Random Thoughts.....What Are You Thinking?

Also from the looks of things I was wise to resign. They already have a new AGM slotted into next week's schedule as well as a new part timer for the desk, meaning they either got people from other properties to agree to shifts here, or they promised someone a position before/without even firing me.

Nothing new. It's a horrible company. Had to listen to the murmurs of how much corporate and the regional think I'm a shitbag. Typical whenever anyone quits. Hilarious as well since the regional was going to quit/retire last year but didn't after a salary increase.

Ah well, no use whining about it any longer. I'll toast to the potential of the future when I get home and then hop on XI and drive a little closer to R15 Ragnarok and Mythic Weapon completion.

Did you leave them an upper decker on your way out?

I took a few poos today because I have IBS and had a flare up this morning.

But nah, that toilet has been through enough.

I did consider leaving magnets in the server closet, but then I remembered I don't have access to any magnets strong enough to do anything.

You can always jump the another multiverse where you are still working there, doing massages in your boss feet.

Panta if you want a paw massage go to a doggie spa, jeez

FINISH
THE
JOB

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Sold my old monitor on ebay, sale goes fine but it gets damaged in the process. Refund buyer and file claim with UPS, they declare it damaged, but won't pay anything claiming improper packaging. I dropped it off at a UPS store and they were the ones who packaged it. UPS the carrier (evidently they don't talk much to each other) charges me to send it back from buyer to me, as if I have a use for a broken monitor. All told I'm out $100 in shipping fees with no sale money and no working monitor. Never doing that again, will just donate it to Goodwill or something.

Well.....


Once upon a time someone wise told me, if you want to quit your job for whatever reason, always thank the company and managers for giving you an opportunity to work. Never burn your bridges with the company no matter how unhappy you were. This will prevent tons of shitstorm afterwards.

This applies even if you personally think it's 100% their fault, and feel emotionally unfair to respond this way. It doesn't matter.

Over the years I quit jobs a couple of times and this advice worked well every single time. I would say it's one of the best advice in my entire career. Even against managers with bad emotion management skill, I still managed somewhat good business relationship even after I quit. Once I even got a couple of extra freelance jobs from them right after I quit while I was jobless.

Other advice would be try to prevent entering the stage of being unhappy with managers by using upward management strategy. There are tons of books that talked about it.

Once upon a time a wise dog told me:

"auf auf grrr auf!".

Since then, I always remember his words

auf auf grrr auf!

Now I'm in Panta's head.... FOREVER mwhahaha. :D

The manager I wrote the letter to was junior to me in every regard, including skill at the job, except for being picked to be my new boss. She did not hire me. Quite the opposite. I reviewed her application with my former boss and partially OK'd her, giving her the opportunity to work.

The regional who I tendered my professional resignation to is who hired me / forced a second interview about me because she didn't trust my previous boss's recommendation. Though I've worked there for 6 years, I was actually a rehire because I used to be full time nights, and I had to quit because I couldn't get advanced due to previous management not wanting to find a new night auditor. They even advanced someone back then in 2022 to AGM who hadn't even been at the hotel for 2 months, who couldn't even check guests in properly, still. If I'd burned bridges I would have been put on the, "do not rehire list." Which I'm probably on this time, because I spurned regional's choice.

It's more likely I never fully escaped being thought of as that weirdo who works nights. The new GM is a woman in her 50s. Regionals don't get intimate with properties, and our regional is over retirement age. Also not very useful to non-Holiday Inn properties, cause while she cross trained as required, she just isn't computer literate anyway, and any help she can provide is in the form of getting corporate to act faster due to her position.

I've been in the work force for nearly 15 years. I haven't seen it all, but I know how to act. I also know when I'm being screwed over. They had an email freeze out on me going since they fired my boss on Halloween. I haven't been receiving the typical corporate emails since then. I wasn't even informed of their choice for GM, ever. It's one of those petty office politics type of situations where they actually cut down on my ability to do work they want by denying me critical info, so they can then justify firing me. They just wanted to keep me around for the holidays, so I could fill mandatory front desk shifts, as the hotel has to stay open 24/7. Regardless of how courteous I was, they were going to can me after New Years more than likely. The vitriol comes from me not allowing them to do that by quitting.

