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The Moon Goes Super Saiyan
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By Odin.Suotuo 2011-03-11 01:40:24
I guess there will be some HQ'ing in real life
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2011-03-11 01:42:01
Everyone in the pacific be safe. Bed time for me.
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By Leviathan.Duriel 2011-03-11 01:43:09
Fenrir.Skarwind said: Earthquake just happened in Japan! Dun dun dun
Not just Japan, 3 major Sceismic(sp) events occured on the three major fault lines of the Ring of Fire, New Zealand/Japan/Hawaii
Obviously Japan and New Zealand had pretty gnarly earthquakes and Hawaii had a big volcano go boom. Some theorize that the ring of Fire is starting to make it's big entry.
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By Leviathan.Duriel 2011-03-11 01:44:19
And this was also the first thing that popped into my mind when reading this thread,
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2011-03-11 02:22:44
One thing I want to point out, is when scientists say "Expect a massive quake within the next (timeframe)" and is totally right, nobody seems to check that off, but when one of the hundred thousand whackjobs that ***out predictions for vague events on every calender day, scores a hit through shotgun technique, everyone gets all butthurt with apocalypse talk.
Seriously, the Ring of Fire being an Active geological timebomb has been well documented.
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By Ragnarok.Nekonarf 2011-03-11 02:46:38
Isn't this the day that the christian group ran around saying Jesus was going to come back and kill us or something?
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By Sylph.Zenairis 2011-03-11 03:50:26
It's not just there either we recently had a earthquake here in AR around the scale of 4.3~4.7 somewhere around there (in the central U.S area). Also a volcano recently erupted in Hawaii as well all within the last few weeks from what I've heard.
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By Leviathan.Duriel 2011-03-11 11:28:34
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By Asura.Baroma 2011-03-11 21:27:31
Well, i guess i should weigh in on this, being that I gave the idea to acccuweather.com to write the the blog about it. (which amazingly took off to mainstream) http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/astronomy/story/46417/extreme-super-full-moon-to-cause-chaos.asp The Super Moon itself isnt the main kicker to my research, it just happened to be a part of the bigger picture. I took the top 15 earthquakes on the usgs.gov site, and check out the lunar perigee and phase. It turned out that 11 of the 15 happened within 3 days of Full/New moon phase and 3 of which were "super".
To go a step further, Jan 12th 2010 Haiti quake, New moon Jan 15th. (within my 3 day window)
Feb 27th 2010 Chile 8.8M Perigee Feb 27th, Full moon 28th.
This is just a small sample of what I found to be true on most occasions. of course its not 100% accurate, just like forecasting weather. Saying that an event will happen on a super moon date to be relavent without a grace period, is ludicrous. Do the research yourselves, and see what you get.
This quake, personally isnt related to the super moon of this month. Theres plausible evidence that the solar activity on march 7 (several Mclass flares and 1 Xclass flare) was the trigger for this one. http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2007AGUSMIN33A..03J
Dont be paranoid but dont be complacent either.
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http://www.space.com/11084-supermoon-earthquake-storm-natural-disasters.html
Quote: On March 19, the moon will swing around Earth more closely than it has in the past 18 years, lighting up the night sky from just 221,567 miles (356,577 kilometers) away. On top of that, it will be full. And one astrologer believes it could inflict massive damage on the planet.
Richard Nolle, a noted astrologer who runs the website astropro.com, has famously termed the upcoming full moon at lunar perigee (the closest approach during its orbit) an "extreme supermoon."
When the moon goes super-extreme, Nolle says, chaos will ensue: Huge storms, earthquakes, volcanoes and other natural disasters can be expected to wreak havoc on Earth. (It should be noted that astrology is not a real science, but merely makes connections between astronomical and mystical events.)
But do we really need to start stocking survival shelters in preparation for the supermoon? [Photos: Our Changing Moon]
The question is not actually so crazy. In fact scientists have studied related scenarios for decades. Even under normal conditions, the moon is close enough to Earth to make its weighty presence felt: It causes the ebb and flow of the ocean tides.
The moon's gravity can even cause small but measureable ebbs and flows in the continents, called "land tides" or "solid Earth tides," too. The tides are greatest during full and new moons, when the sun and moon are aligned either on the same or opposite sides of the Earth.
According to John Vidale, a seismologist at the University of Washington in Seattle and director of the Pacific Northwest Seismic Network, particularly dramatic land and ocean tides do trigger earthquakes. "Both the moon and sun do stress the Earth a tiny bit, and when we look hard we can see a very small increase in tectonic activity when they're aligned," Vidale told Life's Little Mysteries, a sister site to SPACE.com.
At times of full and new moons, "you see a less-than-1-percent increase in earthquake activity, and a slightly higher response in volcanoes."
The effect of tides on seismic activity is greatest in subduction zones such as the Pacific Northwest, where one tectonic plate is sliding under another. William Wilcock, another seismologist at the University of Washington, explained: "When you have a low tide, there's less water, so the pressure on the seafloor is smaller. That pressure is clamping the fault together, so when it's not there, it makes it easier for the fault to slip."
According to Wilcock, earthquake activity in subduction zones at low tides is 10 percent higher than at other times of the day, but he hasn't observed any correlations between earthquake activity and especially low tides at new and full moons. Vidale has observed only a very small correlation.
What about during a lunar perigee? Can we expect more earthquakes and volcanic eruptions on March 19, when the full moon will be so close?
The moon's gravitational pull at lunarperigee, the scientists say, is not different enough from its pull at other times to significantly change the height of the tides and thus the likelihood of natural disasters. [Infographic: Phases of the Moon Explained]
"A lot of studies have been done on this kind of thing by USGS scientists and others," John Bellini, a geophysicist at the U.S. Geological Survey, told Life's Little Mysteries. "They haven't found anything significant at all."
Vidale concurred. "Practically speaking, you'll never see any effect of lunar perigee," he said. "It's somewhere between 'It has no effect' and 'It's so small you don't see any effect.'"
The bottom line is, the upcoming supermoon won't cause a preponderance of earthquakes, although the idea isn't a crazy one.
"Earthquakes don't respond as much to the tides as you'd think they would. There should actually be more of an effect," said Vidale.
Most natural disasters have nothing to do with the moon at all. The Earth has a lot of pent up energy, and it releases it anytime the buildup gets too great. The supermoon probably won't push it past the tipping point, but we'll know for sure, one way or the other, by March 20.
This story was provided by Life's Little Mysteries, a sister site of SPACE.com.
Follow Natalie Wolchover on Twitter @nattyover
Kinda wonder if we'll get some of those oh so rare earthquakes I feel here near Chicago from time to time.
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