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By Bahamut.Lolserj 2011-01-10 08:54:28
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Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said:
I wonder if the shooter is part of the same club as the guy who shot john Lennon?

just killin all the wrong people.

there are the right people?
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2011-01-10 08:55:36
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Caitsith.Neonracer said:
Luz said:
Leviathan.Chaosx said:
Caitsith.Neonracer said:
Leviathan.Chaosx said:
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Hey ChoasX.. Perhaps Fidel Would be much better to have IN Alaska rather than Palin? If only Pierre Elliot Trudeau was alive, him and Fidel really got along well...
I don't know much about Canadian politics, but I think anyone else in Alaska would have been better.

Agreed. Wasn't Russia the Previous Owner of Alaska???
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Alaska was purchased from the Russian Empire on March 30, 1867, for $7.2 million ($113 million in today's dollars) at about two cents per acre ($4.74/km²). The land went through several administrative changes before becoming an organized territory on May 11, 1912, and the 49th state of the U.S. on January 3, 1959.
Just think how much we profited from that sale. :D



Canada, by right, should of had first stab at buying it. really?
They probably couldn't afford it.
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By Luz 2011-01-10 09:00:08
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Caitsith.Neonracer said:
Luz said:
Leviathan.Chaosx said:
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Caitsith.Neonracer said:
Hey ChoasX.. Perhaps Fidel Would be much better to have IN Alaska rather than Palin? If only Pierre Elliot Trudeau was alive, him and Fidel really got along well...
I don't know much about Canadian politics, but I think anyone else in Alaska would have been better.

Agreed. Wasn't Russia the Previous Owner of Alaska???
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Alaska was purchased from the Russian Empire on March 30, 1867, for $7.2 million ($113 million in today's dollars) at about two cents per acre ($4.74/km²). The land went through several administrative changes before becoming an organized territory on May 11, 1912, and the 49th state of the U.S. on January 3, 1959.
Just think how much we profited from that sale. :D



Canada, by right, should of had first stab at buying it. really?
America will sell you some land on the moon if you want :D

Just think, it's the perfect place for you Canadians. It's always cold so your ice hockey rink will stay frozen.
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By Caitsith.Neonracer 2011-01-10 12:59:29
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Luz said:
Caitsith.Neonracer said:
Luz said:
Leviathan.Chaosx said:
Caitsith.Neonracer said:
Leviathan.Chaosx said:
Caitsith.Neonracer said:
Hey ChoasX.. Perhaps Fidel Would be much better to have IN Alaska rather than Palin? If only Pierre Elliot Trudeau was alive, him and Fidel really got along well...
I don't know much about Canadian politics, but I think anyone else in Alaska would have been better.

Agreed. Wasn't Russia the Previous Owner of Alaska???
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Alaska was purchased from the Russian Empire on March 30, 1867, for $7.2 million ($113 million in today's dollars) at about two cents per acre ($4.74/km²). The land went through several administrative changes before becoming an organized territory on May 11, 1912, and the 49th state of the U.S. on January 3, 1959.
Just think how much we profited from that sale. :D



Canada, by right, should of had first stab at buying it. really?
America will sell you some land on the moon if you want :D

Just think, it's the perfect place for you Canadians. It's always cold so your ice hockey rink will stay frozen.


naw but you're right on the hockey rinks, however, how wud we be able to play you're sorry ***? LOL you guys cannot even stand -1 or even 0 degrees cmon? LOL....

Anyhow back at Alaska.. You want to sell me land on the moon?? I think I got some swampland in Bangledesh that looks inviting??

Nice try Kuz.. I see where ur going there....
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By Luz 2011-01-10 13:07:24
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:D
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Artemicion said:
Symbolism. It is a powerful thing.
Was crosshair reticules the most wise choice to make in your choice of key/legend features on a map for this cause?
Regardless of whether SP is a link or not to the assailant, the lack of responsibility taken or self moderation in her own propaganda is unsettling, especially in light of such a devastation.


