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Aegis enhancement?
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By Asura.Clickclack 2011-02-16 15:40:40
Titan.Darkwizardzin said: Clickclack said: Titan.Darkwizardzin said: Asura.Clickclack said: PLD is never useless in the past or now because it is just a fun job that pple like to play. You know video game, play to have fun, pple like different things etc. I like playing PLD, fun job and looking forward to this update, hands down Aegis > Ochain This is all true Play what you want to play. Pld is only "useless" in a top porfomance set up. It can still play a role in a party. I have to disagree with Aegis > Ochain however. a shield that can turn 1/4 of the damage you take from a blocked attack (with a 90% block rate) and turns it into hp is very... very powerful. Even SE has realized this (check the OP) and is gonna improve aegis so it can match it. MP not HP unless you mean by curing but with atma's, devotion, refresh, gear, ballad etc is mp a problem? typo but my point is the damage migreation that ochain gives just doesn't conpare to aegis. even more so since you can cap magic damage Migration with gear and Shell V alone.
Does your PLD take a lot of dmg w/o Ochain or Aegis?
 Asura.Nalien
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By Asura.Nalien 2011-02-16 15:42:36
Why do you even post, you can't even tank a Wyrm on your Aegis/Dring PLD inside Abyssea with the support of multiple healers and bards. (Including WHMs)
You're no PLD, maybe a sheet of paper at best.
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By Asura.Matzilla 2011-02-16 15:44:10
Asura.Nalien said: Why do you even post, you can't even tank a Wyrm on your Aegis/Dring PLD inside Abyssea with the support of multiple healers and bards. (Including WHMs)
You're no PLD, maybe a sheet of paper at best.
Remember that time we took tunga from you and you watched us for like an hour crying in /say and called us ***? that was pretty funny
oh yeah i diagaed a bunch of your chigoes lols
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By Sylph.Quiznor 2011-02-16 15:47:24
So,whats this so called enhancement that was made recently to Aegis? Anyone?
By Clickclack 2011-02-16 15:48:22
Asura.Nalien said: Why do you even post, you can't even tank a Wyrm on your Aegis/Dring PLD inside Abyssea with the support of multiple healers and bards. (Including WHMs)
You're no PLD, maybe a sheet of paper at best.
O you mean when i was playing PLD and WHM and ran out of mp and was petrified and the brd dc'd yeah ***happens
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By Titan.Darkwizardzin 2011-02-16 15:48:44
Asura.Clickclack said: Titan.Darkwizardzin said: Clickclack said: Titan.Darkwizardzin said: Asura.Clickclack said: PLD is never useless in the past or now because it is just a fun job that pple like to play. You know video game, play to have fun, pple like different things etc. I like playing PLD, fun job and looking forward to this update, hands down Aegis > Ochain This is all true Play what you want to play. Pld is only "useless" in a top porfomance set up. It can still play a role in a party. I have to disagree with Aegis > Ochain however. a shield that can turn 1/4 of the damage you take from a blocked attack (with a 90% block rate) and turns it into hp is very... very powerful. Even SE has realized this (check the OP) and is gonna improve aegis so it can match it. MP not HP unless you mean by curing but with atma's, devotion, refresh, gear, ballad etc is mp a problem? typo but my point is the damage migreation that ochain gives just doesn't conpare to aegis. even more so since you can cap magic damage Migration with gear and Shell V alone. Does your PLD take a lot of dmg w/o Ochain or Aegis? I don't have to have pld to know which is clearly the better shield. Caitsith.Shiroi said: Can you give us a reason why Aegis is better than Ochain? Still waiting for you to give a reasonable answer to this question. If you can't then Ochain > Aegis.
Asura.Nalien
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By Asura.Nalien 2011-02-16 15:48:58
Quote: Yeah but you still had a sam + pld on it, a PLD + WHM combo can kill it I'm 100% sure that's true, but it'll take much longer than most other jobs which was the point. I had no PLD.
The PLD was an incompetent piece of ***who wiped to it with his alliance... Which is fairly obvious if you spent any more than zero seconds looking at the ss.
Quote: Remember that time we took tunga from you and you watched us for like an hour crying in /say and called us ***? that was pretty funny I don't recall doing Tunga, farming TE at for my mule at best.
Tunga seemed to go nigh equally as rough on you guys as Dragua, though.
And yeah, you're still incompetent askar ***.
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By Caitsith.Amonk 2011-02-16 15:49:34
Damage mitigation is when you take less damage.
Damage migration is when the damage you take, leaves.