TL;DR - They burned the bridge, not me. Some company's are just shitty.

I didn't judge who is right and who is wrong in this scenario. It is pointless and pretty much impossible to do without info from multiple sides. And I also made it clear in the last post that I can recognize how you feel that it is unfair.


So I don't think how any of the story detail matters here. It can be 100% their fault from every angle and the same thing applies.

You did mentioned people were giving you ***after you quit(present a problem). I was simply saying how it can possibly be avoided, that's all.

It has been said that people don't quit jobs, they quit managners.

I think you bolded the wrong part & ignored the sentence that comes after. He said it's typical whenever anyone quits anyways.


The man probably mainly writes because it helps, not because he is asking for solutions, at least not in this case. The deed was done already. Also, there's etiquette to providing advice, including timing & style, if the intention is sincere (not doubting yours) & one wants to help the person & hopes they make use of said advice. Otherwise, one risks coming across as unsympathetic or condescending, and the advice might just fall flat.

Holy damn, 6 years.

I thought I read about you getting the job but maybe not. I dont think I used to follow RT that often 6 years ago.

I can understand the disappointment/frustration as a 6 years job isnt your average part time.

Multiple times I felt like my company wasnt giving me enough merit for my effort, I sincerely felt like I deserved more.

But the thing is, company are made by humans. Humans arent supposed to be the fair judge of your merit. Only few enlight ones can really appreciate you the exact measure you deserve.

But given my company and the previous one (subsidiary of my current one) are big enough to allow me to change "job" by simply migrating to another department, I never had this hassle of being unemployed.

But I can precisely relate, and after some point, I stopped caring if people will see my work or not.

My life as an employee made me realize my second goal in life (aside the master degree in Europe): working as a freelance, without bosses, without hierarchy.

My goal is to be my only boss, to be a one-man team. Working only what I like.

Omg, its so annoying when pages automatically translate stuffs without even asking if i want that.

I feel so disrespected by that. I never asked this, but then internet thinks its helping me

I don't know if I should make a new character or continue to do maps on my current build. Poe2 devs messed the end game up and made it boring

I worked at Subway for 6 yrs, but I also stole a lot of food and money and we all drank on the job.

What class did you choose?

I am just about to finish Act 3 Cruel on Monk ("Act 6"). I found the game to need serious balancing and has flaws, but it's been good so far. I'm not sure how much more I want to invest in it, though, knowing that it's incomplete. I made a witch and merc also, but haven't made it as far.

Monk seems to have some build flexibility without major passive refunds, but there are a lot of abilities and buffs I've found weak.

The game does have some BS mechanics, though, and that's part of what's killing it for me. I much prefer Last Epoch in its current state, but think it'll get better over time. The question IMO is with both games being in development, which one will end up better off in a year.

This is internet, and readers can be strangers that knows nothing about other users irl, with wide variety of personality. When you write about multiple rant posts that seem condescending to begin with and expects every reader to sympathize, you have wrong expectations on internet interactions to begin with.

Just fyi, I did followed the etiquette and sympathize when this rant post appeared for the first time. I said absolutely nothing when Panta responded with their own "advice" even though I agreed with it in private. But subsequent (worse) rant posts saying this made me respond.


But it is not "typical", and that was my whole point too. I guess you are right that I should quote the latter part.


And there is also etiquette on rant posts timing and style. Maybe you have higher tolerance on rant posts, good for you then. But I think you have too much expectations on other people different from you.

Freelance can have boss too, if you are a service provider then you have clients.

The only way to be completely free is to generate cashflow with assets.

Yea I hate to burst that bubble, but everyone has a boss and being self employed doesn't mean you get to select what work you do.