I agree. Poor choice in symbols, but a far cry from calling for slaying political figures. Hopefully there will be less campaign attention paying homage to the NRA type groups. crosshairs, shooting fundraisers ect. those are in very poor taste given the unfortunate state of things now. however no politician could have guessed that this was going to happen or things would have played out differently.
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WoW! This thread is so full of /fail with all of the Leftist Paranoid CONSpiracy Theory rhetoric going around... Forefather quotes: "Those who would give up Liberty for a false sense of Security deserve neither Liberty or Security" In other words, I'd rather deal with the EXTREMELY RARE CHANCE OF BEING SHOT (more likely to be killed in an auto accident) Than to allow a Gaggle of Gestapo Goons (Liberals and their Military/Police State Control Grids) dictate every facet of my life, my childs lives etc. Or any other inconvenience for that matter before exchanging my Freedom. "The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of Patriots and Tyrants" Now if you don't understand this one, you're a lost cause...seriously. This includes all of the little Napoleons running around calling for the Police Nanny State to suckle and hold their <Too Weak> /rear. "It's good to have a r3VOLution every Generation" Simply put, without a Revolution of new ideas every generation, society becomes lackadaisical and ignorant. If you think a Revolution is all about Anarchy in the streets, Road Warrior stuff then you're totally wrong! Here is "THEIR" Revolution against "US" (the little people like you and me, aka the slave class)Well, some Slaves are definately more slave like than others. THEIR Revolution, not yours... Here is how they did it to you! Hey look it's in cartoon format and it's fun to watch /cheer! The American Dream Old Black & White classic of 1934. Enjoy! \(^_^)/ The House of Rothschild (Red Shield) 1934 Here is their plan for Humanity just in case you forgot. Welcome to your New Prison Eco Fascists (NAZI 4th Reich) calls for "Elite Warrior Leadership" aka 3rd and final Anti Christ. You Liberals are just so impatient aint ya And to think that people wonder why this young patsy did what he did? He shows all the signs of a patsy and yet you CONspiracy Theorists still think he thought it all up without the Alphabet Soup? LoL! Definition of a False Flag *awaits more Drama Llama reasons why humanity should commit slow suicide while living on a Prison Planet*

^this

Im late to the thread, but this post (whether you want to believe or not) is how we try to fight oppression in a non violent matter. Through information. But there are still those who refused to see the obvious or are too caught up with the distractions. I have been trying to infrom people who would take the time and listen for a while now. You show people evidence and they just blow it off as conspiracy.....sigh. Altough you would be wasting your time posting this in such a forum, I dont feel sorry for what happens to anyone who has been informed and dont act. Now, after exposing those who blow it off, am just tell them that we will all find out soon enough. The sad part is, that the solution is so simple. It just takes something that has never ever happened in human history.....casting aside difference and coming together.


Oh yeah....and the shooting was tragic.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2011-01-10 14:13:46
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Bismarck.Pawnskipper said:
Phyrexius said:
WoW! This thread is so full of /fail with all of the Leftist Paranoid CONSpiracy Theory rhetoric going around... Forefather quotes: "Those who would give up Liberty for a false sense of Security deserve neither Liberty or Security" In other words, I'd rather deal with the EXTREMELY RARE CHANCE OF BEING SHOT (more likely to be killed in an auto accident) Than to allow a Gaggle of Gestapo Goons (Liberals and their Military/Police State Control Grids) dictate every facet of my life, my childs lives etc. Or any other inconvenience for that matter before exchanging my Freedom. "The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of Patriots and Tyrants" Now if you don't understand this one, you're a lost cause...seriously. This includes all of the little Napoleons running around calling for the Police Nanny State to suckle and hold their <Too Weak> /rear. "It's good to have a r3VOLution every Generation" Simply put, without a Revolution of new ideas every generation, society becomes lackadaisical and ignorant. If you think a Revolution is all about Anarchy in the streets, Road Warrior stuff then you're totally wrong! Here is "THEIR" Revolution against "US" (the little people like you and me, aka the slave class)Well, some Slaves are definately more slave like than others. THEIR Revolution, not yours... Here is how they did it to you! Hey look it's in cartoon format and it's fun to watch /cheer! The American Dream Old Black & White classic of 1934. Enjoy! \(^_^)/ The House of Rothschild (Red Shield) 1934 Here is their plan for Humanity just in case you forgot. Welcome to your New Prison Eco Fascists (NAZI 4th Reich) calls for "Elite Warrior Leadership" aka 3rd and final Anti Christ. You Liberals are just so impatient aint ya And to think that people wonder why this young patsy did what he did? He shows all the signs of a patsy and yet you CONspiracy Theorists still think he thought it all up without the Alphabet Soup? LoL! Definition of a False Flag *awaits more Drama Llama reasons why humanity should commit slow suicide while living on a Prison Planet*

^this

Im late to the thread, but this post (whether you want to believe or not) is how we try to fight oppression in a non violent matter. Through information. But there are still those who refused to see the obvious or are too caught up with the distractions. I have been trying to infrom people who would take the time and listen for a while now. You show people evidence and they just blow it off as conspiracy.....sigh. Altough you would be wasting your time posting this in such a forum, I dont feel sorry for what happens to anyone who has been informed and dont act. Now, after exposing those who blow it off, am just tell them that we will all find out soon enough. The sad part is, that the solution is so simple. It just takes something that has never ever happened in human history.....casting aside difference and coming together.


