Haven't really touched SAM much since I got abyssea, it's been sitting at 80 for a while now, since I'm MNK main.
Was wondering what 3 Atma would be best for just an exp party setting, for max DD / Survivability.
Thanks
Atma
Atma
Max damage I'd say would be Apoc, VV and SB atmas, Apoc has RR3 and 15% triple attack, VV is 2/tick regain 50 str 10 double att, and SB atma is "Smiting Blow" atma.. which is (2h weapon equipped) TP bonus Superior (which is more than likely a full 100TP) and WS acc+ superior
Hmmm missing AO and not sure if I have SB or not will have to check. VV I do have. I'm 9/9 6/6 finally though so AO will just be a matter of time.
Thanks for input. And What drops SB?
Thanks for input. And What drops SB?
Ironclad Smiter in Altepa... its an NM that requires a drop from the local bombs (i think its called darkfire arm) and an NM drop (i believe its called tabilila mercury from the NM doll Tabilila).. smiter also drops good body seals.. like nin and sch and i believe blm.. its just like other ironclad NMs, as in swings are aoe and stun and ***..can be duoed by sch and blm both /nin if you are savy... I need apoc and VV myself lol.. when my old LS did a VV run i died at 2% ><
Another way to go about doing this is a Koki or Jinpu build.
Baying Moon
Beyond
Holy Mountain
Hell's Guardian
Ultimate
Gales
Can provide decent MAB, or Wind+, or Light+ (atk%).
Using MAB items such as Uggalepih, Novio, Moldavite, Artemis, and Hecates, should make a mean elemental weapon skill.
This will severally nerf the DOT, but not like samurai was renown for their DOT. This way you won't accidentally Ruby when you spam Jinpu or Koki.
Baying Moon
Beyond
Holy Mountain
Hell's Guardian
Ultimate
Gales
Can provide decent MAB, or Wind+, or Light+ (atk%).
Using MAB items such as Uggalepih, Novio, Moldavite, Artemis, and Hecates, should make a mean elemental weapon skill.
This will severally nerf the DOT, but not like samurai was renown for their DOT. This way you won't accidentally Ruby when you spam Jinpu or Koki.
Ah I should have SB then lol, we KI farmed for Rani and proc'd red on Smiter.
i tried the koki thing, and honestly it wasn't that great... (that thread that was made about it, HAD to be a giant troll thread with brew SS lol) my best was like 3.2k or some jazz on jinpu's and koki's and the only atma i dont have for magic dmg is hell's guardian..but i have the other best, top-end MAB atma..so them getting 3x my dmg is crazy stuff...
Ifrit.Eikechi said:
i tried the koki thing, and honestly it wasn't that great... (that thread that was made about it, HAD to be a giant troll thread with brew SS lol) my best was like 3.2k or some jazz on jinpu's and koki's and the only atma i dont have for magic dmg is hell's guardian..but i have the other best, top-end MAB atma..so them getting 3x my dmg is crazy stuff...
It really wasnt a troll :/
Edit: In fact look at the last post in the koki/jinpu thread, that is what Brew'd Koki's / Jinpu's do.
Sylph.Elgorian said:
Hmmm missing AO and not sure if I have SB or not will have to check. VV I do have. I'm 9/9 6/6 finally though so AO will just be a matter of time.
Thanks for input. And What drops SB?
Thanks for input. And What drops SB?
I think you are mistaking AO for Apoc. AO is Alpha and Omega, the 10% triple attack atma from killing proto-omega.
with TP+100 Keito+2 i like
Apocalypse/Griffon Claw/VV
Apocalypse/Griffon Claw/VV
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k not to sure bout best combos. i use fudo mainly so keep that in mind, current combos im tossing up are:
RR VV Harvester
RR VV SA
VV Apoc SA
VV SA SB
few other combos as well but they are the main ones, really can't decide which I want to use some advice or discussion be awesome, cheers.
VV = STR+50 DA+10% Regain+2
Harvester = STR+30 DA+10%
RR = DEX+50 Crit Hit Rate+30% Crit Hit DMG+30%
SA = STR+40 Attack+50
SB = TP Bonus+ Superior WS ACC+ Superior
Apoc = Triple Attack+15%
RR VV Harvester
RR VV SA
VV Apoc SA
VV SA SB
few other combos as well but they are the main ones, really can't decide which I want to use some advice or discussion be awesome, cheers.
VV = STR+50 DA+10% Regain+2
Harvester = STR+30 DA+10%
RR = DEX+50 Crit Hit Rate+30% Crit Hit DMG+30%
SA = STR+40 Attack+50
SB = TP Bonus+ Superior WS ACC+ Superior
Apoc = Triple Attack+15%
Apoc > SQ
EDIT: If you want to argue the STP for xhit plaguebringer is better for Sam than SQ is.
EDIT: If you want to argue the STP for xhit plaguebringer is better for Sam than SQ is.
