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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-02-11 11:31:31
Ramuh.Vinvv said: PS1?
PSX is far superior.
hey I like my screen, and my PSX died on me long ago :D
Cerberus.Rayik said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Cerberus.Rayik said: Odin.Blazza said: Most FF games are a bit of a hybrid, even 11. I really like that about them, how half the people in the world of that game are living in the 16th century, and the other half are living in an almost futuristic world. Some of the older games do this the best I think, in that you think you're in a medieval world, then Cid rocks up with his *** airship, and next thing you know you're being attacked by giant robots in a hidden mechanical city.
That much has always been there. Yes, in the first FF game on NES, there is a part where you do fight machines in a futuristc level. But that's one small part of an otherwise 90% medieval fantasy game. That much I did like.
so 70% compared to 90% is what makes the difference for you?
Dude, get off my nuts. Are you a paid representative of SE's FF7 development team? Christ on a cracker I didn't care for it so I didn't get it.
I wish, and I'm just saying your reasoning is faulty, severely.
Asura.Yunalaysca said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Asura.Yunalaysca said: wasnt like the very first final fantasy (FFadventures) like a very modernized-futuristic game? had a *** jet bike for christ sakes.
The first Final Fantasy was "Final Fantasy" ... i was refering to this
and I was referring to this:
the first Final Fantasy
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By Asura.Yunalaysca 2011-02-11 11:31:39
Ramuh.Vinvv said: Asura.Yunalaysca said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Asura.Yunalaysca said: wasnt like the very first final fantasy (FFadventures) like a very modernized-futuristic game? had a *** jet bike for christ sakes.
The first Final Fantasy was "Final Fantasy" ... i was refering to thisstill not the first final fantasy, did you read the posts before referring to this?
First one came out in 87(90 for the US) for JP, Adventures came out in 91 on the Gameboy.
Huuuuuge difference. if i had i would have quoted someone else.
it still had a jet bike in the tower :<
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By Cerberus.Rayik 2011-02-11 11:32:26
Odin.Blazza said: Also, from what you're saying Rayik, (and this is the last I'll say because it's suddenly turning into a "pick on Rayik because he doesn't like FF7" thread) is that you haven't actually played the game at all, but are judging it based only on it's reviews, which are all great really. Even the people that spurn it for the pure fact that it's "over-rated" generally express a certain amount of respect for it.
Seriously, give it a try, it's a great story, and a way more in-depth game with more side-quests and other ***to do than any of the single player FF's that came after it. (imo)
Like I said earlier, I've sat through pretty much the whole game.I know the plot spoilers by heart. At this point I have no reason to play it. The graphics turned me off of it before, and now they look even worse. I'd rather play something else.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2011-02-11 11:33:04
Asura.Yunalaysca said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: Asura.Yunalaysca said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Asura.Yunalaysca said: wasnt like the very first final fantasy (FFadventures) like a very modernized-futuristic game? had a *** jet bike for christ sakes.
The first Final Fantasy was "Final Fantasy" ... i was refering to thisstill not the first final fantasy, did you read the posts before referring to this?
First one came out in 87(90 for the US) for JP, Adventures came out in 91 on the Gameboy.
Huuuuuge difference. if i had i would have quoted someone else.
it still had a jet bike in the tower :< well if you linked to the wiki you should have been able to read it right?
it's right at the top of the page for pete's sake.
Quote: Final Fantasy Adventure, known as Mystic Quest in Europe and as Seiken Densetsu: Final Fantasy Gaiden (聖剣伝説 ~ファイナルファンタジー外伝~ Seiken Densetsu: Fainaru Fantajī Gaiden?, lit. "Holy Sword Legend: Final Fantasy Supplementary Story") in Japan, is a Final Fantasy spinoff and the first game in the Mana series.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-02-11 11:33:07
Ramuh.Rowland said: Caitsith.Linear said: Asura.Yunalaysca said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Asura.Yunalaysca said: wasnt like the very first final fantasy (FFadventures) like a very modernized-futuristic game? had a *** jet bike for christ sakes.
The first Final Fantasy was "Final Fantasy" ... i was refering to thisThat came out four years after FFI was released <_< Straight from that wiki link:
"Along with Final Fantasy Mystic Quest, Final Fantasy Adventure was the first Final Fantasy game to be released in Europe."
Europe sucks and gets everything last, that's common knowledge
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-02-11 11:33:42
Cerberus.Rayik said: Odin.Blazza said: Also, from what you're saying Rayik, (and this is the last I'll say because it's suddenly turning into a "pick on Rayik because he doesn't like FF7" thread) is that you haven't actually played the game at all, but are judging it based only on it's reviews, which are all great really. Even the people that spurn it for the pure fact that it's "over-rated" generally express a certain amount of respect for it.