Oh yeah....and the shooting was tragic.
i see what you did there with the tl;dr sir
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Youtube and blog links are always credible sources for information.
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Bismarck.Dracondria said:
Youtube and blog links are always credible sources for information.
everything is credible if you post enough text to make people not want to read it :P
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-01-10 14:17:56
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I sincerely hope Sarah Palin gives this letter five minutes of her precious cappuccino-sipping, cancer-stick-puffing time. What follows is a call to action for those of us who care—a large enough number to demand a thoughtful analysis and resolution of our problems with Palin. Unfortunately, her inaniloquent convictions neglect to take one important factor into consideration: human nature. I welcome her comments. However, she needs to realize that it is pointless to fret about the damage already caused by her nerdy taradiddles. The past cannot be changed. We must cope with the present if we hope to affect our future and remove the misunderstanding that she has created in the minds of myriad people throughout the world.

Palin makes a living out of larrikinism. I call this tactic of hers "entrepreneurial larrikinism". Palin and her functionaries have unquestionably raised entrepreneurial larrikinism to a fine art by using it to make individuals indifferent to the survival of their families.

Palin insists that Lysenkoism brings one closer to nirvana. In the long run, however, she's only fooling herself. Palin would be better off if she just admitted to herself that we must expose her cajoleries for what they really are. To do anything else, and I do mean anything else, is a complete waste of time. For the most part, her presence makes people nervous, anxious, fearful, and angry. Still, if I had to choose the most vapid specimen from her welter of indecent gabble, it would have to be her claim that she is known for her sound judgment, unerring foresight, and sagacious adaptation of means to ends.

I must admit that I've read only a small fraction of Palin's writings. (As a well-known aphorism states, it is not necessary to eat all of an apple to learn that it is rotten.) Nevertheless, I've read enough of Palin's writings to know that Palin's morally repugnant homilies provide financial support to backwards banana republics and their ethically bankrupt dictators. News of this deviousness must spread like wildfire if we are ever to eschew depraved, aberrant colonialism. I have a message for Palin. My message is that, for the good of us all, she should never spread lies, propaganda, and misinformation. She should never even try to do such a cheeky thing. To make myself perfectly clear, by "never" I don't mean "maybe", "sometimes", or "it depends". I mean only that there may be nothing we can do to prevent Palin from making good on her word to put a clog on all attempts to limit her power. When we compare this disturbing conclusion to the comforting picture purveyed by her trained seals, we experience psychological stress or "cognitive dissonance". Our only recourse is to tear down Palin's fortress of elitism.

My argument is that Palin, using every conceivable means for her purpose, is determined to seek temporary tactical alliances with the most malign buggers I've ever seen in order to concentrate all the wealth of the world into her own hands. Ridiculous? Not so. This seems so obvious, I am amazed there is even any discussion about it. She wants all of us to believe that she is a martyr for freedom and a victim of snobbism. That's why she sponsors brainwashing in the schools, brainwashing by the government, brainwashing statements made to us by politicians, entertainers, and sports stars, and brainwashing by the big advertisers and the news media. Although ordinary men and women want to find more constructive contexts in which to work toward resolving conflicts, Palin wants to usher in the rule of the Antichrist and the apocalyptic end times. This incongruity reveals that she holds onto power like the eunuch mandarins of the Forbidden City—sterile obstacles to progress who crush people to the earth and then claim the right to trample on them forever because they are prostrate.

Palin's reinterpretations of historic events leave me with several unanswered questions: Does her oversized ego demand that she convince impressionable young people that she has the mandate of Heaven to leave behind a legacy of perpetual indebtedness in developing countries? And why can't she state the facts straightforwardly without their being exaggerated, aggrandized, altered, fiddled with, dressed up, falsified, and, in short, Palin-ized? These are difficult questions to answer because Palin is a serial exaggerator. If I were to be less kind, I'd say she's a liar. Either way, surly and jaded, Palin's ebullitions resemble a dilapidated shed. Kick in the door and the whole rotten structure will collapse, proving my claim that the first response to this from Palin's attendants is perhaps that might makes right. Wrong. Just glance at the facts: Palin likes to posture as a guardian of virtue and manners. However, when it comes right down to it, what she is pushing is both sniveling and delirious.

Palin's surrogates have learned their scripts well and the rhetoric comes gushing forth with little provocation. If Palin wants to pit race against race, religion against religion, and country against country, let her wear the opprobrium of that decision. If you're not part of the solution then you're part of the problem. I suppose we could get Palin to shut up by glorifying the things that everyone else execrates. Obviously, that Palin-esque scheme is akin to throwing out the baby with the bath water. Let me propose instead that we question authority.

