his ebooks on torrent sites if you use those.

Hate to burst your bubble there, but there is no "inner" chest or "outer" chest. The pecs stretch laterally across the chest. You can focus on upper and lower, incline, flat, decline, flies, cable crossovers. When you feel like you are working "inner" chest or "outer" chest you are just probably getting a better stretch on that particular exercise, for either the upper or lower portion of the chest.

arr now that's interesting coincidence about the kettlebell stuff - and i actually do a RMA myself lol, but yeh i seen some people in the gym doing it and it looks tough xD

You are right in that sense, but I personally find the squeeze and contraction I focus on with "inner chest" exercises give a much greater pump on the inside of the chest. Could be mind over matter, but seems to work for me even if the benefit is just for the former.

I know what you mean, for example on flat bench, when you rotate the arms inward at the apex of the lift, it "feels" like it squeezes the inside of the chest, you are really just getting a better squeeze on your mid-lower chest.

Think of it as cables going across your chest from shoulder to nipple, as you lift, the cables contract from the ends. When you add in that extra movement, you get more a tightening on the ends, feeling like its working the "inner" chest.