Im not an Atheist, Im a non-religious Catholic. I make fun of religious people al the time due to their sheeple-minded attitudes and their beliefs that if they leave their life in the hands of an imaginary being, they'll be able to inherit treasure or some ***like that.
how does that work?
is it the same as a non-practicing jew?
i've always been curious.
my take on it is that you still associate yourself with the belief but don't attend?
yes?
it's still a bit of a false-answer because it's not really fully expressing what you do believe, unless you'd rather just let your words illustrate your beliefs in a not so direct fashion. :P
Ive been baptised and all that hoopla, but Ive stopped going to church. i live my life along the knowledge of whats right and whats wrong. If that makes sense.
So by posting in this thread I am addressing every homosexual in the world? I don't think so. I am not judging anyone, I'm a sinner, EVERYONE is a sinner. I am saying that I don't think anyone should do anything sinful IN a religious place under the guidance of a religious representative, in the name of God (I really, really cannot understand what you are missing here, really).
I have never been calmer. They are not "my beliefs", please take all scriptures related to homosexuality and try and interpret them to make them sound like God does not mind it.
Stop shooting the messenger, seriously. So you're mad at religion and don't wanna follow God, so what, don't aim all your misconceptions and disagreements at me, I posted my opinion on the topic at hand, aimed at noone, which is exactly what discussion forums are for. I am not here to answer your every question.
Oh. Ok. I misunderstood. I thought these were your beliefs, not God's. You're just the messenger.
That makes my question the easiest of all: why should God's word have any say at all over our laws?
Because we owe everything to God, you wouldn't even be here to ask that question if it wasn't for him, that's just what people fail to appreciate.
Now I get it. Gay couples shouldn't be allowed to get married, even in their own churches, because the U.S. should be a Christian theocracy which operates according to your understanding (=God's understanding) of Christianity! And the reason for this is that God created us.
So by posting in this thread I am addressing every homosexual in the world? I don't think so. I am not judging anyone, I'm a sinner, EVERYONE is a sinner. I am saying that I don't think anyone should do anything sinful IN a religious place under the guidance of a religious representative, in the name of God (I really, really cannot understand what you are missing here, really).
I have never been calmer. They are not "my beliefs", please take all scriptures related to homosexuality and try and interpret them to make them sound like God does not mind it.
Stop shooting the messenger, seriously. So you're mad at religion and don't wanna follow God, so what, don't aim all your misconceptions and disagreements at me, I posted my opinion on the topic at hand, aimed at noone, which is exactly what discussion forums are for. I am not here to answer your every question.
Oh. Ok. I misunderstood. I thought these were your beliefs, not God's. You're just the messenger.
That makes my question the easiest of all: why should God's word have any say at all over our laws?
Because we owe everything to God, you wouldn't even be here to ask that question if it wasn't for him, that's just what people fail to appreciate.
Now I get it. Gay couples shouldn't be allowed to get married, even in their own churches, because the U.S. should be a Christian theocracy which operates according to your understanding (=God's understanding) of Christianity! And the reason for this is that God created us.
Yes, you're right, because those fragments were just found in back yard and assumed to be 6,000-12,000 years old. Aren't you brilliant at conveying that your opinion is informed and unbiased.
So by posting in this thread I am addressing every homosexual in the world? I don't think so. I am not judging anyone, I'm a sinner, EVERYONE is a sinner. I am saying that I don't think anyone should do anything sinful IN a religious place under the guidance of a religious representative, in the name of God (I really, really cannot understand what you are missing here, really).
I have never been calmer. They are not "my beliefs", please take all scriptures related to homosexuality and try and interpret them to make them sound like God does not mind it.
Stop shooting the messenger, seriously. So you're mad at religion and don't wanna follow God, so what, don't aim all your misconceptions and disagreements at me, I posted my opinion on the topic at hand, aimed at noone, which is exactly what discussion forums are for. I am not here to answer your every question.