I have a scientist's respect for objective truth. That's why I'm telling you that Palin may unwittingly lock people who need our help into a vicious cycle of indigence and ignorance. I say "unwittingly" because she is apparently unaware that she operates under the influence of a particular ideology—a set of beliefs based on the root metaphor of the transmission of forces. Until you understand this root metaphor you won't be able to grasp why if Palin feels ridiculed by all the attention my letters are bringing her, then that's just too darn bad. Her arrogance has brought this upon herself. Why does Palin want to herald the death of intelligent discourse on college campuses? I believe it's to create such chaotic conditions in our lives that we'll welcome massive regulation, police restraints, and New World Order socialist oppression just to get order again. If you don't believe me then consider that Palin is absolutely determined to believe that granting her complete control over our lives is as important as breathing air, and she's not about to let facts or reason get in her way.

Here's some news for people who are surprised by sunrise: Palin should think for herself. In the past, it was perfectly clear to everyone with insight and without malice that writing letters like this one has earned me more hate mail from her than you would care to hear about. Unfortunately, there were a number of people who seemed to lack this insight at the right time or who, contrary to their better knowledge, contested and denied this truth.

Palin always sounds like she's reading a prepared speech. I always catch hell whenever I say something like that so let me assure you that she is not known for interpreting facts rationally or objectively. Please re-read and memorize that sentence if you still believe that Palin is a model citizen. My intention here is not just to protect innocent, little children from malignant delinquents like her but also to denounce her agendas. Palin has two imperatives. The first is to destroy our sense of safety in the places we ordinarily imagine we can flee to. The second imperative is to saddle the economy with crippling debt. At this point in the letter I had planned to tell you that she takes extreme pride in the fact that her apologists leave behind a wake of uncontrollable reaction. However, one of my colleagues pointed out that merciless tatterdemalions have an insatiable appetite for Palin's dulcet but rummy piffle. Hence, I discarded the discourse I had previously prepared and substituted the following discussion in which I argue that she is trying hard to convince a substantial number of xenophobic New Age yutzes to degrade, divide, and destroy our nation. She presumably believes that the "hundredth-monkey phenomenon" will spontaneously incite the worst kinds of wrongheaded card sharks there are to behave likewise. The reality, however, is that Palin loves generating drama and conflict. That's why she repeatedly insists that the purpose of life is self-gratification. It's also why she believes in legitimizing the fear and hatred of the privileged for the oppressed. One final point: No matter how much Sarah Palin squirms and wriggles, she will never escape the fact that her dream is to rule the world, or failing that, annihilate it.
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Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
Artemicion said:
For Palin to simply acknowledge that her crosshair poster was over the top

***, now I have to defend someone I completely hate.

Over the top? I disagree, it is really no big deal, and it is not like this is the first time a symbol like that was ever used in a setting like this.

Artemicion said:
unncessary

Yes, but she is an idiot and needs something to do in her time away from the office, the bible, and her kids who are off being promiscuous like good children.

Artemicion said:
and potentially dangerous

Yeah, it was just this cleverly hidden hit list that may or may not have been carried out on political opponents by any mentally disturbed person who understands that hidden propaganda!

Do you mean someone could have printed it out and gotten a nasty paper cut? I would agree with you in that case. No one likes nasty paper cuts.

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and potentially dangerous would be a great deal of necessary rectification.

As her to give you some oral sex too while she is at it. Perhaps she can make you a sandwich too and stroke your hair.

Rectification? What would that rectify? Absolutely nothing. Has it been taken down? Now taking it down be a form of rectification, but all in all it is just something meaningless to pick on lolPalin for.
^ this

but also just to illustrate the last point a bit more.. let us use a religious symbol. should Christians be ousted and the Bible denounced because in it there is talk of the death penalty for rape or more common, promiscuity? or how about denouncing Muslims for the Koran talking about Jihad? Neither is damming of the whole, but of the few crazies who take things out of context and have malice in their hearts. If you then take things out of context you arnt much different. Take the dang symbols in context and they are completely acceptable. Taken in hindsight they are in poor taste, but you dont have hind sight when you first make a thing.
 
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Cerberus.Pukushu said:
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
Artemicion said:
For Palin to simply acknowledge that her crosshair poster was over the top

***, now I have to defend someone I completely hate.

Over the top? I disagree, it is really no big deal, and it is not like this is the first time a symbol like that was ever used in a setting like this.