Seriously, give it a try, it's a great story, and a way more in-depth game with more side-quests and other ***to do than any of the single player FF's that came after it. (imo)
Like I said earlier, I've sat through pretty much the whole game.I know the plot spoilers by heart. At this point I have no reason to play it. The graphics turned me off of it before, and now they look even worse. I'd rather play something else.
graphics don't make or break a game, unless you're a tool.
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By Ramuh.Urial 2011-02-11 11:33:46
Cerberus.Rayik said: Odin.Blazza said: Also, from what you're saying Rayik, (and this is the last I'll say because it's suddenly turning into a "pick on Rayik because he doesn't like FF7" thread) is that you haven't actually played the game at all, but are judging it based only on it's reviews, which are all great really. Even the people that spurn it for the pure fact that it's "over-rated" generally express a certain amount of respect for it.
Seriously, give it a try, it's a great story, and a way more in-depth game with more side-quests and other ***to do than any of the single player FF's that came after it. (imo)
Like I said earlier, I've sat through pretty much the whole game.I know the plot spoilers by heart. At this point I have no reason to play it. The graphics turned me off of it before, and now they look even worse. I'd rather play something else.
The graphics turned you off....what were you 3 when it launched originally?
Because at the time that ***was ground breaking.
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By Asura.Yunalaysca 2011-02-11 11:33:51
also granted it was finally finished after final fantasy, it was being made and then canceled before final fantasy. still first in my book i guess.
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By Cerberus.Rayik 2011-02-11 11:34:12
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
I wish, and I'm just saying your reasoning is faulty, severely.
It ain't a perfect world, people are going to disagree with you and simply not like things. Deal with it.
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By Cerberus.Rayik 2011-02-11 11:34:37
Ramuh.Urial said: Cerberus.Rayik said: Odin.Blazza said: Also, from what you're saying Rayik, (and this is the last I'll say because it's suddenly turning into a "pick on Rayik because he doesn't like FF7" thread) is that you haven't actually played the game at all, but are judging it based only on it's reviews, which are all great really. Even the people that spurn it for the pure fact that it's "over-rated" generally express a certain amount of respect for it.
Seriously, give it a try, it's a great story, and a way more in-depth game with more side-quests and other ***to do than any of the single player FF's that came after it. (imo)
Like I said earlier, I've sat through pretty much the whole game.I know the plot spoilers by heart. At this point I have no reason to play it. The graphics turned me off of it before, and now they look even worse. I'd rather play something else.
The graphics turned you off....what were you 3 when it launched originally?
Because at the time that ***was ground breaking.
I was 18, actually.
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By Bismarck.Angeleus 2011-02-11 11:34:39
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
and I was referring to this:
the first Final Fantasy
Thanks for making me feel like I'm 87 years old...
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2011-02-11 11:34:52
Asura.Yunalaysca said: also granted it was finally finished after final fantasy, it was being made and then canceled before final fantasy. still first in my book i guess. i think you just don't know how to read very well if you think that.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-02-11 11:38:36
Cerberus.Rayik said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
I wish, and I'm just saying your reasoning is faulty, severely.
It ain't a perfect world, people are going to disagree with you and simply not like things. Deal with it.
I don't have a problem with people disagreeing, but at least make sense when you do so, you don't make sense.
Bismarck.Angeleus said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
and I was referring to this:
the first Final Fantasy
Thanks for making me feel like I'm 87 years old...
NP
Ramuh.Vinvv said: Asura.Yunalaysca said: also granted it was finally finished after final fantasy, it was being made and then canceled before final fantasy. still first in my book i guess. i think you just don't know how to read very well if you think that.
Indeed, canceled =/= first.
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By Asura.Yunalaysca 2011-02-11 11:39:07
yeah yeah i concede, i will then say this: final fantasy adventure was one of the first final fantasy's, and it had a modernized-futuristic setting.
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By Cerberus.Rayik 2011-02-11 11:40:08
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
I don't have a problem with people disagreeing, but at least make sense when you do so, you don't make sense.
Then move along. Seriously, what the *** is so hard to understand? I saw the game, it didn't interest me, so I didn't play it. A remake might interest me. Christ.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-02-11 11:42:32
Cerberus.Rayik said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Cerberus.Rayik said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
I wish, and I'm just saying your reasoning is faulty, severely.
It ain't a perfect world, people are going to disagree with you and simply not like things. Deal with it.
I don't have a problem with people disagreeing, but at least make sense when you do so, you don't make sense.
Then move along. Seriously, what the *** is so hard to understand? I saw the game, it didn't interest me, so I didn't play it. A remake might interest me. Christ.
