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 Fenrir.Nightfyre
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-12-21 15:30:23
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Yes.
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By Lakshmi.Diaboli 2011-12-21 17:46:07
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Other than getting Anguinus Belt and D. Head to drop (like 0/10 since finishing Kannagi, -1 waiting), is there anything else besides new content that I could improve upon?

p.s. Seiryu Augment: sTP+3, Crit. Hit +3%
Byakko's Augment: sTP+3, Crit Damage +3%

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By Fenrir.Skadoosh 2011-12-21 17:48:54
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Keep trying on your Haidate! Can get AGI+6 and crit dmg+4

Also fairly certain Bersail cap is better in Abyssea.
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By Lakshmi.Diaboli 2011-12-21 17:51:45
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Yeah, this is the best I have gotten so far, ~12 attempts.
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By Ragnarok.Nemesio 2011-12-21 17:52:49
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Sell hachiryu, farm athos/koga+2 feet, buy Oce. Head (nq or +1)
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By Lakshmi.Diaboli 2011-12-21 17:55:51
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I was under the assumption that Shura Zunari Kabuto +1 with Attack/Conserve TP/WS Damage +3% augment is marginally better than Ocelemeh Headpiece/+1.

Also the fact that Shura scales with gear correct? As in your other slots get better, Shura +1 performs better (depending on augments).
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-12-21 19:14:16
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Ocelomeh is better when the DEX is relevant. Shura scales somewhat with gear but the attack and STR still depreciate. It's obviously the clear winner in Abyssea, but barring very strong augments they'll be about the same otherwise if dDEX is low. I'm currently using Ocelomeh +1 due to inventory restrictions (Ocelomeh is also my hybrid eva, Usu midcast, idle, and Blade: Shun head along with using it extensively on BLU) and crappy luck with my Shura augments.

As other improvements go, augmented SKote are worth mentioning.
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By Lakshmi.Diaboli 2011-12-21 20:01:55
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I guess I should pick up an Ocelomeh +1 then, lol, seeing as I do play my BLU and THF every now and than. Now to see if I can find one for less than 10 million gil.
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By Bahamut.Hucksterthief 2011-12-22 07:25:44
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http://www.ffxiah.com/item/10603/scopuli-nails instead of Lithe Boots
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By Odin.Sheelay 2011-12-22 07:26:46
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koga kyahan +2
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By Bahamut.Hucksterthief 2011-12-22 07:29:34
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http://www.ffxiah.com/item/10451/athoss-tabard for body outside?
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By Cerberus.Quintow 2011-12-23 17:31:59
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Purely focusing on inside Abyssea atm, ideas for what could be improved upon to make the most impact?

I see obviously could upgrade to Stormsoul Ring, Scopuli Nails, Ocelomeh Headpiece. But a few other questions.

Windbuffet belt, anyone?
What about getting a Rancor Mantle instead of the Rancor Collar is a better option?
Besides augmented Byakko's Haidate, is there anything else better than Ambusher's Hose?

Edit: RR GH AoA, always
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By Leviathan.Kincard 2011-12-25 07:57:38
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Bahamut.Hucksterthief said: »

Sources I've read tell me that it gives +5% Crit damage, so it should be an upgrade over Loki's...of course, it comes from *** VW so I wouldn't blame you if you got discouraged.
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By Kuryomi 2011-12-30 03:15:47
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i play a mithra so got over 100 base dex, and from what i see so far people seem to be focusing equaly on dex and agi. But agi is the modifier.

I just got my kannagi and would like a bit of advice. A few questions.

1) Is it better to use elemental belts and gorgets or stack more AGI/(what ever) in those slots?

2) Should i also be stacking attack also?

My Blade: Hi averages 4k in side, 2.5k out, but spikes close to 6 in and 3.5-4 out. I am currently mad stacking AGI in every slot cept elemental belt. I know there is room to improve.

i dont know how all the formulas work and what not to decide whats best to wear.

also in aby i use Apoc, RR, and GH
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By Cerberus.Ddbone 2011-12-30 08:20:17
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For neck and belt I believe that non elemental items such as rancor collar/hope torque combined with Anguinus are typically better.

As I understand it due to the 4.00 modifier the elemental belt/neck combo doesn't add alot to :Hi.

I would put some attack where you can. IMhO large amounts of attack or double attack would out weigh smaller amounts of AGI. For instance why I would say anguinus > crudelis belt for this reason.

People stack DEX outside to maintain crit rate as much as possible. Inside using RR GH combo I think you can pour on AGI.


Here is my set, things I am actively working to improve, hope torque or rancor collar on my neck, seriyu kote and byakko haidate with proper augments. This is by no means "the best" but IMO it's an easily attainable balanced starting set



DEX4 AGI4 ws dmg +2 crit dmg +2 anwig
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By Ragnarok.Morpheu 2011-12-30 08:48:14
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i see all ur equip and i dont see all time any element neck or waist for ws blade:HI why no one use it ?
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By Ragnarok.Nekonarf 2011-12-30 09:18:42
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Dynamis Bubu on DC mobs for farming currency / steps, I can get the other two ninjas Hi sets, I know Yanns was something that looked like it'd be use inside abyssea.