Artemicion said:
unncessary

Yes, but she is an idiot and needs something to do in her time away from the office, the bible, and her kids who are off being promiscuous like good children.

Artemicion said:
and potentially dangerous

Yeah, it was just this cleverly hidden hit list that may or may not have been carried out on political opponents by any mentally disturbed person who understands that hidden propaganda!

Do you mean someone could have printed it out and gotten a nasty paper cut? I would agree with you in that case. No one likes nasty paper cuts.

Artemicion said:
and potentially dangerous would be a great deal of necessary rectification.

As her to give you some oral sex too while she is at it. Perhaps she can make you a sandwich too and stroke your hair.

Rectification? What would that rectify? Absolutely nothing. Has it been taken down? Now taking it down be a form of rectification, but all in all it is just something meaningless to pick on lolPalin for.
^ this

but also just to illustrate the last point a bit more.. let us use a religious symbol. should Christians be ousted and the Bible denounced because in it there is talk of the death penalty for rape or more common, promiscuity? or how about denouncing Muslims for the Koran talking about Jihad? Neither is damming of the whole, but of the few crazies who take things out of context and have malice in their hearts. If you then take things out of context you arnt much different. Take the dang symbols in context and they are completely acceptable. Taken in hindsight they are in poor taste, but you dont have hind sight when you first make a thing.
Somewhere in the world your spelling of the name of their holy book offended someone. How dare you!
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Shiva.Flionheart said:


this one after this:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Bismarck.Dracondria said:
Youtube and blog links are always credible sources for information.
everything is credible if you post enough text to make people not want to read it :P


is what we call in the business "well played"
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Bismarck.Dracondria said:
Youtube and blog links are always credible sources for information.


There is just as much credible information on youtubes and unkown (non mainstream sites) as there is on the stuff you read or watch everyday. Thats also to say that there is *** on both also. But heres the kicker....since most of us blindly believe whats told, everything is *** unless its presented in high definition from one of the main broadcasting stations.
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Bismarck.Pawnskipper said:
Bismarck.Dracondria said:
Youtube and blog links are always credible sources for information.


There is just as much credible information on youtubes and unkown (non mainstream sites) as there is on the stuff you read or watch everyday. Thats also to say that there is *** on both also. But heres the kicker....since most of us blindly believe whats told, everything is ***.
should have just ended it there :P
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Bismarck.Pawnskipper said:
Bismarck.Dracondria said:
Youtube and blog links are always credible sources for information.


There is just as much credible information on youtubes and unkown (non mainstream sites) as there is on the stuff you read or watch everyday. Thats also to say that there is *** on both also. But heres the kicker....since most of us blindly believe whats told, everything is *** unless its presented in high definition from one of the main broadcasting stations.

The theme of this letter is not "The US Government's assumptions are matched in their untenability only by the arrogant fervor with which they are held." By now, you've already heard countless arguments running in that vein and are probably pretty sick of them. The theme of this letter is "The hostility and boredom The US Government is experiencing internally is quite evident externally." I assume you already know that the longer The US Government wears the mask of Stalinism, the harder it is to remove so let me begin this letter by remarking that I believe I have finally figured out what makes organizations like The US Government teach our children a version of history that is not only skewed, distorted, and wrong but dangerously so. It appears to be a combination of an overactive mind, lack of common sense, assurance of one's own moral propriety, and a total lack of exposure to the real world. Although I agree with those who feel that the only thing that differentiates The US Government from rabid protestors is that the latter are at least honest about what they are, nevertheless, I cannot agree with the subject matter and attitude that is woven into every one of The US Government's illogical indiscretions. Never mind that The US Government's innate love of frotteurism occasionally shows through its mask of anti-frotteurism. What's really important is that sometime in the future The US Government will provide destructive opportunists with an irresistible temptation to put increased disruptive powers in the hands of the worst kinds of ruthless duffers I've ever seen. Fortunately, that hasn't happened...yet. But it will obviously happen if we don't renew those institutions of civil society—like families, schools, churches, and civic groups—that reveal the constant tension between centripetal and centrifugal forces of dialogized heteroglossia resulting from The US Government's beliefs (as I would certainly not call them logically reasoned arguments).

