Rudra ODD Builds?

Here's a ODD setup I was intending to play around with in abyssea. Just need the gloves.
The concept is to have +26% Haste (without the use of twilight), plus an additional +5 Dualwield that I wouldn't normally have.
There are certainly some trade-off's on the stats, but I would wonder how well the ODD would perform.
If anything, it would be fun to Rapidus/Sirocco in...

Anyway, please post your ODD ideas!

You've overkilled your haste there by about 7%.

Zelus 8%, Twilight 7%, Raider's Vest 5%, Dusk 4%, Raider's Legs 5%, Homam 3%, Rapidus Sax, which adds up to 33% Haste. Drop the head and use Raider's Bonnet +2, drop the hands for Raider's Armlets +2, and drop Rapidus for a STR Kila+2, you'll have 4/5 AF3+2 bonus and capped haste, as well as an extremely more potent off hand dagger.

The neck and ring are fine I guess, although the ring seems overkill for the price tag.

he's not using twilight

Oh! Well pardon me. >_>

I'd still however recommend the above build.

I think he's trying to maximize tp gain/attack speed. Hence the whole point of using a DW belt and low delay offhand dagger. Which arguably will do more than your build.

Even doing a normal haste build I'd rather use triples. Well twlight if tanking

It really all falls down to the % of Nusku's sash's dual wield I guess, but I wouldn't sacrifice 3% TA (Raider's Bonnet) for anything less than 3% dual wield.

if he did that he wouldn't be capping haste.
that lack of the twilight belt IS the "7% overkill"
although personally i'd probably use a twilight belt and replace some of that stuff with more DA or TA. although other than homam body idk really what's available for THF

Granted, I meant Twilight belt included. It's late, apologies.

Anyways some pointers for a build like this.

The mars ring isn't that useful to tp in. I'd use a subtle blow or store tp in that slot.

Also you could get acp body with dw and like subtleblow/store tp on it and use atma of the omnipotent

Oh this is a nice set. I completely forgot about Nusku's sash. Put that rajas like Dasva proposed and you are set. You could also swap agasaya's and dusk+1 for tiercel and dusk nq and stay "cheap". Or you could use while you are after dusk+1.

Anyway, this set is probably only useful against fodder mobs/low level nms. Raider's head and hands provide a huge boost to acc that will be put to use against high tier nms. Mars alone can't counter that loss. Actually by using 4/5 af + homam feet + rapidus + mars i doubt we would have capped acc against the hardest of the nms. Well, i'm just conjecturing based on my nin using little acc equipment against Orthrus (only parse on "hard" nm that i do have lol) and having 67% hit rate. This means that my thf needs 60 acc over my nin to be capped. Although it would be close to that amount with all those items, it's really not there yet.

So yeah, if acc is not a issue, i think this set (with rajas) has the best dps a thf could get. Other combos that keep high haste while still using nusku's would be something to check out too.

edit: oh yeah. Dasva added something that i forgot to comment about too and it's very interesting.

Using atma of the omnipotent.

With this babe you could ditch af body for dw mirke and dusk for af hands. It sounds really cool i'll tell you that lol. Would need some mathing to check for good~, but i really like the innovation.

So, yeah.. I've never given any thought to Atma of the Omnipotent.
I have it too! Just need to do my homework better I guess, and stop using VV.
So with the 10% haste from Atma in mind, I'd probably go this route;

+16% Haste (26% with Atma)
+16% Dual Wield (41% with /nin)
+6% TA (16% with Merits)
+11% DA
+10% STP
+36 Att
+42 Acc
+15 Str
+22 Dex
Mirke Wardecors would give the additional 3% Dual Wield & 4% STP.

VV is a poor choice for thf anyways. Well really for most 1hders and even often rngs. But thf more than most since DA does alot less when you triple attack alot lol.

Omnipotent is particularlly good for dagger and swd users because you get to use the haste and the dex. So taking something like TA atma out doesn't really hurt since you get to gear in more DW/TA/DA/stp into your gear to keep your frequency up and get massive dex boost to make up for the ws dmg.

Not to mention running around with a good +130-170 dex naked does wonderful things to your acc allowing more of stuff to help your ws frequency and allow you to pretty much always be able to use att food.

So, I ran the numbers through my Damage Comparator,
And interestingly enough it suggests that this set will outperform (Vest+2/Twilight/Agasaya).
Assuming there is no Atmas/Food involved and Accuracy is not an issue.
I will have to Parse this first, before confirming anything.

Nifty program... wehre you get it?

FFXI Melee Damage Comparator v5.0.1 Beta.xls

This is an Microsoft Excel file, that someone has taken the time to throw together.
It's somewhat outdated, with the new level caps and addition of new equipment.
But you can manually adjust your Stats to match your current level, and simply add any missing equipment.

Does setup 2 have the 10% Haste from Omnipotence factored in? I'm looking but I don't see it visible.

Setup 1 has 26% Haste. (Hardcap 25%)
Setup 2 has 16% Haste.

I glossed over the atma part.

It's interesting how ~10% Haste is equivocal to 8% Dual Wield in that scenario.

over a certain % dual wield gives more speed than haste, which is primarily why i never understood the bashing that nusku gets which is 5% dual wield.

Swapping out STP/SB for DA+2 on Mirke Wardecors would also improve the DPS even further.
Adding 0.32% more damage to the final simulated comparison.

It's not a certain % DW. It's certain amounts compared to how much haste you have. Basically if you are comparing same amount of DW and haste whichever you already have more of will be the better one to add more of.

Usually especially if not dnc or nin that's haste unless soloing since you can get so external haste but not DW and usually get more haste in gear to make up for the native bonus