Oh. Ok. I misunderstood. I thought these were your beliefs, not God's. You're just the messenger.
That makes my question the easiest of all: why should God's word have any say at all over our laws?
Because we owe everything to God, you wouldn't even be here to ask that question if it wasn't for him, that's just what people fail to appreciate.
Now I get it. Gay couples shouldn't be allowed to get married, even in their own churches, because the U.S. should be a Christian theocracy which operates according to your understanding (=God's understanding) of Christianity! And the reason for this is that God created us.
It's all suddenly so clear.
No, not the US, every living human should follow and love God with all their heart, soul, mind and body. I am glad that you finally, after repeating myself multiple times and simplifying it to the level a three year old could understand, understand the point I was making.
So by posting in this thread I am addressing every homosexual in the world? I don't think so. I am not judging anyone, I'm a sinner, EVERYONE is a sinner. I am saying that I don't think anyone should do anything sinful IN a religious place under the guidance of a religious representative, in the name of God (I really, really cannot understand what you are missing here, really).
I have never been calmer. They are not "my beliefs", please take all scriptures related to homosexuality and try and interpret them to make them sound like God does not mind it.
Stop shooting the messenger, seriously. So you're mad at religion and don't wanna follow God, so what, don't aim all your misconceptions and disagreements at me, I posted my opinion on the topic at hand, aimed at noone, which is exactly what discussion forums are for. I am not here to answer your every question.
Oh. Ok. I misunderstood. I thought these were your beliefs, not God's. You're just the messenger.
That makes my question the easiest of all: why should God's word have any say at all over our laws?
Because we owe everything to God, you wouldn't even be here to ask that question if it wasn't for him, that's just what people fail to appreciate.
Now I get it. Gay couples shouldn't be allowed to get married, even in their own churches, because the U.S. should be a Christian theocracy which operates according to your understanding (=God's understanding) of Christianity! And the reason for this is that God created us.
It's all suddenly so clear.
No, not the US, every living human should follow and love God with all their heart, soul, mind and body. I am glad that you finally, after repeating myself multiple times and simplifying it to the level a three year old could understand, understand the point I was making.
Every governing body on the planet should fashion its laws so that it becomes a Christian theocracy?
So by posting in this thread I am addressing every homosexual in the world? I don't think so. I am not judging anyone, I'm a sinner, EVERYONE is a sinner. I am saying that I don't think anyone should do anything sinful IN a religious place under the guidance of a religious representative, in the name of God (I really, really cannot understand what you are missing here, really).
I have never been calmer. They are not "my beliefs", please take all scriptures related to homosexuality and try and interpret them to make them sound like God does not mind it.
Stop shooting the messenger, seriously. So you're mad at religion and don't wanna follow God, so what, don't aim all your misconceptions and disagreements at me, I posted my opinion on the topic at hand, aimed at noone, which is exactly what discussion forums are for. I am not here to answer your every question.
Oh. Ok. I misunderstood. I thought these were your beliefs, not God's. You're just the messenger.
That makes my question the easiest of all: why should God's word have any say at all over our laws?
Because we owe everything to God, you wouldn't even be here to ask that question if it wasn't for him, that's just what people fail to appreciate.
Now I get it. Gay couples shouldn't be allowed to get married, even in their own churches, because the U.S. should be a Christian theocracy which operates according to your understanding (=God's understanding) of Christianity! And the reason for this is that God created us.
It's all suddenly so clear.
No, not the US, every living human should follow and love God with all their heart, soul, mind and body. I am glad that you finally, after repeating myself multiple times and simplifying it to the level a three year old could understand, understand the point I was making.
Every governing body on the planet should fashion its laws so that it becomes a Christian theocracy?
This is brilliant! Keep going.
I don't think there's any more I can say, PM me if you have any questions my friend.
Yes, you're right, because those fragments were just found in back yard and assumed to be 6,000-12,000 years old. Aren't you brilliant at conveying that your opinion is informed and unbiased.