Maybe some day, The US Government will finally stop trying to sugarcoat the past and dispense false optimism for the future. Don't hold your breath, though. Do you really think The US Government will ever learn from its mistakes? It is disgraceful that, with a wink and a smile, The US Government has signified its approval of eccentric parvenus who let advanced weaponry fall into the hands of dirty whiners. To Hell with The US Government! For a variety of reasons, some strategic, some ideological, some attitudinal, and all of them wrong, deluded ignoramuses humiliate, subjugate, and eventually eliminate everyone who wants to bring meaning, direction, and purpose into our lives. The US Government is like a broken record, using the same tired cliches about family and education and safer streets, yet it demands that we make a choice. Either we let it scrap the notion of national sovereignty or it'll stir up class hatred. This "choice" exemplifies what is commonly known as a "false dichotomy" or "the fallacy of the excluded middle" because it denies other alternatives, such as that The US Government has vowed that in the blink of an eye it'll turn positions of leadership into positions of complacency. This is hardly news; The US Government has been vowing that for months with the regularity of a metronome. What is news is that some people I know say that it is not above the law. Others argue that the few vile, irritating jerks who deny this are not only wrong, they are willfully complacent. At this point the distinction is largely academic given that I, hardheaded cynic that I am, am annoyed by the bumptious and sometimes sniffish manifestations of rebelliousness against an inherited civilization of which its cronies do not have the slightest understanding. That's the sort of statement that some people allege is impulsive but which I believe is merely a statement of fact. And it's a statement that needs to be made because its sycophants like to say, "Children don't need as much psychological attentiveness, protection, and obedience training as the treasured household pet." Such frothy eloquence neither convinces nor satisfies me. If someone wants me to believe something pernicious like that, that person will have to show me some concrete evidence. Meanwhile, I intend to show you that if you think that this is humorous or exaggerated, you're wrong.

The US Government says that it's morally obligated to burn books. That's its unvarying story, and it's a lie: an extremely censorious and bad-tempered lie. Unfortunately, it's a lie that is accepted unquestioningly, uncritically, by The US Government's loyalists. The US Government has occasionally been successful at working both sides of the political fence. Upon such points its natural character always exhibits itself most determinedly as it further strives to cause an increase in disease, tribalism, crime, and vice. When The US Government says that the world can be happy only when its little empire is given full rein, in its mind, that's supposed to end the argument. It's like it believes it has said something very profound.

We don't need to demonize The US Government; it is already a demon, and furthermore, its statements such as "Cultural tradition has never contributed a single thing to the advancement of knowledge or understanding" indicate that we're not all looking at the same set of facts. Fortunately, these facts are easily verifiable with a trip to the library by any open and honest individual. The irony is that The US Government's most disdainful values are also its most nefarious. As the French say, "Les extremes se touchent." When The US Government stated that truth is merely a social construct, I concluded that it was entirely incoherent. Now that it claims that it understands the difference between civilization and savagery, I assert that it's crossed the line into post-rationalist neo-Hegelianism. It is more than a purely historical question to ask, "How did The US Government's reign of terror start?" or even the more urgent question, "How might it end?". No, we must ask, "To what depths of depravity does The US Government need to descend before the rest of us realize we must make technical preparations for the achievement of freedom and human independence?" That is, why does it hate our country? The answer is not obvious because we could opt to sit back and let it bring ugliness and nastiness into our lives. Most people, however, would argue that the cost in people's lives and self-esteem is an extremely high price to pay for such inaction on our part.

Well, let's get our facts straight. The US Government refuses to come to terms with reality. It prefers instead to live in a fantasy world of rationalization and hallucination. There are two things we need to do right away. First, we need to give our young people the values that will inspire them to transform our culture of war and violence into a culture of peace and nonviolence. Second—and this is critical so get out your highlighter—we need to improve the lot of humankind. Once those two things are accomplished we can finally start discussing how several things The US Government has said have brought me to the boiling point. The statement of its that made the strongest impression on me, however, was something to the effect of how all it takes to solve our social woes are shotgun marriages, heavy-handed divorce laws, and a return to some mythical 1950s Shangri-la. One final point: Bestial, muddleheaded busybodies in general, and The US Government in particular, intend to sacrifice our essential liberties on the altar of political horse-trading.
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Bismarck.Pawnskipper said:
Bismarck.Dracondria said:
Youtube and blog links are always credible sources for information.


There is just as much credible information on youtubes and unkown (non mainstream sites) as there is on the stuff you read or watch everyday. Thats also to say that there is *** on both also. But heres the kicker....since most of us blindly believe whats told, everything is *** unless its presented in high definition from one of the main broadcasting stations.

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By Artemicion 2011-01-10 14:27:43
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Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
Artemicion said:
Phoenix.Darkdestroyer said:
As for crosshairs on the ad explain this agian. 1. Its to connect with the type of people who vote for her Hunters ect. 2. crosshairs are used from a rifle, the gunman used a handgun never seen crosshairs from a handgun.

