Good job retrieving a 2 months-old posts just to instigate conflict.
Where is my hoe, lemme lend it to you so you can be productive
Random Thoughts.....What Are You Thinking?
Random Thoughts.....What are you thinking?
It would be better for you if you didn't read news from such.. disreputable sources, to put it within censor limits.
Pantafernando said: »
Good job retrieving a 2 months-old posts just to instigate conflict.
Where is my hoe, lemme lend it to you so you can be productive
Where is my hoe, lemme lend it to you so you can be productive
Dodik said: »
It would be better for you if you didn't read news from such.. disreputable sources, to put it within censor limits.
MSN
Telegraph
The Sun
Yahoo
Are these also "such disreputable sources", or are they ok?
Not saying it's not true. I am saying that particular source, the mirror, tends to misquote and pander to common and incorrect beliefs.
There's been some weird stuff. Read up on the case of the trans male that got sent to women's prison. They came out just as they got arrested and put on a wig. They were arrested for sexual crimes against women.
There's been some weird stuff. Read up on the case of the trans male that got sent to women's prison. They came out just as they got arrested and put on a wig. They were arrested for sexual crimes against women.
Dodik said: »
Read up on the case of the trans male that got sent to women's prison. They came out just as they got arrested and put on a wig. They were arrested for sexual crimes against women.
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
I dont appreciate being told "*** you" in such an angry tone, it lingers and I had to wait two months for things to play out otherwise Viciouss would come out with "das a conspiracy" if I retorted right away.
Jesus already told us the only salvation to human race: and that is to forgive.
Despite how painful its to shallow aggressions, we must overcome the anger and break the vicious cycle of hate.
I have faith you can surpass yourself!
Everything can be forgiven!
1-I'm Canadian
1A- Imagine how shitty you have to be for a Canadian to refuse to say "I'm sorry"
2-I'm atheist
3-Chihuahua's arent dogs
1A- Imagine how shitty you have to be for a Canadian to refuse to say "I'm sorry"
2-I'm atheist
3-Chihuahua's arent dogs
Pantafernando said: »
Jesus already told us the only salvation to human race: and that is to forgive.
Despite how painful its to shallow aggressions, we must overcome the anger and break the vicious cycle of hate.
I have faith you can surpass yourself!
Everything can be forgiven!
Despite how painful its to shallow aggressions, we must overcome the anger and break the vicious cycle of hate.
I have faith you can surpass yourself!
Everything can be forgiven!
O Panta, our Shepherd. Guide us to Salvation.
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Pantafernando said: »
Good job retrieving a 2 months-old posts just to instigate conflict.
Where is my hoe, lemme lend it to you so you can be productive
Where is my hoe, lemme lend it to you so you can be productive
lol, still running with this lie huh? Every time I post, which is rare these days cuz of how busy I am, I am "stalking" you. You aren't that special, canuck.
Also, Seems like a completely appropriate response from Leon at the time. Posting lies about a shooter to instigate violence is a crime. Has nothing to do with the government.
You rarely post, yet you always seem to find my posts, how odd.
Anyways, it wasnt "lies about a shooter" considering it was regarding the stabbing, aka knife violence not gun violence, of three pre-teen girls. That definitely warranted being fast tracked through the courts with no chance of bail. But "WE MUST CUT THEIR THROATS AND GET RID OF THEM ALL" is not an incite of violence, definitely does not need to be fast tracked through the courts and warrants bail.
And as usual, these things that you believe look good "at the time" turn out to be absolutely *** terrible to the detriment to proper civilization.
Anyways, it wasnt "lies about a shooter" considering it was regarding the stabbing, aka knife violence not gun violence, of three pre-teen girls. That definitely warranted being fast tracked through the courts with no chance of bail. But "WE MUST CUT THEIR THROATS AND GET RID OF THEM ALL" is not an incite of violence, definitely does not need to be fast tracked through the courts and warrants bail.
Viciouss said: »
Seems like a completely appropriate response from Leon at the time
Viciouss said: »
Also, Seems like a completely appropriate response from Leon at the time. Posting lies about a shooter to instigate violence is a crime. Has nothing to do with the government.
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
more people who say mean words on the internet
I don't think the problem is "saying mean words on internet" but "what they said leads chaos and real social cost(money loss) in the society".
If one day someone claimed that they put a bomb on an airplane on Facebook. Somebody read it and called the cops. The airline company delayed the flight for 5 hours just to do a security check and found no bombs, airline companies and the passenger lost time/money. Should we punish this kind of posts?
If this isn't punished then everyone can literally post anything for no consequences, and everyone pays for it in the end.
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Seems like a completely appropriate response from Leon at the time
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And as usual, these things that you believe look good "at the time" turn out to be absolutely *** terrible to the detriment to proper civilization.
No actually, I still think Leon's post was appropriate. Looked good then, looks good now. That woman being in jail doesn't hurt civilization at all.
Viciouss said: »
That woman being in jail doesn't hurt civilization at all.
If people can accept misinformation posts about bombs on an airplane that leads to flight delay is crime, then the same logic should apply to misinformation posts that leads to a riot too.
Afania said: »
If one day someone claimed that they put a bomb on an airplane on Facebook. Somebody read it and called the cops. The airline company delayed the flight for 5 hours just to do a security check and found no bombs, airline companies and the passenger lost time/money. Should we punish this kind of posts?