Im just saying, people finding old ***under the earth and letting other humans to approximate the age of said object. Im just saying it is easy for any ole turdface to find old chicken bones and claim its from the BC era.
So you'll use carbon dating to claim that dinosaurs exists (and contradict the Bible) then when it is used to validate the historicity of the Bible you will claim it's false? You are so smart, why didn't I think of that?
Well, at least he believes the earth is older than 5,000 years.
How do you know that the world wasn't created by a High School girl under 10 years ago and these history and our memories are just made up memories due to this?
Well, at least he believes the earth is older than 5,000 years.
How do you know that the world wasn't created by a High School girl under 10 years ago and these history and our memories are just made up memories due to this?
/shoos kaly back to ni since he appears to be lost
go play pokemon, shoo shoo.
I don't think there's any more I can say, PM me if you have any questions my friend.
No that's OK, you've served as a wonderful example here as to exactly why this issue should not be decided by majority vote, but instead come down to the courts. Apparently you not only believe that gay marriage is a sacrilege on par with having sex in church, you think that, in order to accommodate this belief, our very system of government should be thrown out in favor of something closer to that of Iran.
So you'll use carbon dating to claim that dinosaurs exists (and contradict the Bible) then when it is used to validate the historicity of the Bible you will claim it's false? You are so smart, why didn't I think of that?
I think believing that dinosaurs existed 65 million years ago, the big bang theory, and evolution is far better than believing in some made-up guy who watches everything you do and you have to pledge your undivided loyalty to him otherwise he sends your soul to some lake of fire somewhere under the ground.
So you'll use carbon dating to claim that dinosaurs exists (and contradict the Bible) then when it is used to validate the historicity of the Bible you will claim it's false? You are so smart, why didn't I think of that?
I'll give you one big cookie for using historicity in a sentance correctly. But it's going to have a huge bite out of it for not explaining what carbon dating validated in the bible.
So you'll use carbon dating to claim that dinosaurs exists (and contradict the Bible) then when it is used to validate the historicity of the Bible you will claim it's false? You are so smart, why didn't I think of that?
i think the bible had some facets in history to an extent, and most of that extent is well-documented.
as for it proving the legitimacy of the belief, that I do not believe in.
It pretty much just affirms the existence of the bible in said time frame, but not so much supporting the theology of it IMO.
if you get to something trying to push that logic a lot of that is perceptual conjecture.
IE, the bible doesn't have to be completely word for word true, but only based around the events surrounding.
So you'll use carbon dating to claim that dinosaurs exists (and contradict the Bible) then when it is used to validate the historicity of the Bible you will claim it's false? You are so smart, why didn't I think of that?
I'll give you one big cookie for using historicity in a sentance correctly. But it's going to have a huge bite out of it for not explaining what carbon dating validated in the bible.
It validates the location of the Israelites (Jews), the duration of their beliefs etc etc, (not the existence of God, I clearly did not say this). I thought an intellectual like yourself would have been able to acknowledge this from reading the examples that I posted, actually you probably didn't even read it because you're so biased and bigoted.
So you'll use carbon dating to claim that dinosaurs exists (and contradict the Bible) then when it is used to validate the historicity of the Bible you will claim it's false? You are so smart, why didn't I think of that?
i think the bible had some facets in history to an extent, and most of that extent is well-documented.
as for it proving the legitimacy of the belief, that I do not believe in.
It pretty much just affirms the existence of the bible in said time frame, but not so much supporting the theology of it IMO.
if you get to something trying to push that logic a lot of that is perceptual conjecture.
IE, the bible doesn't have to be completely word for word true, but only based around the events surrounding.
Metamorphosis of Ovid - compare it to the Bible ^_= You'll see many similarities.
The Bible is just an old History Textbook that uses ghosts and the supernatural to tell its' stories and explain its' stories.
