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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-03-17 13:31:43
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It reminds of that old Neji vs RockLee debate.

Sorry bro, but natural talent with a bit of work will always beat hard work with no native talent. It's the same in all things.

I call ***. And I have Bob Ross to help drive that point home.

Yeah that quote doesn't invalidate what I said though.
I didn't say you can't learn if you have no natural talent, but you'll never be as good as the one who has it and put in minimal effort.
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By Ramyrez 2016-03-17 13:31:49
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I actually went the extra mile this year and prepared a nice flat cut corned beef brisket which is cooking right now in the crock pot. And my mom is going to make an awesome potato cabbage bake with bacon :3

I'm throwing a brisket in the stock pot and then whipping up a batch of colcannon as soon as I get home for a late dinner.

Can't wait.
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By Ragnarok.Raenil 2016-03-17 13:32:47
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Jesus Christ, people are recommending thawing chicken in the microwave and hot or warm water?!
Microwave I'm not a fan of, because it messes with the meats texture.

But the entire point of cooking ***to certain points is kill anything harmful inside of it. Chicken in particular is cooked to a relatively high point(165F) compared to other meats(145-150F) and as such anything bad would be incinerated.
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By Ramyrez 2016-03-17 13:32:55
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Ugh this chicken will never unfreeze. I took it out of the freezer too late..Imma eat dinner at 10:30 if I'm lucky at this point -.-
How large is the chicken (or cut for that matter) and do you particularly care if it's whole when you cook it?
It's just a couple of legs, I don't eat a whole chicken <.<'
I meant like, if it were a breast or something along those lines. I don't know many people who actually use whole chickens.

Unfortunately, there isn't much you can do with legs to speed things up besides the room temp water or microwave though.

Yeah, my bad. My brain automatically assumed boneless/skinless breast or thigh meat. Meat on the bone you don't wanna nuke to thaw, really.
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By Ramyrez 2016-03-17 13:34:10
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Jesus Christ, people are recommending thawing chicken in the microwave and hot or warm water?!

Put it in cool water, cool tap water will still be warmer than the temp of the chicken and thus won't encourage growth or infection of anything you don't want in or on it. You can change the cool water out as it gets cold. Chicken is fickle.

Don't be a candy ***. I've thawed chicken breast/thighs in the microwave on countless occasions and I've never had food poisoning. I'm so confident in this that I don't even fear hubris in this particular instance. Your body can handle a lot more than you think. Give it some credit.
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By Anna Ruthven 2016-03-17 13:34:14
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Ragnarok.Raenil said: »
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Jesus Christ, people are recommending thawing chicken in the microwave and hot or warm water?!
Microwave I'm not a fan of, because it messes with the meats texture.

But the entire point of cooking ***to certain points is kill anything harmful inside of it. Chicken in particular is cooked to a relatively high point(165F) compared to other meats(145-150F) and as such anything bad would be incinerated.
I just don't trust it. Having food poisoning once is enough for me.

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By Bloodrose 2016-03-17 13:35:05
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Anna Ruthven said: »
Jesus Christ, people are recommending thawing chicken in the microwave and hot or warm water?!

Put it in cool water, cool tap water will still be warmer than the temp of the chicken and thus won't encourage growth or infection of anything you don't want in or on it. You can change the cool water out as it gets cold. Chicken is fickle.
you're actually supposed to use cold running water, never use warm or hot still water.

This is the reason people get food and salmonella poisoning, and are too damn dumb to realize it. Secondly, anyone who appreciates food, not just for it's visual appeal while serving, but for it's ingredients as a whole, should never use a microwave for defrosting.

Food safety is a thing, people!
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By Artemicion 2016-03-17 13:35:17
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Yeah that quote doesn't invalidate what I said though.
I didn't say you can't learn if you have no natural talent, but you'll never be as good as the one who has it and put in minimal effort.

I added the second gif a little late; but you shouldn't think of this as a contest or competition. What matters is being content with your own pursuit and abilities, and they can always be improved upon with enough patience and dedication.
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By Ragnarok.Raenil 2016-03-17 13:35:52
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Then it was most likely undercooked and likely had absolutely nothing to do with the method of thawing.
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By Anna Ruthven 2016-03-17 13:36:06
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Ramyrez said: »
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Jesus Christ, people are recommending thawing chicken in the microwave and hot or warm water?!

Put it in cool water, cool tap water will still be warmer than the temp of the chicken and thus won't encourage growth or infection of anything you don't want in or on it. You can change the cool water out as it gets cold. Chicken is fickle.

Don't be a candy ***. I've thawed chicken breast/thighs in the microwave on countle-

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NO! YOU'RE WRONG!
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By Ramyrez 2016-03-17 13:36:11
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It's funny how many vegans I know whine about how dangerous raw meat is but they get food poisoning from improperly cleaned spinach and sprouts than anyone I ever know has from improperly handled meat at home.

