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 Bahamut.Dasva
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-02-27 17:11:05
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Leviathan.Draylo said:
So is PDT gear.
Sure you only die half as fast instead of taking damn near no dmg. Not really comparable
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By Serj 2011-02-27 17:12:37
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Bahamut.Dasva said:
Leviathan.Draylo said:
So is PDT gear.
Sure you only die half as fast instead of taking damn near no dmg. Not really comparable

Sentinel with PDT!!!!! You take half of nearly nothing!
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By Asura.Echandra 2011-02-27 17:13:54
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I love all this overthinking and justifying my point of view is right stuff.

But I feel like it just cheapens my normal strat to just hit a mob until it dies. I just hope that post 90, this will still be a viable strategy.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-02-27 17:14:22
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Seriously people. Go look up the enmity generation from blu spells. They can get almost 2/5th capped CE/VE in 1 spell. That's base enmity. Throw sentinel up and they are almost instantly capped (lol /pld).
The new buffs kinda do rediculous amounts too... not much testing has been done post lvl 80 though I think
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-02-27 17:15:20
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Serj said:
Seriously people. Go look up the enmity generation from blu spells. They can get almost 2/5th capped CE/VE in 1 spell. That's base enmity. Throw sentinel up and they are almost instantly capped (lol /pld).

I've argued this plenty of times. BLU will always be underrated and not paid attention to sadly. It was at 75 and now with the huge bandwagon and gimps it is now lol.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-02-27 17:15:45
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Cure cheats are getting worse by the lvl... unless you have a low lvl mule to cure than they aren't getting worse and are actually kinda awesome
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2011-02-27 17:15:53
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-02-27 17:16:36
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Bahamut.Dasva said:
Leviathan.Draylo said:
So is PDT gear.
Sure you only die half as fast instead of taking damn near no dmg. Not really comparable

Why would you die unless you aren't getting cured? Saying sentienl made pld useful for HF mobs is silly.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-02-27 17:18:58
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Leviathan.Draylo said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Leviathan.Draylo said:
So is PDT gear.
Sure you only die half as fast instead of taking damn near no dmg. Not really comparable
Why would you die unless you aren't getting cured? Saying sentienl made pld useful for HF mobs is silly.
Taking dmg too fast especially if hate shifted and by the time the healer switches to you and actually gets the cure off you are down to almost dead by the time the next cure gets off you are dead?

Comparing 50% dmg reduction to 75-100% reduction is even sillier.
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By Serj 2011-02-27 17:19:22
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Kaeko stopped updating his enmity tables 80+ T_T Did he quit?



Leviathan.Draylo said:
Serj said:
Seriously people. Go look up the enmity generation from blu spells. They can get almost 2/5th capped CE/VE in 1 spell. That's base enmity. Throw sentinel up and they are almost instantly capped (lol /pld).

I've argued this plenty of times. BLU will always be underrated and not paid attention to sadly. It was at 75 and now with the huge bandwagon and gimps it is now lol.

At 75, the only tanked I ever relied on was a blu. I'm forever a lover.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-02-27 17:21:15
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Bahamut.Dasva said:
Leviathan.Draylo said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Leviathan.Draylo said:
So is PDT gear.
Sure you only die half as fast instead of taking damn near no dmg. Not really comparable
Why would you die unless you aren't getting cured? Saying sentienl made pld useful for HF mobs is silly.
Taking dmg too fast especially if hate shifted and by the time the healer switches to you and actually gets the cure off you are down to almost dead by the time the next cure gets off you are dead?

Comparing 50% dmg reduction to 75-100% reduction is even sillier.

Not when you were using it as an example for PLD being useful for something...
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-02-27 17:30:34
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Leviathan.Draylo said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Leviathan.Draylo said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Leviathan.Draylo said:
So is PDT gear.
Sure you only die half as fast instead of taking damn near no dmg. Not really comparable
Why would you die unless you aren't getting cured? Saying sentienl made pld useful for HF mobs is silly.
Taking dmg too fast especially if hate shifted and by the time the healer switches to you and actually gets the cure off you are down to almost dead by the time the next cure gets off you are dead?

