Does TH Stick To A Mob If You Hit It With A RA?

I heard you have to hit the mob period for your th-whateverlevel to stick to it, so does that mean if i..crossbow cuelbre it'll stick to him?

You need to be on its hate last iirc, so anything that gets you any sort of hate, be it a cure, hitting it, etc

So thf/whm --> curing the other members fighting the dragon will land th on him? woot! thanks!

Hate is what I've always known as well..

A self heal alone won't generate hate on a non-ally hate mob. You need to perform some sort of action on someone who is on the hate list first.

Also, you likely need to be in the alliance with claim.

And hell yeah wolfshadow

cant melee this *** though, at least, wiki says you cant (unless war + mighty strikes)

but yeah, people keep telling me that when i go thf for other mobs..

always melee if you can, but for cueloobroop just do anything to get hate, steal might work even if it whiffs, collaborator, conspirator, etc etc lots of ways

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AFAIK all actions whether successful or not generate at least one CE. A paralyzed swing at a mob is enough to claim it so.. You could always test it if you wanted to be 10000% sure

He can be hit for the 30 secs his own mighty strikes are up, hence you can land normal meele hit as THF/NIN or /DNC during this period, this is also the only time during which !! blue and red can be triggered.

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There's an easy way to test this if you're not 100% sure. Find a mob that can last for more than a few hits, and perform the action in question on it while wearing full TH gear. Then melee without TH gear (SA/TA if you have a friend with you) until you get a +TH proc and see if said action works to "set" your TH.

Also, I might be misunderstanding your interpretation of wiki, but you can melee Cuelebre when IT is using Mighty Strikes. You yourself don't have to be a WAR using Mighty Strikes to melee it.

No but I WAS making clear that a THF/WHM inside alliance curing can cure themselves over 9000 hp, if they haven't actually done an action on the mob, or an action on a person who has done an action on the mob they haven't gotten hate. Which is in line with the original intent of the thread. Your explanation was slightly ambiguous, and some people many not be 100% up on how hate works.

Real example i've experienced: THF/WHM in og fafnir party, doesn't claim but in claim alliance, spends entire fight curing themselves against wing. Fafnir never gets th on it.

Practical application now: A thf/whm mule used only to get th on a mob then ignored.

hmmm i'm sure i've seen a test somewhere that proved the old theory that it actually need both an action and being on hate list for th to be active. So, only curing a party member with hate is not enough to set th. You need some direct aggressive action on the target so th is applied.

Edit: Oh and by aggressive action i don't mean something that damages the target. Aggressive action is anything that can turn an idle mob's name red.

Yeah just wait til cuelebre uses it's mighty strikes and you can go in and melee on any job just be ready to take a bit of damage...

Solo him all the time on SMN, almost always drops dagger w/o blue !!