Just pointing out your faulty logic, trying to turn you to the right side, sorry if you fail to turn.
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2011-02-11 11:42:38
If they remake FFVII I'll buy it and play it even if it's awful. If it's money SE wants it's money they're going to get. With that said, I hope it's not awful...
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-02-11 11:43:42
Asura.Yunalaysca said: yeah yeah i concede, i will then say this: final fantasy adventure was one of the first final fantasy's, and it had a modernized-futuristic setting.
Just about all of them were hybrids, short of like 8. I guess 13 too? not sure haven't played it yet.
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By Cerberus.Rayik 2011-02-11 11:43:45
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Cerberus.Rayik said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Cerberus.Rayik said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
I wish, and I'm just saying your reasoning is faulty, severely.
It ain't a perfect world, people are going to disagree with you and simply not like things. Deal with it.
I don't have a problem with people disagreeing, but at least make sense when you do so, you don't make sense.
Then move along. Seriously, what the *** is so hard to understand? I saw the game, it didn't interest me, so I didn't play it. A remake might interest me. Christ.
Just pointing out your faulty logic, trying to turn you to the right side, sorry if you fail to turn.
My faulty logic, because I didn't feel like playing a game, that was on a console I didn't own at the time? Seriously, *** off.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-02-11 11:46:33
Cerberus.Rayik said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Cerberus.Rayik said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Cerberus.Rayik said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
I wish, and I'm just saying your reasoning is faulty, severely.
It ain't a perfect world, people are going to disagree with you and simply not like things. Deal with it.
I don't have a problem with people disagreeing, but at least make sense when you do so, you don't make sense.
Then move along. Seriously, what the *** is so hard to understand? I saw the game, it didn't interest me, so I didn't play it. A remake might interest me. Christ.
Just pointing out your faulty logic, trying to turn you to the right side, sorry if you fail to turn.
My faulty logic, because I didn't feel like playing a game, that was on a console I didn't own at the time? Seriously, *** off.
your faulty logic of the modernized world when it's not, and your faulty logic of graphics make or break a game, when they dno't.
I didn't own a playstation until 1999 and I still ended up playing it.
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By Asura.Yunalaysca 2011-02-11 11:47:05
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Cerberus.Rayik said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Cerberus.Rayik said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
I wish, and I'm just saying your reasoning is faulty, severely.
It ain't a perfect world, people are going to disagree with you and simply not like things. Deal with it.
I don't have a problem with people disagreeing, but at least make sense when you do so, you don't make sense.
Then move along. Seriously, what the *** is so hard to understand? I saw the game, it didn't interest me, so I didn't play it. A remake might interest me. Christ.
Just pointing out your faulty logic, trying to turn you to the right side, sorry if you fail to turn.
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Asura.Yunalaysca said: yeah yeah i concede, i will then say this: final fantasy adventure was one of the first final fantasy's, and it had a modernized-futuristic setting.
Just about all of them were hybrids, short of like 8. I guess 13 too? not sure haven't played it yet. yeah, i think, dont quote me on this, that all of them had an airship of sorts. the major point i was trying to make was someone said he didn't like FF7 for it's futuristic aspects when the others had them just as much.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-02-11 11:48:17
Asura.Yunalaysca said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Cerberus.Rayik said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Cerberus.Rayik said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
I wish, and I'm just saying your reasoning is faulty, severely.
It ain't a perfect world, people are going to disagree with you and simply not like things. Deal with it.
I don't have a problem with people disagreeing, but at least make sense when you do so, you don't make sense.
Then move along. Seriously, what the *** is so hard to understand? I saw the game, it didn't interest me, so I didn't play it. A remake might interest me. Christ.
Just pointing out your faulty logic, trying to turn you to the right side, sorry if you fail to turn.
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Asura.Yunalaysca said: yeah yeah i concede, i will then say this: final fantasy adventure was one of the first final fantasy's, and it had a modernized-futuristic setting.
Just about all of them were hybrids, short of like 8. I guess 13 too? not sure haven't played it yet. yeah, i think, dont quote me on this, that all of them had an airship of sorts. the major point i was trying to make was someone said he didn't like FF7 for it's futuristic aspects when the others had them just as much.
I was trying to not make a Star Wars reference :D
Also hence why I said his logic is faulty, several times.
bold (oh well) :P
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By Cerberus.Rayik 2011-02-11 11:48:39
Asura.Yunalaysca said:
Just about all of them were hybrids, short of like 8. I guess 13 too? not sure haven't played it yet.
yeah, i think, dont quote me on this, that all of them had an airship of sorts. the major point i was trying to make was someone said he didn't like FF7 for it's futuristic aspects when the others had them just as much.
Have you played any FF's pre-7?