Asura.Nalien
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By Asura.Nalien 2011-02-16 15:50:28
Clickclack said: Asura.Nalien said: Why do you even post, you can't even tank a Wyrm on your Aegis/Dring PLD inside Abyssea with the support of multiple healers and bards. (Including WHMs)
You're no PLD, maybe a sheet of paper at best.
O you mean when i was playing PLD and WHM and ran out of mp and was petrified and the brd dc'd yeah ***happens So WHMs run out of MP in Abyssea now, PLD/NINs can't cure themselves.
And Bards who die roughly five times per minute are considered disconnecting.
I appreciate you clearing this up for me.
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By Asura.Nalien 2011-02-16 15:51:58
Caitsith.Shiroi said: Quote: The PLD was an incompetent piece of ***who wiped to it with his alliance... Which is fairly obvious if you spent any more than zero seconds looking at the ss.
Sorry I don't speak german? Oh, how witty. This would barely work if you were capable of identifying who the party members and who the outsiders are in a screenshot.
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By Caitsith.Amonk 2011-02-16 15:52:33
SS = Screenshot. http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Slang
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By Asura.Matzilla 2011-02-16 15:55:38
problems at home nailen? :(
also you cried like a *** for no less than an hour
By Serj 2011-02-16 15:56:21
Caitsith.Shiroi said: Asura.Nalien said: Caitsith.Shiroi said: Quote: The PLD was an incompetent piece of ***who wiped to it with his alliance... Which is fairly obvious if you spent any more than zero seconds looking at the ss.
Sorry I don't speak german? Oh, how witty. This would barely work if you were capable of identifying who the party members and who the outsiders are in a screenshot.
Don't rage, edited it, your screenshot is quite big and FFXIAH is not fullscreen. Thought it was cropped couldnt see party.
If you want insults for whatever reason well just ask lol.
Right click, select view image. Then you can see the whole thing.
By Clickclack 2011-02-16 15:57:07
Asura.Matzilla said: problems at home nailen? :(
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By Bismarck.Nalien 2011-02-16 15:57:29
So you duo'd *** (everyone with half a brain has done this no more than once) that can be done properly with one to two more.
Screenshots are hard to read.
I think we can leave it at that.
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By Bismarck.Nalien 2011-02-16 15:57:57
Clickclack said: Asura.Matzilla said: brbwipe
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By Asura.Nalien 2011-02-16 15:58:40
Know what amused me most? I don't even have to resort to MPK to get your ***.
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By Asura.Clickclack 2011-02-16 16:00:10
Asura.Nalien said: Know what amused me most? I don't even have to resort to MPK to get your ***.
Then why don't you have ***?
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By Asura.Matzilla 2011-02-16 16:01:08
Asura.Nalien said: Know what amused me most? I don't even have to resort to MPK to get your ***.
mpk is the first response for angry little german boys, so cute when you get all huffy
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By Asura.Nalien 2011-02-16 16:02:15
I don't know about your fetishes, but feces do not get me going.
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By Asura.Nalien 2011-02-16 16:04:53
Asura.Matzilla said: Asura.Nalien said: Know what amused me most? I don't even have to resort to MPK to get your ***.
mpk is the first response for angry little german boys, so cute when you get all huffy Randomly diaga'ing ***out of the blue does not exactly follow the definition of a response, but that of initialization.
Which in the end, in combination with the played rl card, implies that you people are in fact the ones with "problems at home".
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-02-16 16:06:03
news flash: nalien > this thread and the people that post in it
and yes amonk, he used the wrong word there on page three? think it was, but overall he's the most fluent english-speaking person i've ever met that learned english as a second language, meanwhile you and me only know english, so
granted, superior language, but you catch my drift
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By Asura.Nalien 2011-02-16 16:06:50
fourth
what was the wrong word anyways
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-02-16 16:08:25
Asura.Nalien said: what was the wrong word anyways
you said migration, when you meant mitigation
From twitter:
Quote: We're planning to enhance Aegis in the next major version update in order to balance it with the new and powerful Ochain! Any guesses as to what SE is gonna do to it?
Update from the playonline website:
SE said: Q: I can't help but feel like my Aegis shield pales in comparison to the recently added Ochain. Will anything be done about this?
A: Yes. The concepts behind Aegis and Ochain were to focus on magic and physical attack defense, respectively. As it stands now, however, Ochain's extremely high block rate makes it appear significantly more effective. We intend to balance things out in the next major update by giving a boost to Aegis's magic defense capabilities.
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