It typically means you do what you have to so you can bring money in, it's both liberating and punishing depending on how you look at it. I've been self employed for a while and I like it because it often brings a lot of variety in the types of work we do, but I've had to do a lot of shitty scummy work that I didn't want to do just because it had to get done and work long days for weeks on end with no break for varying reasons. When I was an employee, I also did a lot of shitty scummy work that I didn't want to, often for long hours, just because it had to be done. That part really isn't much different.

and you still have bosses. I have 4 with my current contract, that doesn't include the one off work I'm responsible for if someone else *** up. If you are trying to work for yourself so you don't have to deal with managers and bosses then that probably speaks to how successful you'll be self employed. You still answer to someone, the only difference is it's easier for them to get rid of you than if you were an employee. And yes, some of them are still shitty to deal with. I had one several years ago where I walked through a 10min long presentation and she looked at me when I finished and said "Sorry, I wasn't paying attention, could you go over that again?" and I had to start over. We've had others flat out refuse to pay bills (this isn't uncommon) or pay them extremely late (this is VERY common, we've been paid 1.5yrs late on some invoices).

There are exceptions. If you are a subject matter expert that is widely recognized in some niche category then you will have more flexibility in who you work with and the type of work you take on, but even then, there is no guarantee and you still answer to your customers/clients. The only way to really be independent of this is to make enough money that you can pick and choose who you work with, but have enough funds or passive income to go a while without work.

Classic opening commonly used to justify throwing all tact out the window.


He said it was where he worked. It's not our job to interrogate him on wether that's true or not. Just pointing out that saying "you might be in the wrong for all I know" is not exactly nice, at least not during the ordeal. You don't have to pick a side to pass judgement on just as much as you don't have to say anything. But mixing it in with the advice makes an already hard pill much harder to swallow.


I think there's a reason Panta's "advice" didn't rub him off the wrong way.


There you go. That's what prompted you to reply. I wonder though.. Condescending.. to who exactly?
Pretty weird for me tbh.


Which part of the ettiquette did he break?


I actually have a very bad opinion (and low tolerance I guess) of users who only spread negativity on the site (doomposting, constant arguing etc). We're not talking about some user who all they do is rant about their problems. Vyre is actually a positive presence on those forums. Just because he's having a bad time dealing with RL stuff doesn't mean we shouldn't cut him some slack (assuming he's in the wrong to begin with), and I doubt anybody here is disturbed by his posts.


To be clear, I'm not criticizing the general advice itself (it has merit), I'm criticizing its timing, tone (language barrier might be at play), and its immediate application to his situation (which we won't know about more than what he tells us)

I already did. It's not even the first time

From another thread:

I also didn't respond to the above post until 3rd manager got involved. THEN I said something.

This is an obscure game forum that managers who was involved likely don't read posts here nor able to defend for personal attacks behind their back. So it is a one way attack against managers in the story to begin with.

But as a reader I would just read it as rant and move on, until the statement "typical when anyone quits" was written. Which drags whole lot of people in.

I have to admit I didn't know IF "typical when anyone quits" statement means specific location or applies to every location. I read it as a rant against unhappiness at work in general. If it meant specific location, I can apologize for this part.

I still don't think attacking people in public when they can't defend for themselves with their side of story is a good idea though.


What do you mean exactly? Are you trying to say that tact should be applied in every situation?

I don't hold such views. I am sorry if you have different opinion about it. Nothing I can do.


To the managers in the story, who I don't personally know nor they can defend for themselves. Isn't that obvious?


If I wasn't disturbed to a certain degree after it happened multiple times then I wouldn't respond. And honestly I wanted to end this 2 posts ago until you put more fuels in the fire by responding more. Can you just be done already?


If the "tone" is bad, that's because the rant post is equally negative. I generally respond to people with the same emotion. If the tone is positive then I respond the same, and vice versa.

I thought you should know this already.


I was nice....until more and more people got involved in the story. Good for you if you can remain nice. Please don't try to put your moral standard on me(which you really like to), thanks.

I just post my ***here because it feels a little bit less like shouting into the void than doing it on typical social media. Plus, you know, a more reasonable character limit.

If Nikolce still posted he'd be all, "Hahaha, sweet Moderator tears!" And then spiral into a comedic yarn that I can't even imitate correctly.

You guys feel like friends, even if we're just forum acquaintances/cohabitators. I'm just sensitive right now is all.

We could use a good Cerebrindal boat story.

It's fine, sorry if I overreacted a bit over the managers personal attacks part. Hope you find a better job and managers next time.