Xeno's was closest to resemble mine, only difference was he used the Ocelo. Headpiece, Iga Backpiece , and Lithe
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By Kuryomi 2011-12-30 23:49:04
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im gonna have to run a parser on mine with and w/o kitty pants as well as iga hands compared to kotes. I may even compare a rancor collar if i can barrow one. dont want to blow almost a mil for asomething thats not even going to get me anything.

also are kitty pants only good if they are well augmented? Do they make it better even with no augments?
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2011-12-31 00:03:21
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Kuryomi said: »
im gonna have to run a parser on mine with and w/o kitty pants as well as iga hands compared to kotes. I may even compare a rancor collar if i can barrow one. dont want to blow almost a mil for asomething thats not even going to get me anything.

also are kitty pants only good if they are well augmented? Do they make it better even with no augments?

Why do people keep trying to create data that's already out there?
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2011-12-31 00:54:42
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What about this new 70's green ugly armor?
Athos's set?

the set bonus for 2 items is 5% chance of crits
The feet are already 2nd place for best hi feet
The hands are pretty damn good too. Is that a semi good set inplace of Koga+2 and seiryu with augment?
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By Kuryomi 2011-12-31 01:42:33
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no i mean run a parser for my own sets to see what i like. I dont give a damn about what you or anyone else thinks. I ask for gear advice to see what everyone thinks, a opinion... nothing more.
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By Ragnarok.Xenophire 2011-12-31 01:47:48
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Ragnarok.Nekonarf said: »
Xeno's was closest to resemble mine, only difference was he used the Ocelo. Headpiece, Iga Backpiece , and Lithe
Of course I'd lose the parse, I'm a damn Taru. Half way through the run, we noticed that Iga wasn't a great choice for an outside set, so I switched into Atheling. Haidate are augmented with +3% Crit. DMG. On the never-ending search for AGI and Crit. *le sigh*

Another thing that was different between mine and Neko's was: her Kannagi is 90'd, mine's 85. We didn't think it'd make that much of a difference, but.

Taru's Law: Automatically lose any melee parse before it even begins. What are you doing playing a melee?

Outside set:


Koga kyahan +1 are in the works. Literally, waiting for Sunday. Have Steps waiting to +2 them.
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2011-12-31 02:20:08
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Kuryomi said: »
no i mean run a parser for my own sets to see what i like. I dont give a damn about what you or anyone else thinks. I ask for gear advice to see what everyone thinks, a opinion... nothing more.

Here before you get all defensive and emotional and cry let me bold the parts where you are asking about stuff that is out there. Also common sense.

Kuryomi said: »
dont want to blow almost a mil for asomething thats not even going to get me anything.

Yes it will get you something.. and I'm sure with your current set you won't it be capped to where it won't give you more dmg out put.

Kuryomi said: »
also are kitty pants only good if they are well augmented? Do they make it better even with no augments?

And yes... kitty pants with augments are better than no augments.. and only good cause of the dex+15 and crit hit dmg+ on them. Otherwise for anything super evasive wear your iga legs and where you won't get use out of the kitty pants.


Questions to both of those.... are already out there... and in this thread...


*edit* Again meant no harm by what I said. Take it that way if you want.
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By Xorn 2011-12-31 09:29:19
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Thoughts on these?

Kacura Leggings +1
[Feet] All Races
DEF:21 HP+25 STR+6 DEX+6 Evasion+10 Critical hit rate +2%
LV 96 MNK THF RNG NIN BLU COR DNC
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-12-31 17:16:13
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Bismarck.Rinomaru said: »
the set bonus for 2 items is 5% chance of crits
Do you have a proper source for this? The only good information I've seen suggested ~2%/piece after the first.

At 2% the only pieces worth using are the body and feet, and only if you have both (or are inside Abyssea). Otherwise, stick with Iga Ningi +2 and Koga Kyahan +2.

Xorn said: »
Thoughts on these?

Kacura Leggings +1
[Feet] All Races
DEF:21 HP+25 STR+6 DEX+6 Evasion+10 Critical hit rate +2%
LV 96 MNK THF RNG NIN BLU COR DNC
Koga is better.
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By Kuryomi 2011-12-31 22:36:31
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Xorn said: »
Thoughts on these?

Kacura Leggings +1
[Feet] All Races
DEF:21 HP+25 STR+6 DEX+6 Evasion+10 Critical hit rate +2%
LV 96 MNK THF RNG NIN BLU COR DNC



i use em cause i dont got the rare/ex pants yet. But i haven't got to compare em to haidate yet. My haidate dont got augments yet though


and as for Anookulchandra, of course with augments is better then with out. the question was are they still better to use in your opinion w/o augments. Or are they only worth wearing if augmented.

As for these things in earlyer posts.... there are almost 900 posts in this thread im so not looking through that...

here is what i have scrounged together in the few days i have had my kannagi




edit- i wear iga neck atm for increase in crit dmg
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By Shiva.Schatzie 2012-01-02 16:15:13
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i wouldnt wear them without augments, mine have agi 4 crit dmg 4, i love them. go camp sky, getting a pop is a joke.

anguinus belt is better than that soil thingy, and as for a neck, a rancor collar or hope torque. i think centaurus might do better than that agi earring too.
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By Kuryomi 2012-01-03 04:14:29
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what do i need a sky pop for? i already got my haidate years ago
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By Ragnarok.Athina 2012-01-03 08:28:45
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Kuryomi said: »
what do i need a sky pop for? i already got my haidate years ago

You make scraps out of the seal(s). You use those scraps that you get to augment your kitty pants. Consider augmenting your Seiryu's Kote as well.
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