Government Drops Defense Of Anti-gay-marriage Law

as long I can still make money and avoid paying taxes, I dont care what he does.


BTW, I would definitely vote for Santa Clause.

lmfao

See... Looking at what obama has done...how much worse could mccain and palin really have been? On the giant scale of *** up that obama has achieved, the worst they could have done is matched him.

marriage predates the bible, so *** the bible.

I am not an Obama supported but I would never believe Mccain + Palin would have been equal or better.

And I'm out.

Thanks to those who kept it interesting and cool until now =D

How much worse can you get? Name one good thing that obama has done. And by good, i mean good for at least 75% of the people it affects.

I find that Wombat already replied to this much more eloquently earlier in the conversation in regards to what the bible say.
In regards to what Jet says, might as well give up on him.
He can only hear his on voice when it comes to these things.


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...Starr just literally suggested that we turn this country (no, the whole world) into a Christian theocracy, and you want me to compromise with them or I'm a hypocrite? Le whut? How does that work and how on earth am I supposed to compromise with that? Where do you even begin?

No, the way you make people's lives better, here, is to utterly remove those like Starr from positions of power: you do not hold votes on this issue, you have the courts decide it. It's precisely beliefs like this, manifesting as votes, that keep gay people oppressed: Starr thinks God's word should inform our laws and that God's word condemns homosexuality as a sin; maybe we can compromise by agreeing to outlaw sodomy in one state but legalize gay marriage in another? Who knows, but let's get them at the table and start bargaining. Forget all that pesky Constitutional stuff like separation of church and state and all are equal before the law: what matters is that we compromise.

See... Looking at what obama has done...how much worse could mccain and palin really have been? On the giant scale of *** up that obama has achieved, the worst they could have done is matched him. [/quote]

No joke, for anyone who likes this guy, please tell me what he has done to better our country. I am dying to know.

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Not much into american policits but what do you think would the other 2 do different? Just curious

I personally believe sexual preference is just as it is...a preference.
I don't believe in genetically being homosexual or predestined love or any of that, weirdly that's the one thing I agree on with when it comes to conservatives.
It not being a genetic predisposition doesn't mean it's bad in the least though.
If any contrary claims may be said do say them, because I'm game for an actual discussion about it if someone else is.

apparently you are under the impression that the all the presidents actions must pop up and come into effect during his term for him to be able to be considered an effective president.

I'm biased and bigoted? For taking a bite out of the cookie?
I just wanted to know what you thought carbon dating proved in the bible and when anyone claimed that proof was false. I was sure I missed something.

"You sound like a babbling retard when you don't use any context."

Got rid of G.W. Bush

And just like that, you make yourself sound ignorant.

Ummmm....are you sure?

you know who during his term acted equally "ineffective and the was similarly a master of compromise"?
Ronald Reagan.

Americans have short attention spans so I doubt most people will even realize the extent Obama(or most presidents for that matter) effected this country. So you can prattle on about how much he did nothing.
Or you can actually check what he did pass through, rather than focusing on the political positioning topics.

Wait, I got this one. There's a perfect test you can do at home. Go look at some porn and see what gives you an erection. Is it the sexy ladies or the buff dudes?

Now change your preference and do the experiment again. Does your erection change?

I didnt say of the population, i said of the people it affects. Lets use the healthcare bill as an example. (these are made up numbers) If it helps 37% of the people it affects, but hurts 63%...how is that a good thing?