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2011-02-11 11:49:39
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Asura.Yunalaysca said: yeah yeah i concede, i will then say this: final fantasy adventure was one of the first final fantasy's, and it had a modernized-futuristic setting.
Just about all of them were hybrids, short of like 8. I guess 13 too? not sure haven't played it yet. GUNBLADES!
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-02-11 11:49:46
Cerberus.Rayik said: Asura.Yunalaysca said:
Just about all of them were hybrids, short of like 8. I guess 13 too? not sure haven't played it yet.
yeah, i think, dont quote me on this, that all of them had an airship of sorts. the major point i was trying to make was someone said he didn't like FF7 for it's futuristic aspects when the others had them just as much.
Have you played any FF's pre-7?
I have and I'm straight up telling you that you don't know what you're talking about. Play 7 then talk about it.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-02-11 11:50:28
Ramuh.Vinvv said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Asura.Yunalaysca said: yeah yeah i concede, i will then say this: final fantasy adventure was one of the first final fantasy's, and it had a modernized-futuristic setting.
Just about all of them were hybrids, short of like 8. I guess 13 too? not sure haven't played it yet. GUNBLADES!
still make me cream myself, I just watched the into to 8 again on my emulator, oyg it is so clear
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By Cerberus.Rayik 2011-02-11 11:50:42
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Cerberus.Rayik said: Asura.Yunalaysca said:
Just about all of them were hybrids, short of like 8. I guess 13 too? not sure haven't played it yet.
yeah, i think, dont quote me on this, that all of them had an airship of sorts. the major point i was trying to make was someone said he didn't like FF7 for it's futuristic aspects when the others had them just as much.
Have you played any FF's pre-7?
I have and I'm straight up telling you that you don't know what you're talking about. Play 7 then talk about it.
Play 1 then tell me there's just as much. Hell, play 5 and tell me it's just as futuristic. I dare ya.
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By Asura.Alexstaifter 2011-02-11 11:51:19
They have most of the required pieces to make the Remake already, so its not like the development for character designs and such would be hard
(Think Advent Children, Dirge of Cerberus and Crisis Core)
They have voice actors already for all the major characters
(Cloud, Tifa, Barret, Aerith, Red XIII, Cid, Yuffie, Vincent, Cait Sith, Sephiroth, The Turks, Rufus, Zack, Genesis, Angeal )
The music would just need to be updated (like a more modern version of all the tracks)
Since it's a remake, they have the basis from the other FF7 series games to work with to redesign it for this Gen.
I think they should update the story to fix up the canon a bit (With the extra turks, genesis, angeal and zack backstory to flush it out.)
Adding some Optional stuff like, being ablt to Fight Genesis, Angeal and so on (just to spice things up)
Some new gear here and there (like a new ultimate weapon for Cloud being the one he has in AC, which would be better than his Ultima Weapon)
those are just some of my ideas
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By Odin.Blazza 2011-02-11 11:51:44
Cerberus.Rayik said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Cerberus.Rayik said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Cerberus.Rayik said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
I wish, and I'm just saying your reasoning is faulty, severely.
It ain't a perfect world, people are going to disagree with you and simply not like things. Deal with it.
I don't have a problem with people disagreeing, but at least make sense when you do so, you don't make sense.
Then move along. Seriously, what the *** is so hard to understand? I saw the game, it didn't interest me, so I didn't play it. A remake might interest me. Christ.
Just pointing out your faulty logic, trying to turn you to the right side, sorry if you fail to turn.
My faulty logic, because I didn't feel like playing a game, that was on a console I didn't own at the time? Seriously, *** off.
No, the logic where you decided you didn't like a game you hadn't played. Yeah yeah, you didn't like the graphics, whoop de doo, graphics never made or broke any game. And again, sitting and watching someone else play a game is nothing like playing it yourself. While you very well may have sat through all the main story line stuff, I very much doubt you've seen it all. All we're saying is that if you enjoyed the other FF games, then there's actually a very good chance that you'll like this one too, and you shouldn't be so quick to dismiss, yes, even 15 years (I think) after it's release. It's kinda like a movie buff saying they've never seen the Godfather.
I don't really care if you don't wanna play it, and I doubt that anyone else here does either, but I have to agree, your reasoning for not wanting to doesn't make any sense. There's no reason you can't play it now just because it's no longer a new release title.
yeah yeah i know: beat a dead horse.
but i came across something just a moment ago, something about Tetsuya Nomura revealing a top secret highly demanded title to be brought to light in 2011, i believe it was in a press conference in december. alot of people were speculating it was the final fantasy VII remake that millions of people were begging for, or for KH3. I personally dont know if it would be for KH3 since we kind of knew about it already thus fore go the "top secret". thoughts?
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