So you'll use carbon dating to claim that dinosaurs exists (and contradict the Bible) then when it is used to validate the historicity of the Bible you will claim it's false? You are so smart, why didn't I think of that?
i think the bible had some facets in history to an extent, and most of that extent is well-documented.
as for it proving the legitimacy of the belief, that I do not believe in.
It pretty much just affirms the existence of the bible in said time frame, but not so much supporting the theology of it IMO.
if you get to something trying to push that logic a lot of that is perceptual conjecture.
IE, the bible doesn't have to be completely word for word true, but only based around the events surrounding.
Metamorphosis of Ovid - compare it to the Bible ^_= You'll see many similarities.
The Bible is just an old History Textbook that uses ghosts and the supernatural to tell its' stories and explain its' stories.
Yup.
:D
If you'll look at many of the religious texts around that time period(and pre-dating said period) you will see a lot of repeating concepts and values...i think some of the values were adopted mutually throughout, or adopted(in the case of predating philosophy) in the new testament values.
point is, Obama is a closeted homo, gays should marry and be miserable, and evolution DID happen.
/thread
Obama also needs to do some big stuff before 2012 elections due to him failing to live up to what he promised.
Oh look. Here we are.
Im surprised people were expecting him to achieve anything.
I wasnt. I get to be one of the "I told you so" people.
Honestly it was either him or McCain/Palin. Lesser of the two evils. That's all elections are now-a-days. I'm starting to think that I should just say "*** voting" and not vote until I see a guy worthy of my precious vote.
Or just vote for Micky Mouse.
I don't think there's any more I can say, PM me if you have any questions my friend.
No that's OK, you've served as a wonderful example here as to exactly why this issue should not be decided by majority vote, but instead come down to the courts. Apparently you not only believe that gay marriage is a sacrilege on par with having sex in church, you think that, in order to accommodate this belief, our very system of government should be thrown out in favor of something closer to that of Iran.
I mean, really, now, it's just beyond the pal.
Straw man here maybe? I dont care for starr and dont care to defend their ideas but it is very hypocritical to attack an idea you dont agree with while defending another idea from attack for the same reason.
It doesnt matter how much people *** and moan there is no such thing as Shangri-La. People must compromise. If you can't see this you are part of the problem and not the solution. Its not about proving whos right and whos wrong its about making all our lives better.
So you'll use carbon dating to claim that dinosaurs exists (and contradict the Bible) then when it is used to validate the historicity of the Bible you will claim it's false? You are so smart, why didn't I think of that?
i think the bible had some facets in history to an extent, and most of that extent is well-documented.
as for it proving the legitimacy of the belief, that I do not believe in.
It pretty much just affirms the existence of the bible in said time frame, but not so much supporting the theology of it IMO.
if you get to something trying to push that logic a lot of that is perceptual conjecture.
IE, the bible doesn't have to be completely word for word true, but only based around the events surrounding.
Metamorphosis of Ovid - compare it to the Bible ^_= You'll see many similarities.
The Bible is just an old History Textbook that uses ghosts and the supernatural to tell its' stories and explain its' stories.
Yup.
:D
If you'll look at many of the religious texts around that time period(and pre-dating said period) you will see a lot of repeating concepts and values...i think some of the values were adopted mutually throughout, or adopted(in the case of predating philosophy) in the new testament values.
I think this video is mildly appropriate to this discussion:
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama ordered his administration on Wednesday to stop defending the constitutionality of a federal law that bans recognition of gay marriage, a policy reversal that could have major implications for the rights and benefits of gay couples and reignite an emotional debate for the 2012 presidential campaign.
Obama still is "grappling" with his personal views on whether gays should be allowed to marry but has long opposed the federal law as unnecessary and unfair, said spokesman Jay Carney.
This is a step in the right direction. The Constitution was designed to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority, and the only real argument against allowing two consenting adults of the same sex to engage in a civil contract is religious indignation. There is nothing in the Constitution that allows for discrimination based purely on religious outrage.