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VV/Smiting Blow/AlphaOmega or Ultimate as a third are nice depending on what Weapon skills I want to use.
Quetzalcoatl.Neisan said:
Apoc > SQ
EDIT: If you want to argue the STP for xhit plaguebringer is better for Sam than SQ is.
EDIT: If you want to argue the STP for xhit plaguebringer is better for Sam than SQ is.
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Asura.Nalien said:
Quetzalcoatl.Neisan said:
Apoc > SQ
EDIT: If you want to argue the STP for xhit plaguebringer is better for Sam than SQ is.
EDIT: If you want to argue the STP for xhit plaguebringer is better for Sam than SQ is.
huh?
Asura.Nalien said:
Quetzalcoatl.Neisan said:
Apoc > SQ
EDIT: If you want to argue the STP for xhit plaguebringer is better for Sam than SQ is.
EDIT: If you want to argue the STP for xhit plaguebringer is better for Sam than SQ is.
=.=a?
Apoc is 15% Triple Attack, not double Attack o.O
he's referring to plaguebringer's double attack i'm sure
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Asura.Karbuncle said:
Asura.Nalien said:
Quetzalcoatl.Neisan said:
Apoc > SQ
EDIT: If you want to argue the STP for xhit plaguebringer is better for Sam than SQ is.
EDIT: If you want to argue the STP for xhit plaguebringer is better for Sam than SQ is.
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Apoc is 15% Triple Attack, not double Attack o.O
Yeah I was thinking wtf lol....
I'll stick to 15% TA tyvm.
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Pandemonium.Ironguy said:
he's referring to plaguebringer's double attack i'm sure
Oh Sorry, I didn't know Atmas outside of RR,GH and Apoc existed :( i play THF too much.
Asura.Karbuncle said:
i play relevant jobs in 2011 too much.
ftfy, though you need some vv listed in there too, since you've also got war
Pandemonium.Ironguy said:
Asura.Karbuncle said:
i play relevant jobs too much.
ftfy
Yes, I love THF <3
Edit: Yes, VV for WAR just didn't mention it in context to THF :P
Asura.Nalien said:
Quetzalcoatl.Neisan said:
Apoc > SQ
EDIT: If you want to argue the STP for xhit plaguebringer is better for Sam than SQ is.
EDIT: If you want to argue the STP for xhit plaguebringer is better for Sam than SQ is.
His statement here was either mis-thought out or implies that With the Atma in question he would lose his 4-hit.
He mentions "1k crits and 4-hit, Vs miniscule Double attack" In this sense he's implying that One Atma would rob him of the 4 hit, Where as Plaguebringer has Identical sTP to Scorpion Queen. Meaning he would not lose his 4-hit. So his sentence should have read "You take your miniscule DA, i'll take my 1k Crits" Since the 4-hit would have remained Unchanged
So either he was Speaking on behalf of Apocalypse and did not know it was TA not DA, Or his sentence was mistyped.
I think he messed up D:
Pandemonium.Ironguy said:
Asura.Karbuncle said:
i play relevant jobs in 2011 too much.
ftfy, though you need some vv listed in there too, since you've also got war
I see you changed that to cover yourself.
Pretty sneaky!
I EDITED IT, NO ONE SAY I DIDNT
VV/sb/griff claw depending on what i do
or VV/apoc/griff claw so i dont waste a few TP if you cant ws everytime @100tp . [tp bonus GK]
dont know if MAB atmas win VS +100tp. not sure about the jinpu mod @100/200/300tp
or VV/apoc/griff claw so i dont waste a few TP if you cant ws everytime @100tp . [tp bonus GK]
dont know if MAB atmas win VS +100tp. not sure about the jinpu mod @100/200/300tp
if you're going for straight damage, you can try apoc/alpha and omega/VV. when triple attack kicks in on your rana it can do up to 3.5k+.
in my own screwing around with atmas, ive found the best ws combo to be VV, SA, and SB for my gekko/jinpu to have consistent high numbers. for dps, i do a combo of VV RR apoc, though i see some awful triple digit ws sometimes, i really need a decent balance between ws and dps, i was thinking VV RR SA, but i not sure,
whats a good insight to have a decent balance between high crit swings, and competent/consistent (1500+) ws damage?
current tp set:
ws set:
in b4 brutal/finish masamune >_>
whats a good insight to have a decent balance between high crit swings, and competent/consistent (1500+) ws damage?
current tp set:
ws set:
in b4 brutal/finish masamune >_>
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Why use SA? Smiting Blow seems so much better than that to me. :\
On that note, I'm taking my SAM out of cryostasis for fun and have been thinking about what atmas to use. Was thinking:
RR/SB/Apoc
RR/VV/Apoc
RR/VV/SB
Opinions?
On that note, I'm taking my SAM out of cryostasis for fun and have been thinking about what atmas to use. Was thinking:
RR/SB/Apoc
RR/VV/Apoc
RR/VV/SB
Opinions?
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