I can't help but see this as grasping at straws :/
You're honestly going into firearm specifics between ones that have a scope and ones that don't? Don't you find it somewhat disturbing that the purpose of her map was to point out political opponents while using symbolism that is conducive to a weapon? Regardless of who it was made to appeal to, that's a dangerous thing to do.

Grasping? Grasping at straws? Look who is talking, I mean really.

What is so dubious about my claims spicy?
I think noticing symbols relating to guns, and the fact that there was a shooting of the same person illustrated on the poster is pretty tangible.
As opposed to saying "oh, crosshairs were used simply to appeal to hunter like people, and the shooter didn't use a weapon that had a scope."
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Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Bismarck.Pawnskipper said:
Bismarck.Dracondria said:
Youtube and blog links are always credible sources for information.
There is just as much credible information on youtubes and unkown (non mainstream sites) as there is on the stuff you read or watch everyday. Thats also to say that there is *** on both also. But heres the kicker....since most of us blindly believe whats told, everything is ***.
should have just ended it there :P


tl:dr

sum up please
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Bismarck.Pawnskipper said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Bismarck.Pawnskipper said:
Bismarck.Dracondria said:
Youtube and blog links are always credible sources for information.
There is just as much credible information on youtubes and unkown (non mainstream sites) as there is on the stuff you read or watch everyday. Thats also to say that there is *** on both also. But heres the kicker....since most of us blindly believe whats told, everything is ***.
should have just ended it there :P


tl:dr

sum up please
sum what up?
i know you can at least skim between a couple 5-7 sentence paragraphs silly :P

tbh there was no real point in the linking, but I bet you could ascertain some sort of point or grain of wisdom from it.
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WoW! This thread is so full of /fail with all of the Leftist Paranoid CONSpiracy Theory rhetoric going around... Forefather quotes: "Those who would give up Liberty for a false sense of Security deserve neither Liberty or Security" In other words, I'd rather deal with the EXTREMELY RARE CHANCE OF BEING SHOT (more likely to be killed in an auto accident) Than to allow a Gaggle of Gestapo Goons (Liberals and their Military/Police State Control Grids) dictate every facet of my life, my childs lives etc. Or any other inconvenience for that matter before exchanging my Freedom. "The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of Patriots and Tyrants" Now if you don't understand this one, you're a lost cause...seriously. This includes all of the little Napoleons running around calling for the Police Nanny State to suckle and hold their <Too Weak> /rear. "It's good to have a r3VOLution every Generation" Simply put, without a Revolution of new ideas every generation, society becomes lackadaisical and ignorant. If you think a Revolution is all about Anarchy in the streets, Road Warrior stuff then you're totally wrong! Here is "THEIR" Revolution against "US" (the little people like you and me, aka the slave class)Well, some Slaves are definately more slave like than others. THEIR Revolution, not yours... Here is how they did it to you! Hey look it's in cartoon format and it's fun to watch /cheer! The American Dream Old Black & White classic of 1934. Enjoy! \(^_^)/ The House of Rothschild (Red Shield) 1934 Here is their plan for Humanity just in case you forgot. Welcome to your New Prison Eco Fascists (NAZI 4th Reich) calls for "Elite Warrior Leadership" aka 3rd and final Anti Christ. You Liberals are just so impatient aint ya And to think that people wonder why this young patsy did what he did? He shows all the signs of a patsy and yet you CONspiracy Theorists still think he thought it all up without the Alphabet Soup? LoL! Definition of a False Flag *awaits more Drama Llama reasons why humanity should commit slow suicide while living on a Prison Planet*

^this

Im late to the thread, but this post (whether you want to believe or not) is how we try to fight oppression in a non violent matter. Through information. But there are still those who refused to see the obvious or are too caught up with the distractions. I have been trying to infrom people who would take the time and listen for a while now. You show people evidence and they just blow it off as conspiracy.....sigh. Altough you would be wasting your time posting this in such a forum, I dont feel sorry for what happens to anyone who has been informed and dont act. Now, after exposing those who blow it off, am just tell them that we will all find out soon enough. The sad part is, that the solution is so simple. It just takes something that has never ever happened in human history.....casting aside difference and coming together.


Oh yeah....and the shooting was tragic.
This is sarcasm, right?

Because most his sources aren't evidence of anything.

They all comes from the same conspiracy theorist, Alex Jones.

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Jones is an articulate, sometimes hypnotic, often just annoying conspiracy theorist -- black helicopters over our cities, Clinton's storm troopers rampaging through our streets, the Y2K computer crash used as an excuse for martial law (oh wait, that didn't happen, but the rest will).

Through his ACAC show Info Wars, his canceled KJFK radio show, and such stunts as building a chapel at the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Jones has gained notoriety. Unlike a journalist or historian, a conspiracy theorist starts out with an assumption, garners all information that supports their theory, and ignores or discredits information that disagrees with it.

