Random Thoughts.....What Are You Thinking?

I don't view etiquette as moral. To me the use of etiquette is a behavior that one can choose which leads to certain result. Like when you go to a country with different culture, you follow their etiquette so you become part of the group etc. likewise when you purposely ditch etiquette, you convey your negative emotion to the opposite side. It's a social tool first and foremost.

Rant about specific individual behind their back at its core, it is an action of emotions. You feel good when you do it. That's it. It doesn't even convey the negative emotion to your target because they can't be read by the target. It doesn't serve any other purpose except emotional "feel good".

To me personally, whenever I see someone do this multiple times, my first reaction is always "will they do the same to me?". If you talk bad behind someone's back once, they'll do it second time,third time, and anyone they know can be the next victim. And other people may view such behavior negatively because they may not want to become the next victim.

(Personally, irl I avoid anyone that has such habit so I don't become the next victim)

Additionally, there is also the risk of the listeners are all supporters in the same social circle, created a bubble that prevented the speaker from really seeing the flaws in their actions. Because nobody will point that out due to "etiquette" reasons.

That was the whole logic behind why I said "it is not a good idea". I didn't say nice. "Be Nice" has to produce specific result to have a value. It's not always the best response to every situation.

And you didn't convey that value in your "advice" lol. That's why it's totally unconvincing.

I didn't say you can't offer advice btw, of course you can. I only said purely moral based advice isn't going to work on me.


I get that many people operate on the basis of moral when they make decisions, especially you. So it's easy to think that way.

Not me though, moral as a concept is rejected by every braincell in me. It's like when vampire touches sun, painful.

Maybe I had moral concept when I was younger, but the influence of such concept got weaker as I got old.

I am surprised that you haven't realize this fact after this many years of moral exchange lol.


I view it as a bad idea, why would I want adopt the same behavior under most circumstances? Your assumption is WAY off lol.


What's wrong with sounding abrasive though? You haven't give me a reason beyond "be nice". (I know you feel sounding abrasive is wrong, but I don't share such views)

You are free to assume I sound abrasive because I am mean if you wish. Why does it even matter? Why do you keep saying you don't want to assume this way? I just don't understand.

I admitted the first response was an emotional response by nature too. I have higher emotional fluctuation than average, so it's easy to make emotional decisions for me too. But at least the message communicated the negative emotion. and whether the opposite side appreciate the advice or not, and their negative emotional response after that, didn't really affect my mind. So whatever, idc.

And like you said, Vyre is a "good guy" and a mod, so I don't mind backing down. But if you think that's because of "moral", you are damn wrong.

You need to have fruitful communications with me at least a few times before you can write a guide to teach other people. How many times have you accomplished that in your life? I don't think there are many.

I'd rather vote for Thorny to write this book, at least he doesn't spam moral this and etiquette that when he communicates. Which is like the worst method when the target is me.

Also, if you don't like to listen to my personal philosophy, don't openly challenge it on a public forum with this:


Or this:


You demand an explanation yourself. What else do you expect me to respond? You could have stayed silent when I apologize to Vyre (which was probably your initial goal) instead of continue to question my pov and put fuels in the fire even after your initial goal has accomplished.

Some etiquette, lol.


20k gil from a non-ally can get me be nice to one people once. Business 101, Research the target before making an offer.

This concept is probably hard for you to understand because of the "moral" in you though.

Anyways, I am done with you. If you don't have anything else to add can you please stop replying to my posts? I suggest you stick with your initial decision to stay away from me forever, I sincerely think it's better for both of us. I was slightly disappointed when you reversed your own decision and replied to my posts you know?