Comparing 50% dmg reduction to 75-100% reduction is even sillier.
Not when you were using it as an example for PLD being useful for something...
Sure it is. Dead is still dead and not dead is still not dead.
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By Asura.Matzilla 2011-02-27 17:34:37
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Bahamut.Dasva said:
Cure cheats are getting worse by the lvl... unless you have a low lvl mule to cure than they aren't getting worse and are actually kinda awesome

somethingsomething almace something flash something whocares if its hitting another dd capable of tanking

something something ffxi doesnt take an optimal group so if you have fun playing X job go for it something
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By Serj 2011-02-27 17:37:44
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Asura.Matzilla said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Cure cheats are getting worse by the lvl... unless you have a low lvl mule to cure than they aren't getting worse and are actually kinda awesome

somethingsomething almace something flash something whocares if its hitting another dd capable of tanking

something something ffxi doesnt take an optimal group so if you have fun playing X job go for it something

***, I entirely agree with you. How the *** did this happen?
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-02-27 17:38:10
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Bahamut.Dasva said:
Leviathan.Draylo said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Leviathan.Draylo said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Leviathan.Draylo said:
So is PDT gear.
Sure you only die half as fast instead of taking damn near no dmg. Not really comparable
Why would you die unless you aren't getting cured? Saying sentienl made pld useful for HF mobs is silly.
Taking dmg too fast especially if hate shifted and by the time the healer switches to you and actually gets the cure off you are down to almost dead by the time the next cure gets off you are dead?

Comparing 50% dmg reduction to 75-100% reduction is even sillier.
Not when you were using it as an example for PLD being useful for something...
Sure it is. Dead is still dead and not dead is still not dead.

Not with a pdt build or if you are a BLU, flash!
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-02-27 17:38:22
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Or heaven forbid someones stuns it.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-02-27 17:41:14
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Leviathan.Draylo said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Leviathan.Draylo said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Leviathan.Draylo said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Leviathan.Draylo said:
So is PDT gear.
Sure you only die half as fast instead of taking damn near no dmg. Not really comparable
Why would you die unless you aren't getting cured? Saying sentienl made pld useful for HF mobs is silly.
Taking dmg too fast especially if hate shifted and by the time the healer switches to you and actually gets the cure off you are down to almost dead by the time the next cure gets off you are dead? Comparing 50% dmg reduction to 75-100% reduction is even sillier.
Not when you were using it as an example for PLD being useful for something...
Sure it is. Dead is still dead and not dead is still not dead.
Not with a pdt build or if you are a BLU, flash!
Sure if pdt might save you might not. Generally didn't save my ***.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2011-02-27 17:42:10
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Serj said:
Asura.Matzilla said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Cure cheats are getting worse by the lvl... unless you have a low lvl mule to cure than they aren't getting worse and are actually kinda awesome

somethingsomething almace something flash something whocares if its hitting another dd capable of tanking

something something ffxi doesnt take an optimal group so if you have fun playing X job go for it something

***, I entirely agree with you. How the *** did this happen?


A good point is a good point.
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By Serj 2011-02-27 17:43:50
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Odin.Zicdeh said:
Serj said:
Asura.Matzilla said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Cure cheats are getting worse by the lvl... unless you have a low lvl mule to cure than they aren't getting worse and are actually kinda awesome

somethingsomething almace something flash something whocares if its hitting another dd capable of tanking

something something ffxi doesnt take an optimal group so if you have fun playing X job go for it something

***, I entirely agree with you. How the *** did this happen?


A good point is a good point.

That's a good.... point...
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By Cerberus.Finalvegeta 2011-02-28 02:34:58
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@ The ppl who say Pld did so much less dmg than let's say Sam. I always use filter so I'm not too sure with this but didn't Sam damage suck on things like Fafnir,NH,Tiamat etc at 75? If it didn't suck the difference shouldn't be thaaat much then I think :x
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By Enygma3 2011-02-28 04:00:55
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hang in the towels, ffxi is dying, its over in the next year lol at least the good parts.
 
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trying too hard for sure
 
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-02-28 04:04:47
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Cerberus.Finalvegeta said:
@ The ppl who say Pld did so much less dmg than let's say Sam. I always use filter so I'm not too sure with this but didn't Sam damage suck on things like Fafnir,NH,Tiamat etc at 75? If it didn't suck the difference shouldn't be thaaat much then I think :x
 
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By Cerberus.Finalvegeta 2011-02-28 04:08:49
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Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
Cerberus.Finalvegeta said:
@ The ppl who say Pld did so much less dmg than let's say Sam. I always use filter so I'm not too sure with this but didn't Sam damage suck on things like Fafnir,NH,Tiamat etc at 75? If it didn't suck the difference shouldn't be thaaat much then I think :x

Stop being stupid.

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hang in the towels, ffxi is dying, its over in the next year lol at least the good parts.

So do you have an account that is not anon? For that matter do you have an account that is not a sock?

Lol. It was just a question. I remember Sams etc being weak as ***and only used for SCing so the BlMs can MB.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-02-28 04:09:49
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Like when? before the 2hand update, hasso/seigan, and group II merits were introduced?
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By Cerberus.Finalvegeta 2011-02-28 04:12:37
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Like when? before the 2hand update, hasso/seigan, and group II merits were introduced?
Nope after that. How much damage did your sams do on fafnir?
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-02-28 04:16:19
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Going off the top of my head, and it being a long time ago, I'd say at least 800-1k with DA ofc being more. Hell, even the ***sams were doing 600-700 on gekko on that thing.
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