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just saw a blm doing 5k + in abyssea with ice trail staff just how powerful are the pucking staffs? my ice 5 only do around 2400 with 50int. boost atma, my question is how much stronger are these staffs over say jupiters staff?
Cerberus.Finalvegeta
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You would do about 2600 damage with it. The reason why they do 5k blizzard 5 is Atma of the beyond.
Beyond/Minikin/Ultimate + decent gear and lv90 ice staff = 5k+ dmg
Iceday + obis / pants boosts that even moar:D To answer about the staff, Indra +1 is twice as powerfull as a normal HQ staff.
HQ = +15% dmg Indra+1 = +30% Cerberus.Finalvegeta
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Ultimate atma sucks. Dunno why ppl even use that
Sylph.Liltrouble
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Ultimate is awesome. Question is, what do you do OUTSIDE of Abby? And Dorje is ftw as far as staffs go. Get 1 or gtfo.
Sylph.Liltrouble
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Bahamut.Dasva said: Lol dorje Sylph.Liltrouble said: Bahamut.Dasva said: Lol dorje Sylph.Liltrouble said: Bahamut.Dasva said: Lol dorje itt, race matters? Sylph.Liltrouble
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yeah, to a degree, race matters. Gotta have INT can't sacrifice int for mab
Sylph.Liltrouble said: yeah, to a degree, race matters. Gotta have INT can't sacrifice int for mab There is a 7 INT difference between a hume and a taru at 90. Race matters even less than ever. Sylph.Liltrouble said: yeah, to a degree, race matters. Gotta have INT can't sacrifice int for mab You trolling son? staves aren't 30MAB, they're 15% Elemental Damage Affinity for HQ elemental staves, and 30% for fully completed magian staves. Dorje is a joke and doesn't come close. Sylph.Liltrouble
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Quetzalcoatl.Neisan said: Sylph.Liltrouble said: yeah, to a degree, race matters. Gotta have INT can't sacrifice int for mab perhaps u shall list the gear of that blm because 5k is low, i do 4.5+ dmg with bliz4 on my sch ,
Sylph.Liltrouble said: Quetzalcoatl.Neisan said: Sylph.Liltrouble said: yeah, to a degree, race matters. Gotta have INT can't sacrifice int for mab Lakshmi.Emanuelle said: perhaps u shall list the gear of that blm because 5k is low, i do 4.5+ dmg with bliz4 on my sch , Perma weather + Ebullience? Of course you're doing 4.5k Blizz 4s on your SCH. >.> daddyrabbit4444 said: just saw a blm doing 5k + in abyssea with ice trail staff just how powerful are the pucking staffs? my ice 5 only do around 2400 with 50int. boost atma, my question is how much stronger are these staffs over say jupiters staff? Ice Staff is Varuna's.... Topic Name is Indra's (Lightning)... Yet...you only mention...Ice I didn't need magian staff to break 5k blizz5's on bluffs. The real damage boost is from Beyond, before I had it, I was only doing 3.5k Blizz5(minikin/ultimate). Of course, decent gear does help, lol. Although I wish I did have magian ice staff, because it would be pretty sexy :\
Sylph.Bodhizapha
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there is no comparison, varuna+2 gives 30mab, dorje only 25. i guess if you're lazy and only want to carry 1 staff around this would be ok...but i think most of us want to be better than an 'ok' blm, or at least i'd hope.
as for breaking 5k, thats easy. with beyond, MM and ultimate you should wonder why you dont. i had a af proc for 14,060 on a licorice mob on ice day in aby la theine. now that made my eyes go wide. Sylph.Bodhizapha said: there is no comparison, varuna+2 gives 30mab, dorje only 25. i guess if you're lazy and only want to carry 1 staff around this would be ok...but i think most of us want to be better than an 'ok' blm, or at least i'd hope. as for breaking 5k, thats easy. with beyond, MM and ultimate you should wonder why you dont. i had a af proc for 14,060 on a licorice mob on ice day in aby la theine. now that made my eyes go wide. Varuna+2 does not give +30mab, it gives +30% dmg. _Massive_ difference. Seraph.Rof
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Cerberus.Kvazz said: Varuna+2 does not give +30mab, it gives +30% dmg. _Massive_ difference. I guess, when you look the formula, X mab = +X % of damage so same thing. Seraph.Rof said: Cerberus.Kvazz said: Varuna+2 does not give +30mab, it gives +30% dmg. _Massive_ difference. I guess, when you look the formula, X mab = +X % of damage so same thing. Yeah you wish lol Now let's see, just put in my amount of mab with 150 int vs a random mob with 150 int(alot I know, int numbers dont mean anything right here)
Burst II HQ staff -> 1535 dmg Burst II Dorje -> 1512 dmg. A HQ(+1/2) magian staff is twice as potent as HQ staff. Cerberus.Wolfshadow
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Jesus the amount of ignorance concerning MAB in this thread is disturbing. MAB =/= Elemental Staves/Magian Staves Damage Bonus.
Cerberus.Wolfshadow said: Jesus the amount of ignorance concerning MAB in this thread is disturbing. MAB =/= Elemental Staves/Magian Staves Damage Bonus. Except that MAB have decreasing returns. So no, 1 mab is not the same as +1% total dmg. Cerberus.Wolfshadow
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Cerberus.Kvazz said: Cerberus.Wolfshadow said: Jesus the amount of ignorance concerning MAB in this thread is disturbing. MAB =/= Elemental Staves/Magian Staves Damage Bonus. Except that MAB have decreasing returns. So no, 1 mab is not the same as +1% total dmg. Cerberus.Kvazz said: Seraph.Rof said: Cerberus.Kvazz said: Varuna+2 does not give +30mab, it gives +30% dmg. _Massive_ difference. What he meant by that, is staves and mab increase the damage the same however due to them being on different steps of the calculation you get more out of one than you do the other. 100 *1.30(staff) = 130 100 *1.30(mab) = 130 100*1.30*1.30 = 169 raise either staff or mab by 1% and you get the same thing: 100 *1.30 *1.31 = 170 100 *1.31 *1.30 = 170 The reason why mab staves arent comparing to the staves themselves is because the mab amount that its being added to is already at a high level that the actual increase is diminishing. While the staff base is already low(0 considering you have to add the staff itself to get any %) So to even compare with 30% increase from a staff, you would need around 75-80+ MAB..... |
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