Jones seems driven more by getting media attention than any ideology. There are conspiracies everywhere and the forces of evil are sweeping our country: Smart Growth, free trade, light rail, Social Security, world government.

Nefarious, usually unnamed, international conspiracies are busy controlling our lives. Jones does not offer specific political solutions (Jones' only solution actually is to encourage an ever-increasing paranoia about everything).

Source
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ignoring the useless banter in this thread, what a sad story.
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ignoring the useless banter in this thread, what a sad story.
all banter is useless, unless you are somehow healing bullet wounds or reverting time with your words. :D
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Artemicion said:
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
Artemicion said:
there simply is correlation between what happened, and Palin's propaganda.

Once again, you simply don't know that and can not prove that.

You have a *** conspiracy theorist nutjob calling you a conspiracy theorist if you missed that earlier because of this. So get off of it until you can prove it.

What proof is necessary?
The correlation is blatant.
Crosshairs pointing out Palin's political opponents.
Recent shooting of said opponent in said location of reticule.

More than enough to raise an eyebrow and a few flags at least.
That's of course not to say they are direct causes or direct links to each other, but simply are within remarkably similar territory.


Ok, ok I give up. The game is over. SP made this poster and posted it on facebook to have her consortium of 22yrd old trained assassins know which targets she had chosen. That or she used her mind control powers from Alaska on the helpless 22 yrd old in AZ to go kill her parties political rival.

So thats about how you see it right?
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Cerberus.Pukushu said:
Artemicion said:
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
Artemicion said:
there simply is correlation between what happened, and Palin's propaganda.

Once again, you simply don't know that and can not prove that.

You have a *** conspiracy theorist nutjob calling you a conspiracy theorist if you missed that earlier because of this. So get off of it until you can prove it.

What proof is necessary?
The correlation is blatant.
Crosshairs pointing out Palin's political opponents.
Recent shooting of said opponent in said location of reticule.

More than enough to raise an eyebrow and a few flags at least.
That's of course not to say they are direct causes or direct links to each other, but simply are within remarkably similar territory.


Ok, ok I give up. The game is over. SP made this poster and posted it on facebook to have her consortium of 22yrd old trained assassins know which targets she had chosen. That or she used her mind control powers from Alaska on the helpless 22 yrd old in AZ to go kill her parties political rival.

So thats about how you see it right?
mind control powers means sex right?
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By Bismarck.Pawnskipper 2011-01-10 14:33:43
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Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Bismarck.Pawnskipper said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Bismarck.Pawnskipper said:
Bismarck.Dracondria said:
Youtube and blog links are always credible sources for information.
There is just as much credible information on youtubes and unkown (non mainstream sites) as there is on the stuff you read or watch everyday. Thats also to say that there is *** on both also. But heres the kicker....since most of us blindly believe whats told, everything is ***.
should have just ended it there :P
tl:dr sum up please
sum what up? i know you can at least skim between a couple 5-7 sentence paragraphs silly :P tbh there was no real point in the linking, but I bet you could ascertain some sort of point or grain of wisdom from it.

LOL. Oh...alright...I will read. I was just being dismissive. lol Im bored anyway. Gimmie a sec. Im going to read both. Cuase im a tad interested now.
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By Artemicion 2011-01-10 14:34:49
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Cerberus.Pukushu said:

So thats about how you see it right?

Everyone seems to be convincing themselves that I am adamant about direct cause, confirmed links and other things that remain unknown.

For the last time: SP's propaganda and the tragedy stand on their own. They are isolated incidents, however, the shooting brings her poster into perspective due to the correlation of crosshairs being her symbol of choice in dictating her political opponents, and the fact that there was a shooting of one of those "targets".

Again, this is not saying the shooter followed Palin's propaganda, but rather putting into light that her rhetoric was risky and potentially dangerous, regardless of whether it was an indirect cause or not.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2011-01-10 14:35:40
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Artemicion said:
Cerberus.Pukushu said:

So thats about how you see it right?

Everyone seems to be convincing themselves that I am adamant about direct cause, confirmed links and other things that remain unknown.

For the last time: SP's propaganda and the tragedy stand on their own. They are isolated incidents, however, the shooting brings her poster into perspective due to the correlation of crosshairs being her symbol of choice in dictating her political opponents, and the fact that there was a shooting of one of those "targets".

Again, this is not saying the shooter followed Palin's propaganda, but rather putting into light that her rhetoric was risky and potentially dangerous, regardless of whether it was an indirect cause or not.
doesn't she put crosshairs on everything?
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