Food poisoning is a weird thing anyhow. It can be very hard to pinpoint exactly what made you sick unless you know someone else who got sick around the exact same time and you shared a meal with them.

Incubation periods, yo. Very few foodborne pathogens are immediate in symptomology.
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By Ramyrez 2016-03-17 13:36:53
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Anna Ruthven said: »
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Jesus Christ, people are recommending thawing chicken in the microwave and hot or warm water?!

Put it in cool water, cool tap water will still be warmer than the temp of the chicken and thus won't encourage growth or infection of anything you don't want in or on it. You can change the cool water out as it gets cold. Chicken is fickle.

Don't be a candy ***. I've thawed chicken breast/thighs in the microwave on countle-

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NO! YOU'RE WRONG!

Fine. Enjoy dinner in six hours, you baby.
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By Sylph.Shadowlina 2016-03-17 13:37:38
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
It reminds of that old Neji vs RockLee debate.

Sorry bro, but natural talent with a bit of work will always beat hard work with no native talent. It's the same in all things.

Naruto ending spoiler.(like large portion of plot.)

Thing is tho it all regardless of skill depends on how much work you put into it. Some with natural talent who just doesn't carry on will loose to the "talentless" if they too don't put in the work.
I used to play the flute when I was younger, and I could learn songs by ear. But now I have very little talent musically. :V and I can't tell notes by ear at all.

This is kinda a silly argument. Lol.
I should jut go back to plotting myself ruling the world.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-03-17 13:37:42
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This stupid chicken will cook for at least one hour, I'm sure I'll be fine!
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By Ragnarok.Zeig 2016-03-17 13:38:22
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New character in the upcoming King of Fighters XIV (a fighting game....duh) is a reference to...Kyary Pamyu Pamyu.

The times I live in

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By Ragnarok.Raenil 2016-03-17 13:38:47
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Bloodrose said: »
This is the reason people get food and salmonella poisoning, and are too damn dumb to realize it.
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Then it was most likely undercooked and likely had absolutely nothing to do with the method of thawing.
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By Artemicion 2016-03-17 13:38:56
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If you got sick because of your methods of thawing, odds are your cooking area wasn't very sanitary to begin with, or you severely undercooked your dish.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-03-17 13:39:35
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I did say even the talented needs to put in some work.
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By Bloodrose 2016-03-17 13:39:46
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I already rule the world, the world just doesn't know or appreciate it yet.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-03-17 13:40:15
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Also how come whenever I announce I'm cooking something it always devolves into a debate about how to do it!
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-03-17 13:41:05
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
I didn't say you can't learn if you have no natural talent

I have no talent and I can't learn....

I couldn't draw a decent picture at gunpoint....

It's taken me forty seven years of practice and every ounce of concentration I can muster to write letters that other people can kind of sort of make out if they try real hard...
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By Artemicion 2016-03-17 13:41:14
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
I did say even the talented needs to put in some work.

You did. And it's also my fault for misinterpreting your articulations. But nevertheless, I think you should draw some more, and it'd be awesome to see your entries over the weeks here.
 
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By Bismarck.Misao 2016-03-17 13:41:40
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
It reminds of that old Neji vs RockLee debate.

Sorry bro, but natural talent with a bit of work will always beat hard work with no native talent. It's the same in all things.
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By Anna Ruthven 2016-03-17 13:42:29
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Actually, I got food poisoning from a pastrami sandwich, but still.
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By Sylph.Shadowlina 2016-03-17 13:42:32
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Your chicken thing is gross. Microwaved bread makes me gag as it is.
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By Bloodrose 2016-03-17 13:43:00
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Improper sanitation, and cross contamination is the number one cause of food poisoning.

I gag and refuse to eat anything if I see someone cutting meat on the same cutting board as vegetables, or with the same knife. Or without washing their hands, or, a whole host of other reasons.

But I've lived in the kitchen environment and had to pass a food safety and sanitation test before I was allowed to cook anything at school. (It was an open book test, but you'd be surprised at how many people still failed it - and we needed an 80% or higher to pass)
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By Ramyrez 2016-03-17 13:43:36
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Your chicken thing is gross. Microwaved bread makes me gag as it is.

Cooking bread in the microwave sounds gross.

Wrapping a bun in plastic wrap and nuking it for a few seconds to steam the bun is nice though. Makes it nice and soft and warm.~
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By Anna Ruthven 2016-03-17 13:43:44
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Also how come whenever I announce I'm cooking something it always devolves into a debate about how to do it!
I like to argue with people, just not to the levels of P&R arguing.
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