USA
Canada
UK
Australia
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Afania said: »
If one day someone claimed that they put a bomb on an airplane on Facebook. Somebody read it and called the cops. The airline company delayed the flight for 5 hours just to do a security check and found no bombs, airline companies and the passenger lost time/money. Should we punish this kind of posts?
USA
Canada
UK
Australia
What I meant is, you can accept false information about terrorists attack on airplane being a crime, but you can't accept false information that leads to large scale riot being a crime. It doesn't make sense to me.
I don't know if there are specific laws to punish people that stir up riot in the UK. But I don't think such law is uncivilized at all. It is only uncivilized IF such law don't exist atm and she is still being put into jail, since you can't punish people if the law didn't say such action is crime.
But having/making law to maintain social order and punish riot starter isn't uncivilized imo.
Someone claims a bomb is on a plane. There is an immediate claim that is being produced that requires investigation. The airline needs to investigate it, because if the bomb is there and they don't, it would be a PR disaster[and a disaster for the people..] This is direct causation.
Someone claims that the person who committed a crime is [race/religion/whatever]. Some people have a riot about [race/religion/whatever]. There are thousands or millions of other opinions flying around, the people rioting were likely already prejudiced or biased based on their own experiences and those other influences. You cannot fairly compare the 2 situations, there is no way to paint this as direct causation.
Someone claims that the person who committed a crime is [race/religion/whatever]. Some people have a riot about [race/religion/whatever]. There are thousands or millions of other opinions flying around, the people rioting were likely already prejudiced or biased based on their own experiences and those other influences. You cannot fairly compare the 2 situations, there is no way to paint this as direct causation.
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
You rarely post, yet you always seem to find my posts, how odd.
There is only one explanation for this.
There is a snitch leaking information to him!!!
Probably that snitch sent him a whatsapp message saying: “hey, Nynja is up to no good. Again”.
We must discover who is that snitch ASAP!
I would vote…. afania is the snitch!
My words are the only factual evidence in this world
Shiva.Thorny said: »
there is no way to paint this as direct causation.
Well, sure. But either way, I think whether this is civilized or not depends on if democratic process is followed anyways.
If UK has no law that punishes dinformation that started a riot, then that woman shouldn't be guilty. Otherwise it is uncivilized.
If lawmakers in the UK decided to make a law that punishes disinformation on the internet for starting a riot, and if the process of law making followed democratic process, then it is still civilized. Because the democracy allows people to vote for lawmakers to make laws.
If majority of people in a society agreed that the government can get more power to maintain social order, this is not inherently uncivilized because it is people who made the choice, not the government alone.
Afania said: »
What I meant is, you can accept false information about terrorists attack on airplane being a crime, but you can't accept false information that leads to large scale riot being a crime. It doesn't make sense to me.
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Afania said: »
What I meant is, you can accept false information about terrorists attack on airplane being a crime, but you can't accept false information that leads to large scale riot being a crime. It doesn't make sense to me.
Well yeah, it is people who posted it that's responsible, not the one who called police. I don't think I said anything about people calling police in this case is committing a crime, only the false information poster.
Afania said: »
If lawmakers in the UK decided to make a law that punishes disinformation on the internet for starting a riot, and if the process of law making followed democratic process, then it is still civilized.
One would assume the process of law involves verifying the 'disinformation on the internet started the riot', which should be impossible. Since, you know, all those other factors exist. I'm not going to go out and riot about [group] just because someone said [group] caused something. Neither is any other rational person.
It might be an infinitesimally small factor for people who are already biased against that group, but they had years to build the mindset that allowed them to reach that extreme. The twitter post ain't it.
Shiva.Thorny said: »
Afania said: »
If lawmakers in the UK decided to make a law that punishes disinformation on the internet for starting a riot, and if the process of law making followed democratic process, then it is still civilized.
One would assume the process of law involves verifying the 'disinformation on the internet started the riot', which should be impossible.
Regarding how the law should be written and how the verication system should be established, it is law maker's job anyways. Law isn't my specialty so I don't have the expertise to come up with a perfect solution. I think it is generally lawyer and prosecutor's job to provide fact check evidence on the court anyways.
I am only against the idea of using "uncivilized" as generalized statement to describe this kind of law regardless of how it's established.
Shiva.Thorny said: »
It might be an infinitesimally small factor for people who are already biased against that group, but they had years to build the mindset that allowed them to reach that extreme. The twitter post ain't it.
The fact viciouss thought it had to do about "a shooting" shows how ill-informed he truly is.
Fortunately not every judge in the UK is a *** clown and put a halt to that farce. Just Kiers personal corrupt ones are the clowns.
Should have chemically castrated them then put them in the womens prison if they truly wanted to be there. But thats just what I would do.
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She said she believed Bryson had hoped to serve the sentence in a woman's jail and have an easier time - but that this had not worked.
The worst has finally happened in this job of upgrading angular v14 app to v18.
14 to 15 was relatively easy, only needing to update a few dependencies.
But 15 to 16 is the beast. Not only i need to upgrade a few dependencies, now i actually need to refactor it because damn Angular decided to deprecate a lot of APIs.
Naturally the ones who demand refactoring are the obscure ones, with scarce mention on google
14 to 15 was relatively easy, only needing to update a few dependencies.
But 15 to 16 is the beast. Not only i need to upgrade a few dependencies, now i actually need to refactor it because damn Angular decided to deprecate a lot of APIs.
Naturally the ones who demand refactoring are the obscure ones, with scarce mention on google
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